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Antoninus Pius. Æ. As. TIBERIS. 140-143 AD
ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP, laureate head right / T R POT COS III, Tiber reclining left with elbow on rock, holding reed, arm resting on boat, TIBERIS SC below.
8.95g 25mm. scarce.
C-822. Cohen 824, RIC. 706 a-S.
Tiberinus is a figure in Roman mythology. He was the god of the Tiber River. He was added to the 3,000 rivers as the genius of the Tiber

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Here are some sisters on an old coin -- I've had this one in my collection for many years.

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Faustina II, AD 147-175.
Roman oricalchum sestertius, 22.36 gm, 33.7 mm, 12 h.
Rome, December AD 160.
Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: FECVND AVGVSTAE S C, (Faustina as) Fecunditas standing left, between two children (thought to represent Faustina III and Lucilla), holding two infants in her arms (thought to represent Fadilla and Cornificia).
Refs: RIC 1635; BMCRE 902-904; Cohen 96; Strack 1336; RCV 5273; MIR 10.

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Heraclius looks "Stupidly Happy" to have been imprinted on top of an old Anastasius I follis. This of course meant that he did defeat Phocas and became Emperor himself. Probably the ultimate "happy moment" for the 7th century.

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Heraclius (610-641), Æ Follis (30/32mm, 16,54g); Sicily, undetermined mint, 616-622; Obv: coin of Anastasius I from Constantinople countermarked by crowned and bearded bust of Heraclius facing forward wearing chlamys, with Monogram to right; Rev: SCL topped by a line within small oval, stamped below the "M" of the original coin;  MIB Km 4, Sommer 11.113. Ex Rauch 86 (2010) lot 1380, Sear 882

 

 

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5 hours ago, ewomack said:

Heraclius looks "Stupidly Happy" to have been imprinted on top of an old Anastasius I follis. This of course meant that he did defeat Phocas and became Emperor himself. Probably the ultimate "happy moment" for the 7th century.

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Heraclius (610-641), Æ Follis (30/32mm, 16,54g); Sicily, undetermined mint, 616-622; Obv: coin of Anastasius I from Constantinople countermarked by crowned and bearded bust of Heraclius facing forward wearing chlamys, with Monogram to right; Rev: SCL topped by a line within small oval, stamped below the "M" of the original coin;  MIB Km 4, Sommer 11.113. Ex Rauch 86 (2010) lot 1380, Sear 882

 

 

I was singing that song all day yesterday! 

~ Peter 

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Word and bond, @Phil Anthos, if you have to get an earworm, there's a Lot worse!

(Access self-indulgennce mode: during the 16-month pit of sheltering in place, I was waking up with Carpenters, and tv ad jingles from the same period, that I'd never wanted to hear again.  To paraphrase the old ads for the United Negro College Fund, the mind is a terrible thing.

(...But now I have to hear the XTC again.  Thanks for that, all by itself.)

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XTC brings back some memories. I saw them at Poole in 1979. I was doing my electrical engineering apprenticeship at the time and our firm was doing all the electrics for a new mill being built there. Me and a couple of others decided to go see them. What a great night

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4 hours ago, expat said:

XTC brings back some memories. I saw them at Poole in 1979. I was doing my electrical engineering apprenticeship at the time and our firm was doing all the electrics for a new mill being built there. Me and a couple of others decided to go see them. What a great night

I saw that same tour in SF. Not many of us can claim that as Andy flipped out the following year, they canceled that tour and never played live again. 🙁

One of my favorite bands ever.

~ Peter 

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4 hours ago, expat said:

XTC brings back some memories. I saw them at Poole in 1979. I was doing my electrical engineering apprenticeship at the time and our firm was doing all the electrics for a new mill being built there. Me and a couple of others decided to go see them. What a great night

18 minutes ago, Phil Anthos said:

I saw that same tour in SF. Not many of us can claim that as Andy flipped out the following year, they canceled that tour and never played live again. 🙁

One of my favorite bands ever.

~ Peter 

Wow. I never had the chance to see them live. They stopped touring before I could drive, go out to concerts on my own, etc. They didn't appear in my world until well after "Dear God" had made the rounds in the mid-late 80s. Then I bought their entire catalog. The first new album I bought of theirs was "Oranges & Lemons" way back in 1989.

