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Thanks! I would love to read it if anyone has it. I would be very interested to read about the one with a Seleucid anchor and the reasoning behind that? I have one with a mouse somewhere. I'll add it if I can find pics.

Another stunner @Spargrodan! Very nice toning as well. Here are a few shield coins of the besieger (look to the left bushel of the helmet for the hidden iconography, crescent swords, lagobolon, stars, grapes, axes, etc):

It's always a bit awkward when you have to correct a friend, especially in an area that they specialize in. @kirispupis I thought you knew and I was gonna sponsor you and invite you to the next meeting...

Way to go on the saweet new Nero! Here's my latest: Nero (AD 54-68). Æas (10.59 gm). Lugdunum, AD 67. IMP NERO CAESAR AVG P MAX TR PPP, bare head of Nero right, globe at point / S - C, Victory flying left holding in both hands shield inscribed SPQR. RIC 544. BMCRE 387.

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Shhhh, we don't want too many people knowing how cool these are...I mean lame. Herakles is total lame sauce. Shhhhh. Excellent coin BTW. And sorry for the delay. It didn't tag me despite you putting the @ next to my name. Caledonian and Erymanthian piggies: And for fun, here is a recent ebay purchase with all of the labors. The first Pic is the obverse of these:

MELDES, MELDI (Meaux region, Northern Gaul)(1st century BCE, around 60-40 BCE) EPENOS, CELTIC IMITATIONS OF MAGNA GRAECIA, AE, 16.6mm, 2.8g. Obv: Male head facing left, “EPENOS” to left, long, curly hair. Reverse legend: EPHNOS. Reverse description: Horse galloping to the right, wavy tail, surmounted by a facing bird/winged rider(?) with outstretched wings, a ringlet pointed below; legend under the horse globule surmounted by a crescent. No. in reference works: LT.7617 - DT.587 - BN.7616-7630 - RIG.163 - Sch/GB.512 Unearthed 2023 Burgundy region of France. Purchased from Normand-tik. The bird which surmounts the horse may be a distortion of a winged rider, present for example on certain Gallic silver and bronze coins. The attribution of this coinage is confirmed to the Meldes despite a very important distribution map on the territories of the Suessions and the Bellovaques. These coins were first reported in Meaux with ROVECA epigraph coins. B. Fischer proposes a ligature between an I and the P; which would give a legend EIPENOS, EPIENOS or even EPLENOS; she opts, in view of various examples of epigraphies, for the legend EPIENOS. History: The Meldes are only mentioned once in Caesar's work. This small people lived between the Seine and the Marne in the Brie plain with Meaux as its capital. The Meldes emancipated themselves late from the tutelage of the Suessions and the Remes at the time of the Gallic War. Having become independent in 57 BC, the Meldes chose to ally themselves with the Romans. Caesar had sixty ships built among the Meldes, in 55 BC, for the expedition to Brittany. Caesar (BG. V, 5). Next: a coin that you like that most others won't

Way to go! Great minds think alike or fools never differing 😉 either way we both have a very important coin with a RAD reverse (Your club above the gnawing pup is a beauty as well). In regards to historical importance I think you've got to put Alexander l (that meadizing SOB) up pretty high. Him playing friendly with the Persians might look bad in hind sight, but it kept him in charge, Makedon on the map, and makes for a great story ark with his namesake and great great Great grandson coming along to make up for it, and then some, by conquering ALL! Amyntas lll also brought a lot to the table. Not just him being Al the thirds grandpa, Philips dad and such. But he also taught Philip ll the importance of diplomacy and gave him the training that he would need to unify and conqueror Greece by sending him to Illyria and Thebes. Philip ll utilizing these lessons would lead to one of the greatest quotes of all time: Last, and most important, for both history and numismatics, the grandaddy of all Argeads, the original man's man (turned into a god), HERAKLES! Right up there with Zeus, Nike and Athena the late addition to mount Olympus may be on more ancients than any of them! I was gonna do a thread about these, but they're modern and now is a fine spot to show off my $37 ebay find. 12 coins, each, featuring a labor:

