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Antoninus Pius. Æ. As. TIBERIS. 140-143 AD
ANTONINVS AVG. PIVS P.P. Laureate head to the right.
  Reverse: TIBERIS. S.C. In exergue: TR. POT. COS III.
-Tíber reclining to the left and placing his hand on a rudder.

8.95g 25mm. Very scarce.
C-822. RIC. 706 a-S.
Tiberinus is a figure in Roman mythology. He was the god of the Tiber River. He was added to the 3,000 rivers as the genius of the Tiber

 

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Amy would have turned 40 years old today.

Julia Domna was no stranger to loss.

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Julia Domna, AD 193 - 217.
Roman orichalcum sestertius, 19.85 g, 28.5 mm, 6 h.
Rome, AD 193-196.
Obv: IVLIA DO-MNA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: IVNO REGINA S C, Juno standing left, holding patera in extended right hand and vertical scepter in left hand; at feet, peacock standing left, head right.
Refs: RIC 840; BMCRE 487; Cohen 99; RCV 6626; Hill 151.
Notes: Some light smoothing. Ex Roma E-Sale 85, lot 2012, 17 June 2021. From the Vitangelo collection.
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Macedonian Kingdom, Reign of Perseus

171-170 BC
AR Drachm (15mm, 2.81g)
Uncertain mint in Thessaly
Hermios magistrate.
O: Head of Helios facing 3/4 right, hair loose.
R: Rose with bud on right; I-Ω to either side of stem, EPMIAΣ (magistrate) above.
Price, Larissa p. 241; SNG Keckman 795; Sear 5092

~ Peter 

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19 hours ago, Phil Anthos said:

I saw the Stranglers do this live, but I wish I could have seen this unlikely but very cool variation on Golden Brown. The original was also used in a Mrs. Butterworth pancake syrup commercial. I wonder if they knew it was about heroin?!

~ Peter 

The Stranglers wrote "Golden Brown" in 1981. The video is of the Dave Brubeck band playing Take Five with Golden Brown edited in.

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Faustina II Orichalcum Dupondius, 13.55g, 27mm. Rome 161-164 CE.
RIC 1671, Sear 5303, BMCRE 995, Cohen 201.
FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, diademed draped bust right / SALVTI AVGVSTAE, SC below, Salus seated left on a low decorative chair, feeding from a patera a serpent coiled around and raising up from altar.

 

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We need some Thelonius!

Courtesy of Apollo, the god of music!

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Gordian III, AD 238-244.
Roman Æ Sestertius, 20.01 gm, 28.2 mm, 11 h.
Rome, 5th officina. 9th emission, AD 241.
Obv: IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
Rev: PM TRP IIII COS II PP SC, Apollo seated left, holding laurel branch and resting left arm on lyre.
Refs: RIC 302; Cohen 252; Sear --; Banti 72.
 

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Phokis, Elateia. Late 4th-mid 3rd centuries BC. Æ12

Obv: Head of bull facing, fillets hanging from horns.
Rev: ΦΩ within wreath.
BCD Lokris 472.16; HGC 4, – (but cf. 1110 [Federal Coinage]).
HGC 4 omits this issue from Elateia, perhaps presuming that it was part of the main coinage produced in the Federal series (HGC 1110), since it lacks the city ethnic. However, the style of the obverse of these that BCD placed at Elateia is significantly different from the Federal coins. On the other hand, the style is identical to the obverses of the larger denomination at Elateia (BCD 417.1–4) with which BCD associated these small coins.

 

 

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Marvin at the Palladium.

Speaking of the Palladium ...

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Septimius Severus, AD 193-211.
Roman AR denarius, 3.10 g, 17.9 mm, 6 h.
Rome, AD 196.
Obv: L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP VIII, laureate head, right.
Rev: P M TR P IIII COS II P P, Minerva standing left, holding transverse spear in right hand and round shield in left hand (i.e., the Palladium).
Refs: RIC 83; BMCRE 139; Cohen 417; Hill 216; RCV --.

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Counts of Poitou /Dukes of Aquitaine.  Guillaume IX, AR denier of Toulouse, following his temporarily successful occupation of the county on dynastic pretext.  Second (and longer) comital reign, c. 1113-1119.
Obv.  Cross, ‘S’ in upper right angle.
VVIELMO COME  (‘WILELMO COME[S];’ Count Guillaume.)
Rev.  ‘P/\+’ (‘PAX;’ Peace, by way of alteration of the name ‘VGO’ (originating in issues of Hugues, Bishop of Toulouse c. 926-972: counterclockwise from top: ‘G;’ ‘II [/ ‘V’];’ ‘+ [replacing the original ‘O’]’).
+TOLOS/\ CIVI  (‘TOLOSA CIVI[TAS];’ City of Toulouse).
Pierfitte 49, Roberts 4225, RN (1935) 56, 49.  (Cf. Boudeau 710, Duplessy 1210, Poey d’Avant 3376, all with attribution to Guillaume IV, 1060-1088, of the native, paternal dynasty.)  

The reattribution is already getting too fraught, especially in the absence of references in print. 

