hotwheelsearl Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 I have this thread over on CT, thought I'd start one here. Please show off the absolute worst, dog-awful flans you have. The worse the better, and especially for those periods when flans tended to be "alright." First post is this absolutely wonky Gallienus. He's got some weird flans, but they're typically relatively okay. This one really missed the "uniformity" memo. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted April 24, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 Yes, there are some bad flans. Here is a Tetricus. Tetricus I Antoninian, Köln Obv.: IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev.: PAX AVG, Pax standing facing, head left AE, 2.5g - 17/20 mm Ref.: RIC 100 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted April 24, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) My worst flans seem to coincide with some festival/party going on. Perhaps it tells about about the state the mint workers were in ... 😁 Although it's not the worst flan, the double struck reverse gives it an extra party look...! And of course the 'C S' ! Edited April 24, 2023 by Limes 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted April 24, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 I have two contenders : Q 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 Gallic Empire coinage is the best for worst flans. But what about a specimen with NO FLAN ? 15 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsyas Mike Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 Fun, if unattractive, thread. The Byzantine Empire can always be counted on for some really lousy flans. Phocas half follis Heraclius & Constans II collection of broken potato chips: These are Heraclius countermark issues for Sicily - some of these are on full-sized folles. But some, like these, I think they were chopping up largish folles and making new coins out of the bits: 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted April 24, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted April 24, 2023 I gotta say Byzantine. I have a Constans II which is hilarious. Also a very poor Justin II with the emperor and wife looking like grey aliens on a ragged and tortured piece of metal. (Sorry no pics yet) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotwheelsearl Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 Victorinus is always a crowd (un)favorite. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Simpson Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) Gallic Empire flans tend to be pretty terrible. Under that assumption, this one isn't awful, but it's the worst one that I own. Edited April 24, 2023 by Boomer Simpson 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 Mars standing on a pile of rocks. Tetricus I Æ Double Antoninianus. Colonia Agrippinensis or Treveri, AD 271-274. Obv: IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev: VIRTVS AVGG, Mars standing left, holding spear and shield. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc9 Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 A beautiful Aurelianus with a strange flan : IMP AVRELIANVS AVG : radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right IOVI CONSERVATORI /✱P : emperor standing right, holding short sceptre, receiving globe from Jupiter, standing left, holding sceptre Antoninianus, AD 270-275, Siscia, RIC 227 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 Bad flans can also be found on SMALL coins Ionia, Phokaia. Circa 521-478 BC. AR Tetartemorion. 7 mm, 0,18 g. Head of griffin left / Incuse punch. Cf. SNG Kayhan 514–6 (hemidrachms) and 1428 (diobol). It is possible that this issue may belong to Abdera or Teos, both of which also issued early silver coins with griffins on the obverse. Mysia. Kyzikos circa 525-475 BC (other sources - 450 or 480-400 BC) Tetartemorion AR 8 mm, 0,18 g Forepart of boar left, tunny to right / Head of roaring lion left, star to upper left, all within incuse square. Von Fritze II 14; SNG France 375. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted April 24, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2023 User-error contributed hugely to this flan but - AMBRACIA. Ca. 456-430 BC. Silver stater Obv. Pegasus flying right, A below. Rev. Head of Athena wearing Corinthian helmet right, within incuse square. Impressively (!!) double struck, slipped during the striking process, creating a tab-like extension on one side. The entire planchet partially slid off the anvil, allowing only the rear part of the Pegasus to be doubled, and "enabling" the punch die to strike a second head of the Athena to the right of the original one. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted April 25, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2023 RR Ae aes grave uncia, c 270 BCE. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted April 25, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted April 25, 2023 Justin II and Sophia (Grey Aliens!), AE Follis. Ragged Flan. 31.4 mm 13.79 grams Obverse: DN IVSTINVS PP AVG, Justin on left holding cross on globe and Sophia on right, holding sceptre topped by cross, both nimbate, seated facing on double-throne Reverse: Large M, ANNO to left, cross above, regnal year to right (year III), officina letter below, mintmark CON. Reference: SB 360, MIB 43. (492 (!) combinations known) 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapphnwn Posted April 25, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2023 Some of the flans presented thus far are quite ..... what can I say??? Impressive This one for a siliqua is not so great. Ar Pre Reform Siliqua of Constantius II Sirmium 350-355 AD Obv Bust right draped and cuirassed wearing rosette diadem. Rv Inscription within wreath. RIC 66 2.83 grms 20 mm Photo by W. Hansen 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted April 25, 2023 · Patron Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/24/2023 at 8:24 AM, Marsyas Mike said: Fun, if unattractive, thread. The Byzantine Empire can always be counted on for some really lousy flans. You got that right!! Tiberius II Constantine 574-582 CE and Anastasia. Byzantine Æ half-follis, 5.02 g, 20.4 mm, 7 h. Thessalonica, 579 CE. Obv: dmTibCONS TANTPPAV, Nimbate Tiberius and Anastasia seated facing on double throne; he holds globus cruciger, she a scepter. Rev: Large K; above, cross; to left, A/N/N/O; to right, regnal indicator V (=5); beneath, TЄS. Refs: Berk 398; DOC 23; SB 439; MIBE 65. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted April 25, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 25, 2023 This is the only mis-shapen flan I have Honorius, AE3. Constantinople. AD 408-423. DN HONORI-VS PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right, star behind head / GLORI-A ROMA-NORVM, two emperors standing facing, looking at each other, holding a globe between them. Mintmark CONS and officina letter A, B, Gamma or Δ RIC X Constantinople 409; Sear 2102. 15mm, 1.47gr 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edessa Posted April 27, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 27, 2023 Celtic, Northeast Gaul. Leuci. Circa 100-50 BC. Potin Unit (15mm, 2.36g, 10h). Boar Standard series. Boviolles (Meuse) mint(?). Obv: Celticized male head to left on raised disc. Rev: Boar standing left; fleur-de-lis below. Ref: Castelin 582-593; LT 9078; CCCBM III 412-424. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted April 27, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 27, 2023 This Carus is my only flan that looks weird but I like it. It has character. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexios Posted April 28, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 28, 2023 Quality was so poor at the Sacra Moneta Roma they chopped up square flans! Gallienus BI Antoninianus Minted: 260 - 268 AD, at the Rome Mint Weight: 4.57g, Diameter: 23.65mm, Axis: 6H Obverse: GALLIENVS AVG,Head of Gallienus, radiate, right Reverse: IOVI CONS AVG,Goat, walking right Exergue: ς Reference: RIC V Gallienus 207 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc9 Posted April 28, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 28, 2023 An nice Easter egg : HERACLIUS δ N ҺЄRACLIЧS P P AVG : Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev: VICTORIA AVςЧ : Cross potent set upon globus gold Semissis, Constantinople, A.D. 610-641 Sear 784 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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