I think we need our own 'Post an Old Coin and and an Old Tune' thread

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ROMAN EMPIRE, Geta, as Caesar. AR Denarius.. Rome, AD 200-202. P SEPT GETA CAES PONT, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust right / SECVRIT IMPERII, Securitas seated left, holding globe in right hand. RIC 20b, BMCRE 240-243, RSC 183a,  Cohen 183 - SEAR RCV II (2002), #7200, page 565

 

[Phil Anthos]

Taras, Calabria

271-228 BC AR Diobol (10mm, 0.74g) O: Head of Athena right, wearing crested Attic helmet decorated with Skylla hurling stone. R: Infant Herakles, nude, strangling a serpent with each hand; monogram to left, ΛE in exergue. Vlasto 1460-61; HN Italy 1068; Cote ---; SNG France ---; McGil --- Very scarce ~ Peter

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Faustina Junior. Augusta, AD 147-175. Orichalcum Dupondius
Rome mint. Struck under Marcus Aurelius, circa AD 170-175/6.
Obv. FAUSTINA AUGUSTA. Draped bust right. Hair curls down cheek, hair in low chignon fastened with band of pearls.
Rev. JUNO standing left, holding patera and scepter; at feet to left, peacock standing left, head right. SC across fields.
 (25mm, 11.53 g.) RIC III 1647 (Aurelius)

 

[ewomack]

I recently acquired my first coin depicting Jesus. So, I guess I could consider it my own "Personal Jesus." I mean, it is mine, after all, at least for a while.

Romanus IV Diogenes AD (1068-1071); Constantinople; Æ Anonymous Follis, Class G, Obv: IC-XC to left and right of bust of Christ, nimbate, facing, right hand raised, scroll in left, all within border of large dots; Rev: MP-ΘV to left and right of Mary, nimbate, ands raised, all inside border of large dots; 26-28 mm. 10.2 gm.; Sear 1867

 

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Gaius Vibius Trebonianus Gallus. AE Sestertius, Rome, AD 251-252

IMP CAES C VIBIVS TREBONIANVS GALLVS AVG, laureate, draped bust right / PIETAS AVGG, S-C, Pietas standing facing before lit altar, raising both hands.
RIC 117a; Cohen 86; Sear 9676.
23.15g. 28x31mm

 

[JeandAcre]

Yep, another, Thank you (euphemism for 'insert expletive of choice') reposted repost: King John, the commonest issue from Dublin.  Featuring his own name, when English pennies were effectively immobilizations, perpetuating Henry II's.  Which was fun enough to sell it.

...And, with thanks to @Phil Anthos, I'm sorry (except, Oops, I Lied), We Need some more Frank Zappa.  ...As Mark Twain is alleged to have said, history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure as Hell rhymes.  ...When there are two candidates, just, please, vote for the one who is Not a career narcissist.

 

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by JeandAcre

[Roman Collector]

Faustina II, 147-175 CE.
Roman Æ sestertius, 26.73 g, 32.2 mm, 11 h.
Rome, 162-164 CE.
Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust right (Beckmann type 8 hairstyle).
Rev: IVNONI REGINAE S C, Juno standing left, holding patera and scepter, peacock at feet.
Refs: RIC 1651; BMC 921; Cohen 142; RCV 5277; MIR 19-6/10a.
Notes: Obverse die match to BMCRE 921.

[JeandAcre]

Thanks for that, @Roman Collector.  (...Find a coin, find a coin....)

Hugh Capet (987-996), with Herve, Bp. of Beauvais (987-998).  Denier of Herve's see, Beauvais.

Obv. (from 11 o'clock:) HER\EVS HVGO REX

Rev. 'KAROLVS' monogram; widely imitated and immobilized through the 10th century ...and showing it in this example.  (From 11 o'clock; dealer's pics:) BELVACVS [IVITAS.

Duplessy, Royales No. 1.

And to complement @Roman Collector's  track, I'm needing a samba.  Apologies if I've (also) posted the tune before; looked, couldn't find it.

 

 

[Alegandron]

 

England Edward I

1272-1307

AR Penny  

19mm 1.3g

Class 10c 1302-1310

Canterbury  

facing  star -  long cross  3 pellets quarters

North 1040

MAT

[Alegandron]

17 hours ago, JeandAcre said:

Thanks for that, @Roman Collector.  (...Find a coin, find a coin....)

Hugh Capet (987-996), with Herve, Bp. of Beauvais (987-998).  Denier of Herve's see, Beauvais.

Obv. (from 11 o'clock:) HER\EVS HVGO REX

Rev. 'KAROLVS' monogram; widely imitated and immobilized through the 10th century ...and showing it in this example.  (From 11 o'clock; dealer's pics:) BELVACVS [IVITAS.

Duplessy, Royales No. 1.

And to complement @Roman Collector's  track, I'm needing a samba.  Apologies if I've (also) posted the tune before; looked, couldn't find it.

