CPK Posted November 4, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I'm sure it's been talked about before, but I'm looking to create my own collection gallery online somewhere. I recently started using Forum Ancient Coin's Member's Gallery, but just found out that they don't allow you to change the photos?? That is a huge turn-off for me, because I like experimenting with different presentations and taking new photos. It kind of blows my mind really that there isn't that capability on the site in 2023. So, I was wondering if anyone here could recommend a good easy-to-use online gallery where I could upload and display my coin collection photos, with lengthy written descriptions, just like FORVM's Member's Gallery. Preferably free, although I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a paid service. Thanks! Edited November 5, 2023 by CPK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 you can change I think, but you lose any comments you might have gotten. ~ Peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAg47 Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Yeah I just hate deleting the file altogether and creating a new one to just change the picture. But you know what's worse? the admin kicking me out without any notice and reasons, and no reply for my emails. I would've gone to a different gallery, but I didn't see a better alternative so I made a new account. I still catalogue my coins there till I find a new place, until then I hope they don't deregister me again! I wish Numisforums has the option of personal galleries?! @Restitutor Edited November 5, 2023 by JayAg47 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, JayAg47 said: Yeah I just hate deleting the file altogether and creating a new one to just change the picture. But you know what's worse? the admin kicking me out without any notice and reasons, and no replay for my emails. I would've gone to a different gallery, but I didn't see a better alternative so I made a new account. I still catalogue my coins there till I find a new place, until then I hope they don't deregister me again! I wish Numisforums has the option of personal galleries?! @Restitutor I tried deleting the file completely and starting over...including uploading the new photo instead of the old one. But somehow it still used the old photo! I could not find a way to get it to switch. Maybe if I changed the title or file name it would do it, but come on. I don't want to have to do that every time I want to upgrade a photo! A Numisforums personal gallery? Sign me up! How about it, @Restitutor 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 I just c&p my info into the new file and delete the old. Never had a problem, even using the same file in different galleries. Oh well. But a gallery here would be great! ~ Peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Phil Anthos said: I just c&p my info into the new file and delete the old. Never had a problem, even using the same file in different galleries. Oh well. But a gallery here would be great! ~ Peter That's weird. I wonder why I'm having issues with it? I looked up then on the Member's Gallery FAQ thread and learned that the software doesn't support changing the photos. I might try again though, and see what can be done. I'd prefer if I could keep using the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 Well yes, you do create a new file and then delete the old one. Also the the address in the file description is your coin, not the address in the browser. That will change every time someone else adds a coin. ~ Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Phil Anthos said: Well yes, you do create a new file and then delete the old one. Also the the address in the file description is your coin, not the address in the browser. That will change every time someone else adds a coin. ~ Peter So you need to create the new listing first, and then delete the old? I was doing it the other way around. What do you mean exactly about the address in the file description? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 Try CollecOnline. I use the free version, and you can even create pdf of your coins collection. https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collections/9098/ocatarinetabellatchitchix 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: Try CollecOnline. I use the free version, and you can even create pdf of your coins collection. https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collections/9098/ocatarinetabellatchitchix Thanks! I will look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, CPK said: I recently started using Forum Ancient Coin's Member's Gallery, but just found out that they don't allow you to change the photos?? That is a huge turn-off for me, because I like experimenting with different presentations and taking new photos. It kind of blows my mind really that there isn't that capability on the site in 2023. That upset me too, so I gave up putting my coins in there. You publish a beautiful coin with a great description and members comment on the coin and maybe even post useful comments about it. If I want to change the image now - I have to delete the old database file and create the coin with the new image as a new data record. The first problem with this is that a new data record always appears under the new items. In other words, every change means a new publication of the coin. But what is even worse - all comments - even the useful ones - are gone with the new data set! This is extremely annoying. 23 minutes ago, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: Try CollecOnline. I use the free version, and you can even create pdf of your coins collection. https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collections/9098/ocatarinetabellatchitchix If you don't have your own homepage / Wordpress site, I think this is the best online solution! You can customise a lot yourself, create albums and distribute your coins there. You can define your own fields. You can customise the description yourself. And you can edit everything at any time without losing the actual data record. Very useful even in the free version. And you can also contact the administrators if you have any requests or suggestions for improvement. My suggestions have always been implemented - the administrators are very committed. In my opinion - if you like CollecOnline after a while - you can also invest around 5 euros / month. I think the operators have earned their money. They do a really good job. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, CPK said: So you need to create the new listing first, and then delete the old? I was doing it the other way around. What do you mean exactly about the address in the file description? When people want to post a link from their gallery to the forum they would often open the intended file and copy the link from their browser, which doesn't necessarily take you to your coin. Instead use the link found in the file description itself, by where you see the file name, date entered, etc. I'm the Gallery moderator over there so I really should know this stuff better than I do. I'm just roadkill on the Information Superhighway I'mafraid. ~ Peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Phil Anthos said: When people want to post a link from their gallery to the forum they would often open the intended file and copy the link from their browser, which doesn't necessarily take you to your coin. Instead use the link found in the file description itself, by where you see the file name, date entered, etc. I'm the Gallery moderator over there so I really should know this stuff better than I do. I'm just roadkill on the Information Superhighway I'mafraid. ~ Peter Ah got it. I just tried again, deleted the old one completely and posted up the new one. Strangely, I noticed that the thumbnail image used the new