If the use of the words, to "CAST" doubt, is intended, great pun. And if not, still worth a mention

It was with a bit of irony and luck that I was able to win this very rare type celebrating the building of Carthage on arch enemy and ultimate destroyer, Rome's supposed 2777 birthday!? ★ The Building of Carthage ★ PHOENICIA. Tyre. Elagabalus, 218-222. Tetrassarion (Bronze, 26 mm, 13.55 g, 11 h). IMP CAES M AV ANTONINVS AVG Laureate and cuirassed bust of Elagabalus to right, seen from rear. Rev. TVRIORVM ΔΕΙΔΩ The building of Carthage: Dido standing, left, wearing peplos, holding small sceptre in left hand and torch in right, surveying construction, in front of city gate flanked by two towers; on top and below, mason above gate, with pick-axe digging before gate, above, murex shell in upper central field, palm tree to right of Dido. Rouvier 2375–6. RPC VI 8613 (temporary). Very Rare and with a most interesting mythological scene on the reverse. Well centered and with nice details. Nearly very fine. Dido was the, possibly mythical, first queen and founder of Carthage. She supposedly founded it in 814 BCE (making Carthage older than Rome itself, as Rome was 753 BCE). Unfortunately most of what we know of her is found in Virgil's Aeneid, which was written well after Rome's total destruction of Carthage. Though the story of Romans sowing the earth with salt is made up, after the needless third war against Carthage they did raise the city to the ground. Carthage made some amazing coins and who knows the art and history that we lost with its destruction. Here are a few coins from there before it's destruction: Carthage, billon dishekel (8.19g) SNG Cop. 351; Ex-Forum 73094.aVF, scratches ZEUGITANA Carthage Late fourth–early third century BC. Æ 19.3 (6.69 gm). Palm tree / horse head right. SNG Copenhagen 102 Though only one sided, how about the artistry of the horse!? CARTHAGE. Circa 300 BC. AR Three-quarter Shekel(?) (18mm, 2.80 g,). Carthage mint. Wreathed head of Tanit left / Horse standing right, head left; Punic ‘ayin below. MAA 37 variante; CNP 102a; SNG Copenhagen 143. Obverse eroded. Rare And here a coin from what had been Punic Sicily until Rome took over and shared their amazing artistry😉 Sicily, Syracuse Roman Occupation, Bronze, After 212 BC, AE (g 7,04 mm 2o), Head of Zeus r., dotted border, Rv. ΣYPAKOΣIΩN, Isis standing l., holding istrum and sceptre. Dotted border. CNS II, n. 240 SNG Copenhagen 904 SNG ANS 1065. Thanks for taking a look and please share your coins of Carthage, or thoughts on what history would look like if Carthage had won and raised Rome to the ground!

Remi, Electrum quarter stater "aux segments de circles"- 1,39 gram 10mm, minted 80-50BC obv: horse left rev: four segments of circles "Gallia Belgica (or Belgica Prima) was a Roman province located in what is now the southern part of the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, northeastern France, and western Germany. The Remi were a Belgic tribe of north-eastern Gaul in the 1st century BC. They occupied the northern Champagne plain, between the rivers Mosa (Meuse) and Matrona (Marne), and along the river valleys of the Aisne and its tributaries the Aire and the Vesle. Their tribal capital was at Durocortum (Reims, France) and they were renowned for their horses and cavalry. The Remi, under Iccius and Andecombogius, allied themselves with Julius Caesar when he led the conquest of Gaul. The Remi tribe remained loyal to him throughout the entire Gallic Wars, the most pro-Roman of all the peoples of Gaul." next: electrum

Sicily, Katane AR Litra. Circa 415/3-404 BC. Head of Silenos to left, wearing ivy wreath / ΚΑΤΑΝΑΙΩΝ Winged thunderbolt between two shields. Boehringer, Kataneische LI 6-7. Rizzo pl. XIV, 18 var. SNG ANS 1266. 0.71g, 10mm, 6h Next: Sicilian silver

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Congrats on the cool coins and thanks for the write up! It's incredible to me just how much of Roman history is them being d-bags!? You'd think they'd keep it to themselves that their founder committed fratricide, they kidnapped a bunch of their neighbors women or the atrocities committed by Caesar. But nope. They bragged about them every chance they got.