But here's an example that remains unambiguously attributed to Guillaume IV, of the dynasty that eventually recovered the county.  You can see an intervening stage in the evolution to 'PAX' --ironically evoking the 'Peace of God,' an ecclesiastically sponsored movement, specifically aimed at warfare between feudal entities, small and great.  (Cf. Bisson, Conservation of Coinage (Oxford /Clarendon, 1979), pp. 54-5).  This still has the 'VGO' in the reverse field.  (Right, dealer's pics, dealer's hand.  In the absence of a camera --or knowing how to use it-- I'm not arguing.)

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And, Finally, we're in loud shouting distance from some music.

Guillaume IX was an early patron and practitioner of the troubadour genre.  (He has to remind me of his descendant, Henry III, whose political and military incompetence was richly complemented by his enthusiastic patronage of architecture, both secular and otherwise, and of other artistic endeavors at the high point of early Gothic.)  Here are some of Guillaume's own extant lyrics, as translated.

My companions, I am going to make a vers (sic) that is refined,
            and it will have more foolishness than sense,
            and it will all be mixed with love and joy and youth.
        Whoever does not understand it, take him for a peasant,
            whoever does not learn it deep in his heart.
        It is hard for a man to part from love that he finds to his desire.
        I have two good and noble horses for my saddle,
            they are good, adroit in combat, full of spirit,
            but I cannot keep them both, one can’t stand the other.
        If I could tame them as I wish,
            I would not want to put my equipment anywhere else,
            for I’d be better mounted than any man alive.
        One of them was the fastest of the mountain horses,
            but for a long time now it has been so fierce and shy,
            so touchy, so wild, it fights off the currycomb.
        The other was nurtured down there around Confolens,            
            and you never saw a prettier one, I know.
        I won’t get rid of that one, not for gold or silver (...).
(From Goldin, Frederick (ed. /trans.), Lyrics of the Troubadours and Trouveres (Garden City: Anchor /Doubleday, 1973), pp. 20 (for Goldin’s note about the word vers, “[a] song, of the type that later troubadours would call canso”) and 21 (for the text.)  

If you wanted some more of this, you could find it here.  https://www.midi-france.info/190401_guilhem.htm 

Right, some music.  Here's a pioneering modern interpretation of a troubadour song that I grew up with, via the original vinyl, on the Das Alte Werk label. 

(I need it that the instrument used isn't a lute, or even an oud, but a 'gitara saracena;' effectively a transition to the modern, conspicuously Spanish guitar. 

(More broadly, the Troubadour genre is reminiscent of the early phases of rock 'n' roll.  Medieval Europeans were appropriating Arabic music no less shamelessly than white Americans were appropriating rhythm and blues.  --Not to make any sweeping value judgment on the aggregate result, in either context.)

 

Which might be complemented by this.

 

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Remember the Midnight Special? Remember this melodic bit of rock & roll?

And here's an oldie -- it's been in my collection for years.

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Plautilla, AD 202-205
Roman provincial Æ 9.92 g, 26.2 mm, 8 h.
Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, Lucius Aurelius Gallus, legatus consularis, AD 202-203.
Obv: ΦΟVΛ ΠΛΑVΤΙΛΛΑ CЄΒ, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: V ΑV ΓΑΛΛΟV ΜΑΡΚΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΙΤΩΝ, Tyche standing r., holding rudder and cornucopiae.
Refs: Varbanov 1088; Hristova & Jekov (2007 a) 6.218.38.1.; H.J. Pfeiffer 137 ff.

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I wasn't impressed by the video, but I really liked this song back in 1986.I still enjoy it.

Another coin I've had for a long time.

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Nero and Claudia Octavia.
Roman provincial billon tetradrachm, 11.1 g, 25.0 mm.
Egypt, Alexandria, AD 56-57.
Obv: ΝΕΡ ΚΛΑΥ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒ ΓΕΡ ΑΥΤΟ, laureate head of Nero, right.
Rev: ΟΚΤΑΟΥΙΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ, bare-headed and draped bust of Octavia, right; L Γ before.
Refs: RPC 5202; BMC 119; SGI 657; Cologne 122; Milne 133; Emmett 127.

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Septimius Severus AR Denarius, Rome 207 AD. 20mm, 3.31gr.
RIC 207, RSC 493, BMC 531
SEVERVS PIVS AVG, laureate head right / P M TR P XV COS III P P, Africa standing right, holding out folds of drapery containing fruits, lion at feet walking right.

 

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Bumping with a jazz standard from Blossom Dearie.

And a winged goddess:

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Julia Domna AD 193-217.
Roman provincial Æ triassarion, 8.75 gm, 24.4 mm, 6 h.
Moesia Inferior, Tomis, AD 193-211.
Obv: ΙΟVΛΙΑ ΔΟΜΝΑ CЄ, bare-headed and draped bust, r.
Rev: ΜΗΤ ΠΟΝ ΤΟΜЄΩC, Nike advancing l., holding wreath and palm, retrograde Γ (=3) to left.
Refs: Varbanov 4857; AMNG 2811.

 

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