JeandAcre Posted May 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) To my shame, I've yet to invite Stevex6 to the forum. Stupid me. But it was a brilliant thread. (Oh, Expletive of Choice, I guess he was another casualty of ...well, you're likely to smell where the smoke is coming from.) If you need some rules ...well, trust me (if you have to), you don't. Just, any old coin, and any old tune, with or without the pretense of a connection between the two. Given which, here's what I felt like starting with. This is the first, and easily the best, of my imitations of Ayyubiid dirhams, from Frankish /Crusader Acre. The guy who sold it to me (on ebay, back when it, like the internet in general, was actually About something) was a grad student at some very impressive school in New England. ...Or other. Accordingto folks like Metcalf and Malloy, the primary way you can distinguish the Frankish imitations from the Ayyubid originals is that the dates are always posthumous, relative to the sultans' names. And Yes, the Franks had been there long enough to be that literate in Arabic. ...Which I kind of need, for one because I'm pretty emphatically not. (As in, more emphatically than pretty.) The graduate student dated this one to an AH date corresponding to 1217 CE. Here are a couple of tunes demonstrating a comparable dynamic. First, Jelly-Roll Morton, 'Jelly Roll Blues,' recorded by the composer himself, from what has to be the best piano roll extant. Followed by a creditable reading of a typical French Baroque chaconne. See if you can tell how closely they resemble eachother, just structurally, along the lines of a series of dance-based variations. ...Morton has gotten into lots of trouble, once he died and couldn't defend himself, for allegedly overemphasizing his light-skinnededness. But even when he said (direct quote ...I think), 'all my peoples were Frenchmens,' he just might have been saying as little as, 'all my peoples were Francophones.' Followed by this chaconne: Edited May 29, 2022 by JeandAcre 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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