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  1. A very beautiful common pegasi. Also this type may not be so common, or rather may be quite special. There was an expert - Sir Charles Oman - who was particularly impressed with this type. The article is old, but interesting - Some Problems of the Later Coinage of Corinth. He was a longstanding president of the Royal Numismatic Society. I have no idea what Calciati has to say about that as I cannot afford the postage on his weighty tomes. eg Alone among all the series of the Corinthian mint, these nine pieces with symbols boar, ivy-leaf, plough, aegis, chimaera, Palladium, cornucopiae, and eagle [PI. IV. 3-8]-all invariably show round the head of Pallas a large wreath. Some see in it olive, some laurel, leaves. This addition to the normal type must have some meaning, as it never occurs before or after in the Corinthian series. As it lasts apparently for nine years - if the symbols, as is generally supposed, are annual signs - it points to some period of nine years in which the Corinthians imagined themselves to be blessed with a continual round of victories or of glorious peace. Looking round the chequered history of Corinth in the fourth century, I cannot identify any such period of marked and prolonged prosperity. Can it therefore be possible that the wreath marks the victories of the Hellenic league against Persia, of which Alexander was the champion and commander? The Congress at which he was nominated to that position had been held at Corinth, and the Corinthians may have considered themselves peculiarly bound to celebrate the successes of the league of which they had seen the foundation.
  2. These are usually described as obols, the low weight notwithstanding. No idea if that's incorrect, but if you search under that you'll get a lot more information and dating clustering more tightly around 480BC. Eg MACEDON. Akanthos. Circa 480-470 BC. Obol (Silver, 9 mm, 0.37 g). Head and neck of lioness seen from above; border of dots. Rev. Quadripartite incuse square with granulated surfaces. BMFA 525. HGC 3.1, 390. Klein 29. SNG ANS 27-29. Very fine. I think Bes is really unlikely because it would be an odd association (lion wearing crown when on most coins its more clearly a mane) , plus it does look like an attempt at a mane plus Bes's "worship" was not known there - there was a Bes link to Dionsyos who was a popular chap in some parts up there, but (famous last words) I don't think there's a direct link. Not sure if I understood the question - if not then @Anaximander no doubt did! Also Numista has a similar coin, with reference links at the top right. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces186222.html Author Dieter Klein Title Sammlung von griechischen Kleinsilbermünzen und Bronzen Publisher Edizioni Ennerre
  3. This is a coin I'd missed twice in 3 years, but with gently falling prices I was able to buy it very recently. Aside from the subject, I'm intrigued by the clear letter P at around 10 o'clock well outside the incuse square. This one was tinged with some sadness though as it was from the Wild Rose collection. KINGS of MACEDON. Archelaos. 413-400/399 BC. AR Stater (25mm, 10.54 g, 1h). Aigai mint. Head of Apollo right, with short hair, wearing tainia / Horse advancing right, trailing rein, in linear square within shallow incuse square. Yes, but really only the base. It's a bit confusing when there as the archeological park isn't where some of the main "expected" sites are as the city was moved by Nicocles. Old Paphos is ruddy long walk from Paphos and it was even more confusing as I met 100's of British Army soldiers on my forced hike (we have a big base not very far from there.) There's an amazing cult stone of Aphrodite there.
