panzerman Posted February 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 15, 2023 I will start with this.... Piacenza Odoardo Farnese I/ Duke of Parma/ Piacenza AV 2 Doppie 1626 11 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Posted February 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 15, 2023 Italian States-Tassarolo, Filippo Spinola (1616 - 1688 A.D.) AR Luigino O: LIV • MA • PRI • SP • COM • T • SOVV • DOM; Draped bust of Livia Centurioni right. R: D N S • ADIVTOR •-• ET • REDEM • MEVS; Crowned coat of arms, rosette above, T below, 16 | 66 across fields. 22mm 2.27g KM 52.1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted February 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 15, 2023 12 hours ago, panzerman said: I will start with this.... Piacenza Odoardo Farnese I/ Duke of Parma/ Piacenza AV 2 Doppie 1626 John, That coin is a masterpiece of 17th century engraving 🤩! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted February 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 15, 2023 I don't have much to share but this early Sicilian coin struck at the Messina mint. Italy, Sicily-Messina. Frederick III, 1296-1337. AR Pierreale: 3.26 gm, 25 mm. Reverse: Aragon cost of arms. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsyas Mike Posted February 16, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 16, 2023 Beautiful coins in this thread. This is my most recent Italian States coin: Papal States 5 Baiocco Pius IX (1846-1870) 1850 / Year V Bologna Mint PIVS · IX· PONT · MAXIMVS · ANNO · V · Papal arms (small shield) over laurel wreath / 5 | BAIOCCHI | 1850 | B KM 1346. (40.22 grams / 40 mm) eBay Jan. 2023 $5.50 It is huge: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewomack Posted February 16, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2023 Italy, Republic of Genoa, 1139 - 1339 AR Gross ND; Obv: +.IA.NV.A. Castle view; Rev: CVNRADIREX, Maltese type cross with six diamonds around. Ref: Biaggi 895 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted February 17, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) On 2/14/2023 at 5:39 PM, panzerman said: I will start with this.... Piacenza Odoardo Farnese I/ Duke of Parma/ Piacenza AV 2 Doppie 1626 That Odoardo Farnese I AV 2 Doppie is a knockout coin! Wonderful examples posted! I have a few Italian states coins. Philip II, mezzo ducato, Naples, 1554-6 IBR (monogram). Purchased from a Daniel Sedwick auction in 2020. Pannuti Riccio 3 14.7 grams This coin was struck during the period that Philip II was the husband of Mary I of England. "ANG" (for England) appears in the obverse title between 10 and 12 o'clock. Sicily, Ferdinand IV, oncia, 1791, Palermo mint. Purchased from the Money Company, 1990. KM221, Dav-1420, MIR-597 (R2), Spahr-2 68.2 grams This is an old timer with seems to be a test scratch behind the portrait. This coin has a wonderful depiction of the phoenix arising from the flames on the reverse. I have other Italian states coins that need to be photographed, something that I hope to accomplish in the future. Edited February 17, 2023 by robinjojo 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailathacl Posted February 17, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Got this 13th century bad boy at auction during NYINC. Had been looking for one of these with the right look ever since reading the Florence section in Eric Weiner’s “The Geography of Genius”. Edited February 17, 2023 by Bailathacl Added auction listing description. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 18, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 Nice Florentine AV Florino d'oro! Here is another one acquired from Heritage.... It was struck under Ranuccio I Farnese/ but portrays his Dad/ Alessandro Farnese Duci di Parma & Piacenza AV 2 Doppis 1595 (As you can see/ the coin was poorly executed) Had the Spanish fleet succeeded in 1588. Philip II European Commander was Alessandro. So he would have led the Spanish land armies in the invasion of England. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 18, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 Here is one with pedigree to 1936 Berlin Auction/ where it sold for 25 Reich Marks ($5)US! Papal States AV Fiorino di camera ND (1494) Roma Mint Alessandro VI (Rodrigo Borgia) 1492-1504 Pope and mistress 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted February 19, 2023 · Patron Share Posted February 19, 2023 Here is my favorite Italian States piece in my collection. It's very nice in hand. Florence. Ferdinand II de Medici Teston 1636 AU58 NGC, KM-Unl., CNI-XII-91. A scarce Teston type depicting St. John the Baptist to the reverse, bordering on Mint State And this piece that I don't know why I purchased because I hate snakes. It's a terrifying image to me. ITALY, Milano (duchy). Gian Galeazzo Visconti. 1395-1402. AR Pegione – Grosso da 1.5 soldi Diameter: 24mm Weight: 2.41 g New coinage. Milano mint. Struck 1395-1398. Obverse: Visconti arms (coiled serpent left, consuming man) flanked by G 3; all within quadrilobe with leaves in spandrels Reverse: Nimbate St. Ambrose enthroned facing, wearing episcopal regalia, holding scourge and crozier MIR 121/1; Crippa 4/A; cf. MEC 12, 635-8 (for type). Deposits. VF. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane76 Posted February 19, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 19, 2023 Hi, this is my first post, but have “lurked” here awhile. Great site and great posts! Anyways, hope this posts correctly. 1778 Italian States Tuscany Francescone ( 10 Paoli) 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 19, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Papal States (Bologna) AV 10 Zecchini 1787 Bologna Mint Poe Pius VI 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 19, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Better photos of last coin! 