 

 

Awesome coin and a SUPER Santana selection.  Thought I would toss in a tune from that time period of your Capet dude.

[JeandAcre]

Thanks, @Alegandron.  Pretty innovative take on the Zepsters!

[akeady]

Once again, I've spent the evening trapped in YouTube 🙂

It started with the Manics and Nina Hoss, but ended up with The Waterboys.

I posted this song on CoinTalk a few years back, but this is a different live version - "Long Strange Golden Road".

One of my favourite Waterboys songs since the 1980s (meaning that this is, for me, one of the best songs Mike Scott has written since the 1980s - it's fairly recent).

"She was Aphrodite, Helen, Thetis,
Eve among the satyrs
She was Venus in a v-neck sweater
She was all that ever mattered"

I suppose Venus could be wearing a V-neck sweater here...

Gens:	Considia
Moneyer:	C. Considius Nonianus
Coin:	Silver Denarius C•CONSIDI•NONIANI / S•C - Laureate and diademed bust of Venus right ERVC - Temple on summit of rocky mountain surrounded by wall with towers on each side and gate in centre
Mint:	Rome (57 BC)
Wt./Size/Axis:	3.92g / 19mm / 6h
References:	RSC 1a (Considia) Sydenham 887 Crawford 424/1
Provenances:	Ex. Bernard Poindessault (1935-2014) Collection
Acquisition:	Roma Numismatics Online Auction E-Live Auction 1 #508 25-Jul-2018

ATB,
Aidan.

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[JeandAcre]

@akeady, that was some Stuff, both for the track and the A-, Thank you, Freaking -Mazing coin.  Never have I seen a Roman Republic (they use "Democrat" as as adjective; why can't we?) coin with such an elaborate architectural motif.  Just, Wow.

At first, I was thinking about some Tom Waits, but Leonard Cohen won out.  

Marquisat de Provence.  Raymond V, Comte de Toulouse 1148-1194.  Denier of Provence.

Obv. Star and crescent.  +R. COMES

Rev. Cross of Toulouse.  (Cf. https://www.midi-france.info/19_toulouse.htm.)  DVX M  Duplessy 1604.

As the American numismatist, Alan Deshazo, has pointed out to me in other contexts, the medieval Latin, 'Dux,' didn't always correspond to a duchy.  In much broader terms, it could connote a 'march,' or frontier (cf. the modern 'marquisat').  Especially regarding this kind of technicality, Medieval Latin, never mind French, was effectively still a work in progress.

Right, and the threatened Leonard Cohen.  God rest his soul.

 

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by JeandAcre

[Phil Anthos]

I can think of some great Venus songs, but unfortunately I don't have any Venus coins.  🙁

~ Peter 

[JeandAcre]

@Phil Anthos, 'I feel your pain.'

(There has to be a French phrase for irony on a rhetorical level, which isn't so ironic on the level of the actual content.  Something vaguely along the lines of Voltaire's 'satire manque,' connoting satire, where you end up liking the protagonists anyway.)

What I run smack into, too often to be okay, are the coins that are in the collection, but without pics.  Same difference.

Edited October 9, 2023 by JeandAcre

[JeandAcre]

Just, never mind, here's a harness pendant.  I collected these for a few years on UKebay, while they still ran to being detector finds.  ...Before they became impossible to find, unless the asking prices were in the stratosphere.  I gravitated toward the degree to which, via the heraldry, they were capable of functioning as a vague equivalent of the French feudal series, but for Anglo-Norman aristocracy.  This one, like a small handful I was able to land, has Just Enough of  the tinctures to confirm the heraldry: Percys, lords of Alnwick from the early 14th century, and earls of Northumberland from the early 15th.  

Or, a lion rampant gules.  (Another edit: this one is really embarrassing.  Please make that, Or, a lion rampant azure.)  Cf. Humphery-Smith, Anglo-Norman Armory Two (Canterbury, 1984), p.64.  And this. https://percyfamilyhistory.com/?page_id=97  

The Percys are fun for their castles.  This is the one that's early enough to be relevant to my direct line of descent (ending with Henry Percy, d. 1355).  The 'shell keep' (a masonry wall on top of the motte, replacing earlier timber work), goes back to the earlier 12th century, just after the 'anarchy' of King Stephen.  But the turrets were added through the 13th (edit: Just Wrong) earlier 14th century, and the interior saw a complete renovation (for the family of the contemporary earl) in the 19th.

https://www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info/English sites/2345.html 

And in light of unfolding events elsewhere in the world, I'm needing some more late Hendrix.

 

 

Edited October 10, 2023 by JeandAcre

[Roman Collector]

It's old. I bought it decades ago from an HJB buy/bid sale.

 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Roman Collector

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Faustina II AR Denarius, 18mm, 3.27g. RIC 495a, RSC 15, BMC 1099
Rome mint 156/7 CE
FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, draped bust right / AVGVSTI PII FIL, Venus standing left holding Victory and resting hand on shield set on a helmet.

