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Oh, No, @expat, the video isn't available in my country!  But on the theme of gray, here's an obole of Charles II (842-877), of Rouen, post-865.  'CAROLVS' monogram, CRATIA D-I REX; (from 9 o'clock:) ROTVIICVS C[I]VI[S].  Right, slightly blundered legends, which also show up in Charles's lifetime issues.  The smaller denomination probably only helps that along.

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And, Yep, time for some Dead.

 

 

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Trebonianus Gallus, AD 251-253.
Roman AR antoninianus, 3.90 g, 21.4 mm, 7 h.
Branch mint (traditionally attributed to Mediolanum), 2nd emission, AD 252-253.
Obv: IMP C C VIB TREB GALLVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
Rev: PAX AETERNA, Pax standing left, holding branch and transverse scepter.
Refs: RIC 71; Cohen 76; RCV 9639, Hunter 51; ERIC II 40.

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Koinon, Thessaly

Pseudo-autonomous
41-54 AD (Time of Claudius)
AE Assarion (17.5mm, 4.18g)
Antigonos (Strategos)
O: Draped bust of Livia right; ΘEΣΣ-AΛΩN around.
R: Hekate advancing right, holding torch in each hand; monogram to right, ΣTPATHΓANTIΓON-OY around.
RPC I, 1438; BCD Thessaly II, 928
ex Frank Kovacs; ex Mark Breitsprecher

 

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Agrippa. Struck under his Grandson Caligula, 37-41 AD.
M . AGRIPPA . L . F . COS . III, head left wearing rostral crown / S-C in field flanking Neptune standing facing, head left, naked except for cloak draped behind him & over both arms, holding small dolphin in right hand & vertical trident in left.
AE As 12.62gr, 28mm. RIC 58,Cohen 3.
Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa was a Roman general, statesman and architect who was a close friend, son-in-law and lieutenant to the first Roman emperor Augustus. Agrippa is well known for his important military victories, notably the Battle of Actium in 31 BC against the forces of Mark Antony and Cleopatra. He was born in 63 BC and died in 12 BC in his villa. He was just 51. Augustus gave the eulogy at his friend's funeral and spent a month in mourning. Even though Agrippa had his own mausoleum built, as a last honor to his closest friend and companion, Augustus buried the ashes of Agrippa in his own mausoleum.

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Thasos, Thrace

after 148 BC
AR Tetradrachm (33mm, 16.86g)
O: Head of young Dionysus right, wreathed in ivy and flowers.
R: Herakles standing nude left, holding club and lion's skin; ΣΩTHPOΣ left, HPAKΛOYΣ right, ΘAΣIΩN in ex.
SNG Cop 1040; Sear 1759

Inhabited since prehistoric times, the island of Thasos is said to be the mythological home of the Sirens.
Phoenician traders occupied Thasos by the late ninth century BC, drawn by her prolific gold mines. A hundred years later Greek colonists from Paros settled on the island and prospered from Thasos’ gold and marble production, as well as her fertile vineyards. Thasian wine was renowned throughout the Mediterranean, for which they honored Dionysus on their coinage.
A brush with the Persian army under King Darius at the beginning of the fifth century caused Thasos to increase her production of war ships, and after the defeat of Xerxes in 480 BC Thasos joined the Delian League. However a dispute with Athens over mining interests on the Thracian mainland led Thasos to revolt in 465 BC, only to submit after the Athenians destroyed her ships and razed the city walls.
The island was occupied by Sparta from 404 until 393 BC, when Thasos fell to Athens, who eventually granted her independence. Thasos then came under the control of Phillip II of Macedonia around 340 BC, who immediately seized the gold mines. Thasos remained a part of the Macedonian Empire until falling under Roman rule in 197 BC.

~ Peter 

 

 

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Elizabeth I, shilling, martlet mintmark; c. 1560-1561.  (Try finding a later one in this condition, without a downpayment on a house.)

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With the reverse legend, translating 'I have made God my helper,' going back to groats of Edward III.

For no good reason, except that I was just listening to it, this calls for some old-school reggae.  I need this partly for the influence of Stax records (thank you, the southern equivalent of Motown).

 

..."You got to go and buy yourself one!"  In the day, that always made me think of yuppies.

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@expatI've never heard of these people, and am about to Wiki them.  Who knew a cover could kick That Much Stuff All Over the Block?

...Right, and the coin is cool, too.

(Edit:) And, Yikes, it was Peter Frampton.  I would never have guessed I had the software to like a Peter Frampton tune that much.  Thanks is due to Big Mountain for that.

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A couple of deniers of the seigneurie of Deols /Chateauroux.  These go from Philippe II's brief regency, following its extinction in the paternal line in 1177, and two issues of Guillaume de Chauvigny, the heir of the ensuing seigneur, by marriage; early 13th century.  Sorry, I've posted about this obsessively in the past, so I'm skimping on details.

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Obv. +REX PHILIPVS;  Rev. +DE DOLIS.

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Rev, as above; Obv. +GVILERMVS.  Note the fleurs de lis in the star and in the angles of the cross.  This happens in some feudal issues of the earlier 13th century, evoking the expansion of royal power, administrative as well as territorial, during the reign of Philippe II.

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Guillaume de Chauvigny, second type.  Essentially more along the same lines.

And some of The Roots' brilliant, Yes, All Accoustic interpretation of the legendary mixer J. Dilla.

 

 

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Type     Standard circulation coin
Year     1763
Value     4⁄3 Saxon thaler = 1 Conventionsthaler = ⅒ Cologne Mark
Currency     Thaler (1493-1805)
Composition     Silver (.833)
Weight     28.8 g
Diameter     43 mm

Single year issue, Friedrick died less than a year after becoming Imperator due to smallpox.