I was working at a college bookstore when I heard over the store's radio that XTC was actually playing live a few miles away at a radio station studio. This was the short US radio station "acoustic tour" they did for "Oranges & Lemons." The station had a large window that apparently attracted a crowd during the show. Even if I could have taken off work and ran there, I wouldn't have made it in time. That was my only opportunity to have seen them "live." But I was able to at least hear the show "live" while pricing piles of books. This was long before everything instantly appeared on the Internet, and a few years before the WWW even existed, so I didn't hear that show again for years.

I'm still a fan and I still listen to their albums once in a while.

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Also one of my favs. Sadly, they never had the acclaim they deserved in the UK. As the New Wave genre was battling with punk for popularity in the mid 70´s, their record label advertising people kept referring them to Indie/alternative style.

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1 hour ago, expat said:

Also one of my favs. Sadly, they never had the acclaim they deserved in the UK. As the New Wave genre was battling with punk for popularity in the mid 70´s, their record label advertising people kept referring them to Indie/alternative style.

They kinda fell through the cracks, being relegated to the college radio playlists along with Caravan, Hatfield and the North and that Canterbury scene. It doesn't help when you don't tour to support your work and record companies aren't beating your door down. But they did have an opportunity to stretch out and explore, not being tied to their 'work' 365 days a year. He was a real wordsmith, just listen to the clever lyrics to Mayor of Simpleton... "I don't know how many pounds make up a ton of all the Noble Prizes that I've never won".  Brilliant!

~ Peter 

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Commodus was kicked in the eye by his horse. It was temperarily replaced with an eye of a sheep and he still lived. However, he was assassinated a bit later.

Commodus, AR Denarius, 187-188 AD. M COMM ANT P FEL AVG BRIT, laureate head right / P M TR P XIII IMP VIII COS V P P, Hercules naked, standing front, holding patera and club. RSC 534; RIC 162. 17 mm, 2,91 g

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31 minutes ago, expat said:

 

Commodus was kicked in the eye by his horse. It was temperarily replaced with an eye of a sheep and he still lived. However, he was assassinated a bit later.

Commodus, AR Denarius, 187-188 AD. M COMM ANT P FEL AVG BRIT, laureate head right / P M TR P XIII IMP VIII COS V P P, Hercules naked, standing front, holding patera and club. RSC 534; RIC 162. 17 mm, 2,91 g

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Pulled the wool over his eyes.  😇

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Nope. this needed to happen.  Here's the only one of the anonymous ducal deniers of Britanny that's easily findable, from the the thumb drive with half my life on it.  This one is from Nantes, rather than Rennes.  For both mints, Duplessy dates the issue to 'DE 1186 A 1250 ENVIRON,'  although earlier consensus ends it earlier in the 13th century. 

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Obv. +DVX BRITANE.  Rev.  +NANTIS CIVI.  (Duplessy 64.)

Given the blundering of the legends --which, from here, might have begun before any significant phase of immobilization-- some Ray Charles was called for. 

Because, thank you, even with enough wear to suggest an early issue, the legends on this one are a challenge to squint out --even in contrast to earlier ones of the same duchy, back to the reign of Conan II, a contemporary of Guillaume 'le batarde.'

 

 

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The incomparable Isaac Hayes!

They say this cat Trajan is a bad mother.... (shut your mouth!)

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Trajan, AD 98-117
Roman AR denarius; 2.95 gm, 20 mm
Rome, AD 114-117
Obv: IMP CAES NER TRAIANO OPTIMO AVG GER DAC, laureate and draped bust, right
Rev: P M TR P COS VI P P S P Q R, Mars walking right with spear and trophy
Refs: RIC 337; BMCRE 536-40; Cohen 270; RCV --; Woytek 520v; Strack 230; BN 819.

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Oh No, @Roman Collector, busted again.  When I was a kid, I used to do what I called the 'Shaft walk,' crossing one of the few four-lane streets in my home town.  Right, jay-walking, and timing the traffic, one lane at a time, like Shaft does in the memorable opening scene.

First, a coin --flimsy enough pretext, until you get into its own historical milieu.

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James I, King of Scotland 1567; King of England 1603-1635.