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It's a beautiful bronze owl. What's not to like? I thought it'd be easy to identify. But I'm not having much luck and would appreciate your help. Demos description leaves much to be desired...Greek. Uncertain. Bronze Æ. Weight 6,54 gr - Diameter 15 mm And on the reverse I'm pretty sure we're seeing an over hand right via a boxing glove😉 (Now you can't unsee it) Identification or any ideas or similar coins are appreciated😁

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The four beauties in your hand! And agreed, those four coins need no Byzantine interference. Each a total showstopper on their own. An embarrassment of riches, my friend. Coingrats

A most epic error to leave any mint: MACEDON, THESSALONICA Nero, Bronze. 54-68 A.D. 5,12 g // 17 mm Obv: ΝƐΡWΝ ΚΑΙϹΑΡ; bare head of Nero, l. Rev: ΘƐϹϹΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ; Nike on globe, l. RPC I, 1595. VF Next: Nero

Great call! A distilled water bath for a couple of days and then the verdicare treatment is what the doc ordered.

Only you can tell us if it's Ae22. That simply means it's 22mm, and Ae means bronze. Hers your best resource, ac search: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Sicily+Tyndaris+Dioscuri+&category=1-2&lot=&date_from=&date_to=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&currency=usd&order=0 I don't believe that's a lefty Apollo, but could be Tanit. Though it is the Dioscuri on horseback on the reverse.

Agreed. These are the front and back of two different coins. And to your question, no. Do not damage ancient artifacts by attempting to clean them yourself. If you're not satisfied, buy coins in a condition that you like. You will do more harm than good in any attempt to clean ancients.

Thanks for asking! It's from Amyntas. Just a favorite representation of Herk of mine to show the family roots😉 Amyntas, AE. (Bronze,8.85 g 24mm) 36-25 BC. Obv: Bearded and bare head of Herakles right, with club over shoulder. Rev: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / AMYNTOY, Lion walking, right. Ref: RPC I 3502; HGC 7, 781; BMC 8-11.

