ChrisB

IMHO, NGC will not consider that an error nor give it a details grade based on the planchet flaw. I have sent in a few coins with a similar condition. It appears that part of the design is visible inside of the affected area which tells me it was there when the coin was struck. The coin below has a similar flaw. It did come back details graded but it was for cleaning. The flaw wouldn't keep me from submitting it to NGC. It looks like the OP's coin is struck over another coin. Looks like there are some details "behind" the legend that shouldn't be there. Would be neat to try and figure that out.

I missed one.

There is a great book on these that the ANS published. I have a relatively new interest as well. A few of mine:

I've grown to enjoy these more than the Conder series. I don't really purchase many but will when one crosses my path.

My taste in numismatic items tends to be inconsistent at best. Set building is not an interest of mine. The more unique an item is, the better chance that it will catch my attention. When I read the title to an item on one of my favorite dealers website, I assumed it was for one of the many varieties of Crystal Palace medals that can be found. They are mostly well-made pieces with a depiction of Crystal Palace on one side with multiple varieties of reverses. To my surprise, that was not the case. I hadn’t been aware, but there were two related structures that called themselves Crystal Palace. The original in London and then later one in New York. So, the question I asked myself was: which Crystal Palace issued this medal. The sellers description doesn’t help: UNITED STATES & GREAT BRITAIN. Crystal Palace Company silver award Medal. Awarded 1891 to Walter MacEwen (63mm, 108.83 g, 12h). By G. G. Adams. The original Crystal Palace was built in London’s Hyde Park in 1851. It was designed and erected by the famous English gardener and architect Joseph Paxton (1803–1865). As head gardener for the Duke of Devonshire, Paxton had already designed and built major greenhouses for his employer. His plan for the Crystal Palace was based on that experience as well as the cruciform shape of Gothic churches. The building was originally created for the Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry of All Nations, the first “World’s Fair”. Around 25 European and American nations took part in this international show, which exhibited the technical achievements of the industrial era. The Exhibition lasted for 140 days and was visited over 6.3 million people. One of the leading individuals organizing this great event was the prince consort Albert (1819–1861), husband of Queen Victoria (1819–1901). After the end of the Great Exhibition, the Crystal Palace could not remain in Hyde Park. Instead, it was disassembled and moved to Sydenham Hill, then on the outskirts of London, where the components were rebuilt to a different and even larger design. The work was completed in 1854, including a surrounding park with gardens, trees, fountains, and life-size figures of dinosaurs, which attracted particular attention, as well as statuary, including a bust of Paxton, who died in 1865. The Crystal Palace met its unhappy fate on the evening of November 30, 1936, when a fire spread out of control. Despite the efforts of hundreds of firefighters, by morning it had been destroyed. London’s Great Exhibition became the model for subsequent World’s Fairs organized in various countries. In July 1853, New York emulated London’s example with its Exhibition of the Industry of All Nations. Like London, New York built a modern structure of cast iron and glass for its exhibition and named it a Crystal Palace. It was designed by the Danish-American businessman Georg Carstensen (1812–1857) and the German-American architect Karl Gildemeister (1820–1869). Constrained by the limited space available, the location that is now Bryant Park in Manhattan, they designed it in the form of a Greek cross with an enormous central dome. When it became clear that the building needed more space for exhibits of machinery, they modified the ground floor to an octagonal shape. After the Exhibition closed in 1854, New York’s Crystal Palace was used for other events, but unfortunately it met the same fate as its namesake in London. The building was destroyed in a fire in less than half an hour in 1858. Since the New York structure was destroyed in 1858 it is most likely that there is no tie to that building. I could find no information that the two structures were operated by the same organization, so it is logical that this medal is a British production. Born in Chicago in 1860, Walter MacEwen often lived and painted in the Netherlands, with his style featuring a clear Dutch influence. One of his paintings, The Ghost Story (painted in 1887), depicts women of the house gathering to spin and prepare food. All eyes are fixed upon one of the women who is deep in an engrossing tail—that of a ghost story. The painting was exhibited at the Paris Salon in 1888 and the Chicago World's Fair/Columbian Expo in 1893, among numerous others, with it winning praise not only for its technical approach but also for it capturing the essential qualities of the Dutch. The painting was clearly also exhibited at the Crystal Palace Company showing in 1891, where it won the present award medal. Unmistakably pertaining to the same work of art, this medal clearly belonged to MacEwen. As for the painting, it now resides in the Cleveland Museum of Art, where it has been since 1923 when it was donated by Mrs. Edward S. Harkness. ORNATUR PROPRIIS INDUSTRIA DONIS, Britannia standing facing, holding trident and scroll; female personifications of the Arts and Industry to left and right; above, Fama flying left, trumpeting and holding cornucopia; view of the Crystal Palace in background // Engraving in eight lines in various scripts: "AWARDED / BY THE / Crystal Palace Coy / for a picture / A GHOST STORY / BY / W. MacEwen / 1891"; all within wreath. Edge: Plain. Numista claims that this medal is a product of John Pinches Medallist Ltd of London although I would like to find confirmation of that. The medallist for this piece, George Gammon Adams was born on 21 April 1821, in Middlesex. He entered the Royal Academy Schools in 1840 on the recommendation of the medallist William Wyon and trained as a sculptor and medallist. He won a silver medal at the academy in the same year. He was taught to model and cut medals and coin dies by Benedetto Pistrucci. Wow, he was connected to some prominent people of the time. He exhibited several works at the Great Exhibition of 1851, and was one of the three artists whose designs were used on the medals awarded to exhibitors. In the following year he was given the honor of making the death mask of the Duke of Wellington from which he made a marble bust of the Duke. This medal is issued in silver, and I have found another in silver that is undated and two more in bronze that were awarded in 1873 and 1893. All four of these were awarded for paintings. It appears that both the silver and bronze were minted in the same diameter. That’s a pretty small sample to make any conclusions from and it leaves me with lots of questions. How long were these issued? Were both silver and bronze issued in the same year (1st and 2nd place)? Were these issued in any other metals? Any thoughts on these questions are appreciated. https://numismatics.org/pocketchange/crystal-palace/ https://www.clevelandart.org/art/1923.416 https://profjoecain.net/crystal-palace-company-agm-first-annual-general-meeting-08-august-1853/