 

 

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ANTONINUS PIUS AR Denarius CONSECRATIO

 DIVVS ANTONINVS, bare head right / CONSECRATIO, eagle standing right on garlanded altar, head turned left. RSC 156. BMC 48. SEAR 5192.

RIC 431 (Aurelius). Rome mint, after AD 161. 3,0 g - 18,5 mm

[Roman Collector]

I'm in a jazz mood. How about some Coltrane and Getz?

And here's an old coin, too.

Volusian, AD 251-253.
Roman AR antoninianus, 4.00 g, 23.1 mm, 11 h.
Antiochia, 3rd officina, 3rd issue, AD 252-253.
Obv: IMP C C VIB VOLVSIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right; ••• below.
Rev: IVNO MARTIALIS, Juno seated left, holding corn-ears(?) and scepter; ••• in exergue.
Refs: RIC 218; RSC 38B; RCV --.
Ex-Richard McAlee collection.

[JeandAcre]

Thank you, @Roman Collector.  Lots.  There I was, frantically trying to catch up with some really important email, on my Thursday (vis. work), and Really needed some chillness.  (Edit:)  Listen to Jazz; It's Good For You.  To mix cliche, that's my two cents, for what they're worth.

...I like to think of Coltrane as the Beethoven to Charlie Parker's Mozart.  Yes, like most such comparisons, it's superficial as (expletive of choice).  But it does include the parallel of how Coltrane's earlier work evokes Parker, more or less the way a lot of Beethoven's does Mozart.

(Wholesale edit:) And there are funly similar lines of very direct, intergenerational influence.  Beethoven spent some time under Mozart's tutelage.  If Trane ever, similarly collaborated with Parker, in his early years, it'll be news to yours truly.  But Miles did.  And, watch this, Herbie Hancock did the same thing with Miles. 

...I'd like to find some Mingus, in honor of the bassist on your track (and a coin), but the monitor on this rapidly aging machine is having another electro-neural episode, and I have to restart the whole thing.

Edited October 14, 2023 by JeandAcre

[Roman Collector]

You wished for Mingus, @JeandAcre? Here's a great live performance at Montreux. You might argue that it's over-played, but I'd argue right back that it's so good, it needs to be overplayed. So here's "Goodby Pork Pie Hat" in honor of Lester Young. Enjoy ...

And the closest thing to a pork pie hat I can think of is the turreted crown of Tyche.

Time of Valerian I to Gallienus, AD 253-268.
Roman provincial Æ 20.1 mm, 4.49 g, 1 h.
Troas, Alexandria Troas, AD 253-268.
Obv: CO-L TROAD, turreted and draped bust of Tyche, right, with vexillium inscribed AV/CO over shoulder.
Rev: COL AVG, Horse grazing right, TRO in exergue.
Refs: Bellinger A486; SNG Copenhagen 108-113; SNG von Aulock 1466; SNG Tübingen 2533; BMC 48 var.

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Someone who was doomed to stay forever young was the Son of Claudius.

ANTONIUS FELIX AE Prutah. Roman Procurator of Judaea under Claudius. AD 54.
Obverse: NЄP(Ѡ) KΛAY KAICAP. Two oblong shields crossed, two crossed spears behind.
Reverse: Palm tree with dot and star and with L ΙΔ in field under branches either side of tree; BPIT above, K AI either side of tree across bottom.
Issue struck in the name of Nero Claudius Caesar and Britannicus.
 
RPC-4971, Sofaer 59-61. Jerusalem mint, RY 14 = 54 AD. 2,49 g - 17 mm
Volume: RPC I №: 4971
Reign: Claudius Persons: Britannicus (Caesar)
City: Jerusalem  Region: Judaea Province: Judaea
Denomination: Æ Average weight: 2.41 g. Issue: Year 14 (AD 54)
Obverse: ΒΡΙΤ ΚΑΙ, LΙΔ (in field); palm tree
Reverse: ΝƐΡW ΚΛΑΥ ΚΑΙϹΑΡ; two crossed spears and shields
Reference: Meshorer 29 Specimens: 12
Not too much known about Britannicus, son of Claudius. He was named after his Father´s exploits in Britain around 50 AD. The sudden death of Britannicus shortly before his fourteenth birthday is reported by all extant sources as being the result of poisoning on Nero's orders; as Claudius' biological son, he represented a threat to Nero's claim to the throne.

[JeandAcre]

...And this is where I could wish I had any pics of my (really solid, if you wanted to take my word for it) sestertius of Marcus Aurelius, or any of the billon (except, not any more; please read, potin) dineros and obolos of Alfonso X, 'the Wise.'  So this will have to do.

My only tessera, Byzantine, c. 11th -12th c.  (In the complete absence of references, here's the original Naumann listing.)   https://www.biddr.com/auctions/numismatiknaumann/browse?a=2619&l=2940563

And this is what gets to go along with it. 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2023 by JeandAcre

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An old coin that is fading to grey