The Argead line was the greatest family of ancient Makedon, and certainly one of the most important families in all of ancient history. Claiming their descent from Herakles himself. This family boasts the first unified king of Europe, and first to unify and rule Greece, in Philip II. As well, the greatest conqueror of peoples of all time in Alexander the Great! (Images, likely of, Alexander lll and Philip ll found in Vergina) Though, not a name so recognizable, my latest win, Archelaos, was a big deal and an important step for the ultimate rise of Philip ll. He did more for his nation's military infrastructure then anyone before, according to no less than Thucydides. (The sixteen foot spear was likely an innovation of Philip ll) He made major political inroads with Athens by supplying them with timber after Athens total defeat in their disastrous Sicilian campaign. This would bring back Athens naval fleet that nearly turned the tide and won the war late in the game! (After going timber in Sicily, Athens needed timber to build their navy back) And, was the winner in numerous pan Hellenic games including the real Olympics! My latest addition was a king who did all this and more: Kings of Macedon. Aigai. Archelaos 413-399 BCE. Obol AR 10 mm, 0,61 g. Fine Obv. Bearded Herakles wearing a lion's skin headdress. Rev. [ΑΡΧ-Ε] Forepart of wolf right, devouring prey and club above. Source: SNG ANS 72. Some other Argead kings of Makedon... Alexander l Alexander I 498-454 BC. AR Tetrobol (15mm, 1.97 g). Horse right / Quadripartite incuse square. Raymond pl. V, b; SNG ANS 20. Ex Savoca Raymond concluded that this rare issue was most likely struck before Alexander's escape from Persian influence in 480/79, yet the fine style of the incuse is unlike his earliest coinage. Thus, she was unable to place it securely within the established chronology of Alexander's coinage. Likewise the low weight - which corresponds precisely to the weight of a triobol on the Macedonian octadrachm standard (1.83 g) - of this and the other fractional issues she illustrates leaves little room for a certain identification of the denomination. This coin could be a very light-weight tetrobol or it could equally be a triobol. Because of the significant wear and the likelihood of internal crystallization of this piece, we have called it a tetrobol, assuming that when it was freshly minted it was probably close to the theoretical weight of 2.18 g on the Macedonian tetradrachm standard. Perdikkas II, 451-413 B.C. Æ 18 (19 mm, 2.94 g, 11 h). Head of Herakles right, wearing lion's skin headdress / ΠEPΔIK-KA, Lion standing right, breaking spear with mouth and foreleg. SNG Alpha Bank 240; SNG ANS 114. Purchased from Savoca Oct 2021 Aeropos II, (398/7-395/4 BC). Æ Dichalkon (11.5mm, 1.60g). Aigai. Head of male r., wearing kausia. R/ Forepart of lion r. Westermark, Remarks 4; HGC 3.1, 814. Good Fine. Purchased from Aphrodite Aug 2023 Pausanias, Bronze. 395/4-393 BC. 1,89 g. // 13 mm Obv.: Head of Temenos to right, wearing taenia. Rev: ΠΑΥΣ, forepart of boar right, legs extended. BMC -; SNG ANS -; SNG Alpha Bank -; Westermark, Regal Macedonian Coinage 1a nVF, Rare. Purchased from Fitz Nov 2022 Amyntas III, (393-369 BCE). 3.42 g. 17 mm. Tetrachalkon. Aigai or Pella. Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin. Rev: AMYNTA. Eagle standing right, grasping serpent with talons. SNG Alpha Bank 214-230. Very fine. Perdikkas III, (365-359 B.C.), AE 18, tetrachalkon, (18 mm, 6.31 g), Aigai mint, obv. head of Herakles in lion skin to right, rev. lion standing right, breaking a javelin with its jaws, above **PERDIK*, (S.1515, Westermark, Kraay-Morkholm Essay, Remarks 47, SNG ANS 114, BMC 3, HGC 3, 839 [R]) (illustrated) Nearly VF Early Makedon- Macedon, Tragilos, 450-400 BC. AR Hemiobol (7.4mm, 0.28g, 6h). Grain ear. R/ Quadripartite incuse square; T-P-A-I in quarters. SNG ANS 903; SNG Copenhagen 446. MACEDONIA, Eion, AR Trihemiobol OBVERSE: Goose standing right, head reverted, lizard downward to left above REVERSE: Quadripartite incuse square Struck at Eion, 460-400 BC .66g, 11mm, SNG ANS 273-284ʺ Former CT pal Bing THRACO-MACEDONIAN REGION, Uncertain. 5th century BC. AR Tetartemorion (6mm, 0.25 g). Primate crouching left / Pellet or shield within incuse square with slightly rounded corners. Tzamalis 67. Toned, patches of find patina, some granularity. VF. Rare. From the Jim Gilman Collection, purchased from John Jencek, 7 August 2009 And to end a Early Makedonien coin I won at the same Savoca over the weekend... Macedon. Akanthos circa 430-390 BC. Tetrobol AR, 16 mm, 2,17 g, Forepart of bull left, head right / Quadripartite incuse square. Good Fine If you read this and enjoyed it, you're welcome! And thank you!! If you didn't, welp, there's no accounting for taste. You know what we want to see... show us those coins of the Argead dynasty, Makedonien, Herakles, recent Savoca wins or anything that comes to mind works;)