  4. Leontini is lion central not surprisingly. I managed to scoop a nice (scalped) fractional from Noonans who didn’t seem to know which end was up. SICILY, Leontini, Obol, 475-455, facing lion scalp, rev. λε ον divided by ear of barley, 0.42g (Boehringer 19; BMC 19). Nearly very fine, dark tone It should have been 180 degree turned to look more like this if better quality -
  5. Here is an excellent explanation, & sorry. https://www.numismatikforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=53721&start=1065
  6. Experimentation with front-facing worked with rather more spectacular success on your coin than mine. Kyrene 1/10 Stater. Circa 331-322 BC. Aristagoras, magistrate. Horned head of Zeus Ammon to right; API behind / Mangled head of Kyrene facing slightly to right. This 19th century image of her is a little nicer. It's a slight shame Kyrenaica is so caught up in the imagination with silphium, truly interesting though it is. It was a major producer of cumin and wheat, and could use to its advantage a wheat harvest that came a full month ahead of its main markets to the north. There's an excellent analysis of it in The Corrupting Sea, where Kyrene itself is called the Green Mountain and indeed its location is quite surprising - photos Wikipedia - a long way from the sea and several major rises in land above it. It's also managed to get itself all caught up in arguments about the nature of civilisation, ongoing since James Hamilton (Wanderings in North Africa) in 1856 contrasted "the monumental industry of fallen civilisation with the slothful hut of victorious barbarism."
  7. It was more that I'd tried to resist, but I'd read "all" the literature online I could (having first been attracted to the Eye types) and then staying in Silchester was Fates-driven and it is known not to resist them, plus it would have been churlish not to...but the rest of my year was spent in penury. No regrets, it is a prize coin for me.
  8. Here goes. No excuse. I'd been staying in Silchester on the way back from fishing and was waiting for the Greek section to come up, and blew my budget here instead. There's a pub there (quite good) called the Calleva Arms, but its products were not responsible for this. Silchester = Calleva Atrebatum. Atrebates. Tincomarus AV 1/4 Stater. Calleva, circa 25 BC-7 AD. 'Medusa' type. TINC on rectangular tablet; C above, A below / Winged head of Medusa facing, a pair of snakes knotted below the chin, two large snakes descending on either side of the face.
  9. When I was looking up nosebleed Greek gold prices for my post yesterday on Kyrene, I found the miserable Artemis had sold for even more back in 2010 - 1m chf! https://www.coinarchives.com/a/openlink.php?l=377735|685|84|a558bb32684b4d8fcd55c3f532e0e6e8 That's quite the loss in a raging bull market for premium coins. As for poor examples of amazing types, I have plenty! One of these Akragas eagle/crab combos is mine, one not. One 55k the other 1.5% of that. Mine has a "better" known pedigree though! That's how I console myself as I stoop, weeping bitterly...
  10. Early Greek gold is often an indicator of great distress, as emergency issuance, but by the 4th century it was settling down to a more usual though rare form of issuance, often of course related to financing war. Kyrene had a fairly large series of issues, especially around the time of the extraordinary general of Alexander, Ophellas, who followed Ptolemy to Egypt, and conquered Kyrenaica, at the time in a state of civil war. (This same man went down the Indus with Alexander!) At the risk of fast-forwarding (I mentioned the bisque etc) Ophellas played a key role in Agathokles of Syracuse's daring counterattack on Carthage. Agathokles promised Ophellas control over all captured North African territories, ie African Carthage in return for troops & after a difficult 2 month journey over land linked up with the Sicilian who - of course- had Ophellas killed with the Kyrenian troops going over to Agathokles. Magas then became governor and later king of Kyrene - there are plenty of available silver coins from this time, many from a recently found hoard. In this constant fighting, the following coin was issued, though Nomos for whatever unclear reason choose to place it towards the end of the period. 