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 19, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 Ferrara/ Duchy Alfonso II D'Este 1559-98 AV Scudo d'oro ND Ferrara Mint 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted February 20, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2023 A few medieval Italian coins: Ancona: Italy, Ancona, civic issue, BI denaro, 1173/–mid 14th c. Obv: + DE ANCONA; cross. Rev: +.PP.S.QVI.RI.A.; CVS around dot. 17mm, 0.67g. Ref: Biaggi 33; CNI 76. Genoa: Italy, Genoa, civic issue, AR denaro, 1139-1339 (class D, 1190s–1236 AD). Obv: +•IA•NV•A•; city gate. Rev: •CVNRADI REX; cross pattée. 16mm, 0.74g. Ref: MEC 12, 213–215; CNI 69; MIR 16; Biaggi 835. Lucca: Italy, Lucca, civic issue, under Henry II-V, AR denaro, c. 1004–1125 AD. Obv: +IMPERATOR; H-monogramm in circle. Rev: +ENRICVS; L-V-C-A around central dot. 16mm, 0.91g. Ref: Biaggi 1098. Naples: Kingdom of Naples, under Robert "the Wise" of Anjou, AR gigliato, 1309–1317. Naples mint (?). Obv: +ROBERT DEI GRA IERL ET SICIL REX; Robert sitting facing on lion throne, holding lily scepter and globus cruciger. Rev: + hOnOR. REGIS. IUDICIU. DILIGIT; floral cross, lilies in quadrants. 28mm, 3.93g. Ref: MIR Napoli 28. Normans on Sicily: Norman Kingdom of Sicily, under William II "the Good," AE trifollaro, 1166–1189 AD, Messina mint. Obv: lion's head facing. Rev: palm tree. 26mm, 10.27g. Ref: Spahr 117; Biaggi 1231. Venice: Italy, Republic of Venice, under Giovanni Dolfin (57th Doge), AR soldino (slightly clipped), 1356-1361 AD. Obv: +IOh’S DELPhYNO DVx; kneeling doge holding banner l., . Rev: + S MARCVS VENETI; lion of St. Marc with banner l.; in field l., S. 14mm, 0.43g. Ref: MEC12, 1164–1165. And, though not really a coin, here is a 15th century money weight from Milan that was meant to check @panzerman's splendid gold coins: Italy, Milan (Duchy), under Galeazzo Maria Sforza, AE peso monetale (coin weight for the ducato d’oro), ca. 1466–1476 AD. Obv: armored bust of Galeazzo Maria Sforza r. Rev: originally blank; circular punch and retrograde S added after striking. 16mm, 3.34g. Mazza: I Pesi Monetari di Monete Milanesi 24 (or similar). 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 20, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 Great coins! Ursus Thanks for sharing😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 20, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 Toscana/ Duchy AV 3 Zecchini (Ruspone) 1781 Firenze Mint Pietro Leopoldo (future HRE Leopold II 1790-92 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 21, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 Papal States AV 5 Lire 1866 Roma Mint Pope Pius IX 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eidolon Posted February 22, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 22, 2023 I have quite a few Italian states coppers, mostly in low grades. Here are some from Milan, mostly Filippo III, 1600s. And here are some nice big Kingdom of Naples coppers from around the Napoleonic Era. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 22, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 Two Sicilies AV 3 Ducati 1818 Napoli Mint Ferdinando IV di Bourbone 1759-1825 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted February 22, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 Sardinia (Savoy Rulers) AV 20 Lire 1859-R Anchor "mm" Genoa Vittorio Emanuele II 1849-61 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eidolon Posted February 23, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 23, 2023 Gorizia 1 Soldo 1764 H Venice 1623-24 1 Soldo Republic of Naples 1648 3 Tornesi Papal States Gubbio 1750 Quattrino Jubilee Year Sardinia 1/2 Soldo 1783 I could go on for a while--I bought a bunch of low-grade unidentified (mostly) Italian coppers a few years back. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted February 23, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Here are two more coins that I photographed today. Philip II, Kingdom of the two Sicilies, ducato, Naples, 1564-1571. CNI XX, page 67; 578 Davenport 8317 29.79 grams This is the first Italian states crown that I purchased back in the mid 1980s from my local coin dealer, who specializes in Italian coinage, with a focus on Sicily. The coin has been cleaned, but over the years toned nicely. While not lacking a date, this coin can be identified as one minted following the end of Philip II's marriage to Mary I of England, due to the absence of ANG (England) in the obverse legend. This is a hammer struck coin. Republic of Genoa, scudo stretto, 1647 BN. Acquired from World Wide Coins of California, June 1991, lot 196 ($600). Davenport 3901; CNI-2 38.22 grams Genoa, in the 17th and 18th centuries was a prosperous center of trade and banking, serving the financial needs of the Hapsburg and later Bourbon kings of Spain. This is reflected in Genoa's prolific coinage during this period, with often times beautiful and magnificent examples in gold and silver, including multiple scudo size coins. Edited February 23, 2023 by robinjojo 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eidolon Posted February 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted February 24, 2023 A few more if you will put up with me! Papal States 10 Soldi 1867 Pius IX Year XII Papal States 1 Lira Pius IX Year XIII 1869 Clockwise from top L: Gubbio 1680 Quattrino, Venice ND (1676-1684) Soldo, Gorizia 1799 2 Soldi, Milan 1777 1/2 Soldo Papal States (?) Pope Paul V Testone (Couldn't find an exact match for this one, but his Papacy was 1605-1621) As you can see, I love Italian states coins, especially when I can get them unidentified for cheap! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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