Benefactor robinjojo Posted July 14, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) There have been wide bodies of the recent past, such as the legendary Boeing 747: But in numismatics wide bodies, coins stuck on unusually broad flans, go back much further. Yesterday a multiple dirham arrived, a remarkably wide coin for its time in the 10th century. Samanid, Nuh III b. Mansur I, AH 365-385 (976-997 AD),AR multiple dirham, no date. 45mm, 14.98 grams Going back a little further, there were the reform folles of Justinian I. Justinian I, follis, Nicomedia, regnal year 13 (539/40 AD), officina B. From Roma E-Sale 98, lot 1663. 43mm, 23.48 grams So, please post any wide flan coins or medals you wish, ancient, medieval, modern and anything in between. Thanks! Edited July 14, 2022 by robinjojo 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted July 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Yes I have similar coins that are wider than they need be. This is meant to be half a follis - at least it is in weight. Justinian Half Follis, 541-542Nicomedia. Bronze, 29mm, 11.00g. Helmeted and cuirassed bust of Justinian I facing, holding globus cruciger in his right hand and shield with his left; D N IVSTINIANVS P P AVI. A/N/N/O to left, XЧ (regnal year 15) to right, Large K; above, Christogram; below, mintmark NI (BCV 203). Edited July 14, 2022 by John Conduitt 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted July 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2022 I always thought these were very large, considering they were always shipping them around. Perhaps that's why so many ended up at the bottom of the sea. Charles II of Spain Eight Reales (Piece of Eight), 1676Potosí, Bolivia. Silver, 40mm, 17.93g. Pillars; mintmark P / 8 / assayer E (Antonio de Ergueta); PLV·SVL·TRA; POTOSI ANO, date, EL PERV (Potosí, Peru). Quarterly of lions and castles; P / 8 / E / date; CAROLUS·II·D·G·HISPAN· (S-P37b). Recovered from Consolación, sunk after striking a reef in 1681 off Santa Clara Island, Ecuador. A delay in receiving coins from the Potosi mint (which travelled by llama and mule) prevented her from sailing with the rest of the armada. When the lone ship, with a cargo of perhaps 100,000 Spanish dollars, heard pirates under the command of notorious buccaneer Bartholomew Sharp were in the area, the captain decided to ground on Santa Clara Island (‘Island of the Dead’), but struck a reef. The vessel was evacuated and intentionally set on fire to prevent it being plundered. From Daniel Sedwick. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted July 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) There are quite a few copper coins that are impractically large, in an attempt to include the correct value of metal. Catherine II the Great Five Kopeks, 1781 Ekaterinburg. Copper, 42mm, 58.68g. Crowned monogram of Ekaterina II divides date within wreath. Crowned double-headed eagle (Eagle of 1780-1787), Е М, Five Kopecks. Edge: Reticulated (Bit 632). Edited July 14, 2022 by John Conduitt 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted July 14, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 14, 2022 I've got this so-called "broad fals" that I won in a group lot for a great price. Turns out it's a pretty rare type and most examples display similar damage (bar the two punched holes). Ghaznavid Empire 403 AH (1012-1013 AD) Issued under Mahmud Bust Mint AE broad fals | 5.61 grams | 30mm wide Ref: Album#1614 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted July 14, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted July 14, 2022 Not sure if this is broad enough, but heck it is thick, too.EGYPT, ALEXANDRIA.Ptolemy IV Philopator 221-205 BC AE Drachma. (75.52g, 41mm, 12h)Obverse: Bust of Zeus Ammon rightReverse: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ, Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, cornucopiae in front, ΛΙ between legsReference: SNG Cop 199. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted July 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2022 This Denarius of Plautilla is pretty wide at just under 21mm. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted July 15, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2022 several wide-flan coins... Justinian I , Nicomedia mint. "wide" Nero denarius Antoninianus of Elagabalus Denarius of Augustus with quadriga on triumphal arch wide flan denarius of Augustus with Victory on globe, holding wreath. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted July 15, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2022 A big flan for a tiny coin Seleukid Kingdom. Ake-Ptolemaïs. Cleopatra Thea and Antiochos VIII. Dated SE 187 (126/5 BC) Obv.: Head of Artemis right, quiver and bow over shoulder Rev.: ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑΣ to right, ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ to left, bow and quiver, ΙΠΡ (date) below. Æ, 15 mm, 2,97 g Ref.: HGC 9, 1194; SC 2275. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted July 15, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) Here's an unusually wide antoninianus of Gordian III at 25 mm (they usually come in the 21/22 mm range) Gordian III, Antoninianus - Rome mint, 3th emission, 3rd phase, AD 06-239/12-239 IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, Draped, cuirassed and radiate bust of Gordian right ROMAE AETERNAE, Roma, helmeted and seated, left on shield, holding Victory and spear. 4,13 gr - 22 mm Ref : RCV # 8658, Cohen # 314, RIC # 70, Michaux # 357 Q Edited July 15, 2022 by Qcumbor typo 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted July 15, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2022 I guess all of these are wide bodied, so wide that they are incused into a bowl. Can someone educate me? I guess this was because they could be stacked? Manuel I Comnenus, 1143-1180. BI Aspron Trachy (billon, 3.20 g, 27 mm). Constantinople, circa 1167-1183. Christ, wearing tunic and colobium, seated upon throne without back, holding book of Gospels; IC-XC across fields. DOC 13; Sear 1966. Rev. Manuel to left, wearing divitision and loros, holding labarum and globus cruciger, standing facing being crowned by Virgin, wearing robes and maphorium, standing on right; M-TV above and to right. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wittwolff Posted July 16, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 16, 2022 Here my most extreme example of wide flans: Emperor Tiberius II. Constantine - Follis - Cyzikus mint - Year 5 Obv.: DM TIB CONSTANT PP AVG Rev.: ANNO V 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted July 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2022 Didn't get a chance to follow up on this fun thread until now. I love all those boardwalk flans up there! Coincidentally I just won one of those multiple dirhams (Nuh II in my case) in the recent Steve Album auction. Here it is: And here are some of my larger-than-expected Roman and Byzantines: 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted July 18, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted July 18, 2022 Amazing examples so far, gang ... very cool => here are a bunch of either big babies and/or examples with ample flans ... they are all winners as well ... enjoy! (this place is fun) 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted July 18, 2022 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted July 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Steve said: Amazing examples so far, gang ... very cool => here are a bunch of either big babies and/or examples with ample flans ... they are all winners as well ... enjoy! (this place is fun) Nice coins, Steve. I especially like your two Ptolemy bronzes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted July 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Holy moly, @Steve, that's a whole lotta winners! 🤯 (am I allowed to use your patented blue?) Edited July 18, 2022 by Severus Alexander 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted July 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) The 'widest body' in my collection is: 1644-1911 AD, QING Dynasty "50 Cash" XIAN FENG TONG BAO (1850-1861) 63.8 mm, 148gm (next to a Roosevelt Dime for comparison) Edited July 18, 2022 by Topcat7 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted July 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) Here is another, more extreme chinese cash coin, especially the reverse: Emperor: Xián Fēng Province: Yunnan Av: Xián Fēng Tōng Bǎo 咸豐通寶 Rv: Boo Yun, Dot and Crescent Year: 1854-1861 AE, 3.03g, 22.7mm Ref.: Hartill 22.1005 and this one: Emperor: Tong Zhi 同治 Bord of Revenue Obv: Tóng Zhì Zhòng Bǎo 同治重寶 Rev: Boo Chiowan, 當十, dāng shí (value10) Year 1862-74 Brass, 27.7mm, 6.18g Ref.: Hartill 22.1132 Edited July 18, 2022 by shanxi 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted July 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 18, 2022 This is the widest body I could find in my files. Sorry, I had to post it 🤣. Anyway, here's a photo of a pretty wide coin 😛. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted July 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2022 Not an overly wide flan but at 28 mm, slightly wider than the average. Antoninus Pius, AE Dupondius Rome mint AD 157 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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