photo, but when you clicked on the thumbnail, the entry showed the old photo. I'm afraid I don't know what to make of it. Has Forum looked into adding the capability of editing the photo image? I like how you can edit the text quickly and easily. I don't see why the photo should be any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, CPK said: I like how you can edit the text quickly and easily. I don't see why the photo should be any different. As a former database programmer, here's what I think (I don't know, of course, since I didn't program the forum DB - so it's just a guess on my part). Each record in your coin database has a unique ID. Behind this key column are any "columns" - i.e. entries for each data record. Normally, unique things such as invoice number, customer number etc. are used in databases. KD1001 - Meier - Peter - New York KD1002 - Meier - Angelika - San Francisco KD1003 - Schulz - Petra - New York ... You can now open data record KD1003 at any time and change the city as an example (because the customer has moved). But you can't just change the value in the key column (the unique ID)! If I change the value in the key column, a new value is generated in most databases - never the old value! In other words, I can't take the KD1003, change it and then save it again with the same ID. So what does this all have to do with the pictures? The way I see it - an ID is generated from your image. In other words, the image automatically gets an ID. The image is the ID for the key column! And that's why you won't be able to easily change the image - because the image is not just an image, but also the unique ID for the individual data record! It would be different if every new coin there was a new data record with a continuous ID (Coin1, Coin2, Coin3, Coin4...) and the image was just a content of the data record (like the other information that you change without having to completely recreate the data set). But as I said - it looks like the actual image is the ID. And then this inevitably means that changes to the image require a new data set... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 5, 2023 Yes, CollecOnline is a great resource for cataloging your collection. I use the "classic" version at 5€ a month, allowing for several hundreds entries, up to 5 pictures per item : https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collections/258/potator-ii Q 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrefn Posted November 5, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 5, 2023 @JayAg47, I like your suggestion of individual galleries here. I was playing with the Gallery feature here just a few days ago, and posted 4 trays of coins more or less as an experiment. I wasn’t sure if there were a way to develop a gallery of one’s own, but it seems that capability does not exist. The Gallery feature seems underutilized. I am not knowledgeable about the costs of hosting information, but a modest charge to host a gallery of one’s own collection would be reasonable in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Atherton Posted November 6, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 6, 2023 I love Forvm's galleries and have had mine up since 2004! However, I totally agree that not being able to change the picture is frustrating!! It's the gallery's one major drawback. I just learned to accept it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 6, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, David Atherton said: I love Forvm's galleries and have had mine up since 2004! However, I totally agree that not being able to change the picture is frustrating!! It's the gallery's one major drawback. I just learned to accept it. Maybe I just need to do the same...🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Atherton Posted November 6, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, CPK said: Maybe I just need to do the same...🤷♂️ You'll get more like-minded traffic in the forvm galleries than anywhere else. Plus, deleting an entry and reloading another photo with a different file name is indeed a cumbersome work-around, but at least it's an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted November 6, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 6:59 PM, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: Try CollecOnline. I use the free version, and you can even create pdf of your coins collection. https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collections/9098/ocatarinetabellatchitchix Excellent call out! I've recently begun using this excellent resource and the PDFs are Dope! https://www.colleconline.com/en/collection-items/20002/ancient-to-greek-macedonian-shield-coins 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restitutor Posted November 6, 2023 · Administrator Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 8:20 PM, JayAg47 said: Yeah I just hate deleting the file altogether and creating a new one to just change the picture. But you know what's worse? the admin kicking me out without any notice and reasons, and no reply for my emails. I would've gone to a different gallery, but I didn't see a better alternative so I made a new account. I still catalogue my coins there till I find a new place, until then I hope they don't deregister me again! I wish Numisforums has the option of personal galleries?! @Restitutor Will look into this 😃 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Simon Posted November 6, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 6, 2023 I have had a forum gallery since the early years, it is actually the 26th gallery created there. I stopped updating it in 2006 and created a new one a few years later. The old gallery I find interesting because it shows how far my collection has come, it also had comments from members we had lost that I did not have the heart to delete. Last night when double checking for more examples of a coin I was writing on, the old gallery reminded me I had one I had not found. ( I found it.) As for a new online venue, I don't know. If one is created, I suggest a few mandatory items be added, some of these were things lacking in both Forum and Labrum (Byzantine catalog). Catalog number, size, weight, and a search capability. That is one of the frustrating things on Forum, not being able to find other examples of that type because it is not in the searchable data. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted November 6, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 6, 2023 I have had one on Forvm for many years. It currently contains 3879 images. I think that I have gotten used to the quirks and limitations over the years. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted November 6, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2023 I use Tantalus - it's far from perfect and has bugs, but I've used it for a long time. Tantalus I'd like: Better catalogue entries and ability to sort by catalogue entry (though you can make galleries and arrange coins, so that is possible to some extent) Better search Longer fields for the like of "Moneyer", as right now it doesn't crop names when they're too long - instead, the entry fails and you've got to enter the coin again Fix the Export feature! And that's about it - Ras has included most or all the fields of use. There are forums there, but the last post was in 2017... ATB, Aidan. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Atherton Posted November 7, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, maridvnvm said: I have had one on Forvm for many years. It currently contains 3879 images. I think that I have gotten used to the quirks and limitations over the years. Martin, your gallery was one I used as a template for my own. It's been a specialist inspiration for many years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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