Shilling, Tower mint, first issue, third bust (/Spink: second, after a 'transitional' version of the first).  1603-4, replete with the cool thistle mint mark.

Obv.  IACOBVS•D:G′.ANG′.SCO′.FRA′.ET.HIB′.REX.
(James by the Grace of God King of England Scotland France and Ireland.)
Rev.  .EXVRGAT.DEVS.DISSIPENTVR.INIMICI.
(Let God arise and His enemies be scattered.)  Spink 2646.


James was an avid tobacco smoker, during the earliest phases of the English  colonial exploitation of Virginia.  Evoking other substances that, for the most part, showed up in the West a little later.  From a less memorable movie, but easily with a soundtrack on the same level, there has to be this.  I really need the percussion at the beginning.

 

 

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Trajan 109 AD Rome .
IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC PM TRP, laureate bust right, draped left shoulder / COS V PP SPQR OPTIMO PRINC, Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and leaning on column. RIC 120s, RSC 81b. Woytek 286a.
AR Denarius, 3.61gr, 19mm.

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Fortunes come good or bad. I think Trajan had it good for quite a while.

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When in Rome ...

... you'll want to see the ruins of the Temple of Vesta. 

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Julia Domna, AD 193-217.
Roman Æ as, 9.85 g, 25 mm.
Rome, AD 214.
Obv: IVLIA PIA FELIX AVG, diademed and draped bust, right.
Rev: VESTA SC, Temple of Vesta with four Vestals in scene of sacrifice; lighted altar in center.
Refs: RIC 607; BMCRE 232-33; Cohen 234; RCV 7137.

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It was actually earlier in the year when Poppaea gave birth to a daughter in 63 AD. She was already pregnant when Nero married her, but "Oh what a night"

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This thread needs some Cars!

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Julia Domna, AD 193-217.
Roman AR denarius, 3.30 g, 19 mm, 6 h.
Rome, 21st emission, AD 205.
Obv: IVLIA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: MATER AVGG, Julia Domna, as Cybele, seated left in quadriga of lions and holding branch in her right hand.
Refs: RIC 562; BMCRE 48; Cohen/RSC 117; RCV 6592; Hill 759; CRE 354.

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Julia Domna AR Denarius.
IVLIA AVGVSTA, draped bust right / SAECVLI FELICITAS, Isis, wearing polos on head, standing right, left foot on prow, holding Horus; behind, rudder. RIC 577, RSC 174, BMC 75
This variety differs to RIC 645 due to the two ends of the ship. They are of differing heights on RIC 577 as opposed same height on RIC 645.

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@Roman Collector, far as this thread needing some Cars, you get a hearty second from the house floor.  Not a band I've listened to much since vinyl days (when my big brother was into them --and they were on what used to be Top 40 radio), but just from here, that only emphasizes the point.  And here's one more.  ...How often have you done this to me already?  When you do, it's never not fun.  :<}

 

 

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Duchy of Aquitaine.  Anonymous, frequently attributed to Eleanor of Aquitaine (sort of the Cleopatra of 12th-century Europe).  With the obverse legend (oops, reverse here), +DVCISIT; cf. L. 'ducissa;' duchess.  Duplessy 1025; 'sous [her father] Guillaume X.' 

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Louis VII.  Denier of Bourges, well to the north, in the royal demesne.  Duplessy, Royales 134.  He gives no date range for the issue, but presumably, it was relatively late in the reign.

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Henri I, Duke of Aquitaine, by marriage to Eleanor /Henry II, king of England 1154-1189.  Denier of Aquitaine (as king; obv. legend: 'hENRICVS REX.')  Duplessy, Feodales 1030.

The short version is that Eleanor was married first to Louis VII; after a less than amicable divorce, she married Henri I /II.. 

And, No, Louis VII and Henri /Henry I /II were Never the best of friends.  Mostly, they were in ongoing, armed rivalry over the poltiical fate of France.  Different story.  But even Henry fell out with EIeanor, despite their shared literacy; conspicous enough, even among ruling elite of the period.  Instead of divorcing her (he needed Aquitaine), he imprisoned her.  ...As a family, the Angevins were among the most dysfunctional dynasties of the period.

Doubting anyone has the time for the whole movie, least of all in this medium.  Here are some random excerpts.

 

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(I hope:) full movie, instead if the opening scene.
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