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In honor of the late, great Richard Roundtree, here's "Theme From Shaft," as performed live at the Academy Awards in 1971. Isaac Hayes took home the Oscar for Best Original Song.

And here is the late Isaac Hayes accepting the Award.

Like Roundtree's iconic character, John Shaft, they say this cat Probus was a bad mother.... (Shut yo' mouth!).

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Probus, AD 276-282.
Roman billon Antoninianus 3.25 g; 21.7 mm.
Ticinium mint, AD 280-82.
Obv: VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust, left, holding spear and shield.
Rev: SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent held in arms. V in left field; * in right field, TXXI in exergue.
Refs: RIC-500; Cohen 584.

 

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6 hours ago, expat said:

Type     Standard circulation coin
Year     1763
Value     4⁄3 Saxon thaler = 1 Conventionsthaler = ⅒ Cologne Mark
Currency     Thaler (1493-1805)
Composition     Silver (.833)
Weight     28.8 g
Diameter     43 mm

Single year issue, Friedrick died less than a year after becoming Imperator due to smallpox.

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Wow that's a flashback, I worked with Saxon once. Come to think of it, they still owe me 30 bucks!

~ Peter 

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On a lighter note ...

Plautilla ... meet Caracalla!

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Plautilla, AD 202-205.
Roman AR denarius, 3.40 g, 17.80 mm, 12 h.
Rome, AD 202.
Obv: PLAVTILLA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right; hair firmly waved and drawn down on neck.
Rev: CONCORDIA FELIX, Caracalla, togate, standing left, clasping right hands with Plautilla, draped, standing right.
Refs: RIC 365b; BMCRE5 418; RSC 12; RCV 7066; Hill 584, 586; CRE 433.
Notes: The British Museum incorrectly cross-references 418 to RIC 365a.

It's an old coin; I've had it since 2007..

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Fantastic coins and sweet tunes, coin-friends

Ummm, get through the intro and then => Crank it and have a beer

=> cheers

Galeria Valeria. Augusta, Æ Follis

Cyzicus mint, 4th officina

Struck circa AD 308

293(?)-311 AD

Diameter: 26 mm

Weight: 6.34 grams

Obverse: Diademed and draped bust right

Reverse: Venus standing facing, head left, lifting dress and holding apple; MKΔ

Reference: RIC VI 38

Other:  1h … EF, dark brown to black patina

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Thanks, @Alegandron, for expanding, well, my horizons, for one.

You had to remind me of how Paul Simon wrote the lyrics of 'Bridge Over Troubled Waters' under the no less immediate influence of this.

...Well, okay, a coin first.  Um.....  Well, Forget that.  There are Lots of Salian denars, c. 11th c., with architectural motifs, but nothing like the Roman coins that feature bridges.  Anyway, here's the tune.  You need one of the very last lines of this.

 

 

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8 hours ago, JeandAcre said:

You had to remind me of how Paul Simon wrote the lyrics of 'Bridge Over Troubled Waters' under the no less immediate influence of this.

 

 

Sounds more like "Loves Me Like a Rock," to me.

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Septimius Severus, AD 193-211.
Roman provincial Æ 25.0 mm, 11.27 g, 7 h.
Moesia Inferior, Nicopolis ad Istrum, Lucius Aurelius Gallus, legatus consularis, AD 201-204.
Obv: ΑVΤ CΕΠΤ• CΕVΗΡ ΠΕΡ, laureate head, right.
Rev: VΠ ΑVΡ ΓΑΛΛΟV ΝΙΚΟΠΟΛΕΙΤΩΝ / ΠΡΟC ΙCΤΡ, AIMOC across left field, mountain-god Haemus reclining right on wooded rock outcropping, resting right arm above head and cradling scepter in left arm; below, bear right, chasing leaping stag.
Refs: AMNG I 1315; Varbanov (2nd ed.) 2721; HrHJ 8.14.43.3; Moushmov 1023.

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Back in June I posted a My Bloody Valentine song in this thread.   A short time later, Hot Press magazine published a "50 Greatest Irish Albums" list and put MBV's Loveless at number 1.

According to Wikipedia - Loveless - was expected by MBV's record company to take 5 days to record, but actually took two years, finally appearing in November 1991.   Their next album appeared in 2013 and a fourth album was expected around 2017, but is still in the works - something like RIC Vol. II.2.

The main guy behind their (infamously loud live) sound is Kevin Shields - I found this interview with him - this is part 1.   "... how many Jazzmaster guitars do you have?... 10, 12, 11 or 12, there's more, there's more.... maybe 25, but 12 good ones... I need more, I do!":

So, I listened to Loveless again and it's got into my head - I hope to see them someday...

Here's a coin from a recent Elsen auction - no connection to the music.

Gens: Neria
Moneyer: Cn. Nerius
Coin: Silver Denarius
N͡ERI·Q·V͡RB - Head of Saturn, right, with harpa over shoulder
L·LEN͡T C·M͡ARC CO S - Legionary eagle; on left, standard of maniple of hastati; on right, standard of maniple of principes
Mint: Rome (49 BC)
Wt./Size/Axis: 4.03g / - / -
References:
  • RSC 1 (Neria)
  • Sydenham 937
  • Crawford 441/1
  • HCRI 2
Acquisition: Jean Elsen Online auction Auction 156 #448 16-Sep-2023

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ATB,
Aidan.

 

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ANTONINUS PIUS AR Denarius CONSECRATIO
 DIVVS ANTONINVS, bare head right / CONSECRATIO, eagle standing right on garlanded altar, head turned left. RSC 156. BMC 48. SEAR 5192.
RIC 431 (Aurelius). Rome mint, after AD 161. 3,0 g - 18,5 mm

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