3.44g, or $250 of gold value sold for $60,000 yesterday, 8th of June. Seller's verbage (note "apparently" and "seemingly"...) - KYRENAICA. Kyrene. Circa 308-277 BC. Drachm (Gold, 7 mm, 3.44 g, 2 h). Head of Zeus Ammon facing, turned very slightly to his left - our right - with curly hair and a neat beard. Rev. [KYP]AIN Silphium plant with four leaves (two on each side), and five flowers (one at the top and one above each pair of leaves). Apparently unpublished. Seemingly unique. With an astoundingly finely made head of Zeus.... "Astounding" is a matter of opinion so I'll leave that bit at that. I don't think many have sold at that price to spot premium. There's the one in my avatar (a Sicilian tetralitron), a Gela diltron, a Megalopolis quarter stater, an early Kumae, probably more, but it's unusual! One good thing about the Nomos auctions - to help cope with their hour-long breaks mid-auction - is Walker (esteemed auctioneer) finds it difficult to control himself when a coin sells for "too much", reports on audience sniggering when a certain well-known overbidder (just an opinion!) is in action, and occasionally berates his (excellent) book runner, and this coin certainly got its fair share of surprised reaction. The good news though is that small Kyrene gold can be acquired for $500. Not unique but often with as good eye appeal as this quite beaten up Nomos coin. Here's one, bought not long ago literally for 1.05% of the price of the astounding coin. It's only a 1/10th stater, but I like it. KYRENAICA, Kyrene. Circa 331-322 BC. AV Tenth Stater (7.5mm, 0.81 g, 9h). Cydis, magistrate. Head of Apollo Karneios left; KYΔ to left, star behind neck / Head of Kyrene right. This one is also astounding, though possibly for the wrong reasons. KYRENAICA, Kyrene. temp. Magas. Circa 294-275 BC. AR Didrachm (19mm, 7.58 g, 12h). Head of Zeus Karneios right / Silphion plant; stars across upper fields. Please feel free to post anything from Kyrenaica or Greek gold! It's not all silphium though that's naturally a favourite. PS There's a very readable ode by Pindar, Pythian 9, on the nymph Kyrene et al, starting - With the help of the deep-waisted Graces I want to shout aloud proclaiming the Pythian victory with the bronze shield of Telesicrates, a prosperous man, the crowning glory of chariot-driving Cyrene; the long-haired son of Leto once snatched her from the wind-echoing glens of Mt. Pelion, and carried the girl of the wilds in his golden chariot to a place where he made her mistress of a land rich in flocks and most rich in fruits, to live and flourish on the root of the third continent.
  11. Yes he sold one that then was authenticated by Sear who later changed his mind after NGC condemned it . Lanz then resigned from the IAPN to avoid repaying the buyer. I can't remember who was the purchaser. There was a long discussion on it elsewhere but years ago, where it surprised me quite how many of the Sear Certificates were backing unsound coins. No idea what percentage but by number there were a lot.
  12. I regularly have Italian articles translated by google et al. If they are pdfs then it will translate the whole thing, usually very well. If a website it will of course translate the whole thing, and if another format I just either copy and paste into the translator or take a photo and take the text that way. There are a few foibles in some of the technical aspects of coin minting - lots of references to cones and anvils, but the only one I haven't been able to correct is an insistence on translating taenia (ταινία) - a type of headband - when used as such in Italian docs as "tapeworm". I understand why it does it, but it certainly affects the appreciation of a coin to find it described as say nymph with tapework around head etc...
  13. @xCandia welcome! I cannot add anything of specific value to @Romismatist's comments but it might be of interest to use the search function top right when on the forum home page to see other posts on this general subject. Eg "Amisos". There are quite a few helpful comments.
  14. La Galleria Nazionale in Rome has a major exhibit on just this theme at the moment. It is absolutely amazing. So breathtakingly different. A couple of photos here, not mine as mine have the visitors too... There are many more similar to these.
  15. When I saw it, it immediately looked like he was sitting on an omphalos. If that's the case, there are some strange stories about Apollo after he killed Pytho, some of which are likely shown on coins of Kaulonia. This coin looks very much like one of those stories- several of them stress how he was made unclean by the killing and had to purify himself. In one I was told (but which I can find no proof for at all) after defeating her, Apollo sat on the omphalos stone and underwent a ritual purification by a shepherd named Crinis. As part of this purification rite, Crinis milked his ewe while sitting on the omphalos stone (at Delphi). The milk he used was believed to have cleansing properties that helped purify Apollo after his violence. Just in case it helps...the lack of attribution for the story makes it unhelpful at best. I swear I'm not making up random stories! 🙂
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