You would be correct. The architectural ones are some of my favorites. I try to stay with themes that are historically interesting to me. My collection of Conders is much smaller than it once was but I am being a lot more picky now. The Admiral Vernon medal is even nicer in hand if you can believe that. I feel it was one of the few bargains of the sale even though it wasn't cheap.

Last week I attended and assisted with the 2024 Early American Coppers (EAC) convention in Indianapolis. I don't have a strong interest in US large and half cents. I had a strong interest 10 or so years ago but it passed when my world coin affliction took hold. Over the course of the weekend I was able to pick up a few things that were of interest. One of the first things that caught my attention early on in collecting was Conder tokens. The Skidmore Globe Penny tokens have interested but I had never seen one in person. There are 30+ varieties with various architecture on the obverse. This one is D&H 132 with Sherborne Castle. The pictures don't don it justice. The surfaces are prooflike. SKIDMORE’S GLOBE SERIES O: SHERBORNE. CASTLE. OXFORDSHIRE R: A globe between a rose and thistle. BRITISH. PENNY. 1797. E: I PROMISE TO PAY ON DEMAND THE BEARER ONE PENNY. I have wanted a St Patrick's farthing since I learned of them. I may have to start a topic on the series. The EAC sale had 6 varieties and I was able to secure one. It is an interesting piece with nice provenance. (1652-74) St. Patrick Farthing, Martin 4c.4-Cb.2, not in Griffee, Breen-213, R7 PCGS graded F15. Type with "Sea Beasts Below King, Stars in Legend." Glossy medium brown with olive brown in protected areas. The splasher is bright golden tan and is offset to the right covering only a third of the crown. The surfaces are smooth but there are many tiny lumps from die rust. Late die state with a strong die crack from the feet of St. Patrick to the church. This piece has the eye appeal of a higher grade. Martin listed this piece and second finest of only 7 examples known to him. Weight 83.8 grains. The attribution and Martin Collection provenance are noted on the PCGS label. 915685.15/47375110 Ex John Agre & Dave Wnuck (Coin Rarities Online)-Jim LaSarre 12/2009-Sydney F. Martin Collection-Martin Estate, Stack's Bowers 11/13/2023:1387 (includes the Martin collection envelope and lot ticket) A recent new interest of mine is Admiral Vernon medals. There are a lot of varieties to these as well. Sharp but the obverse (Admiral Vernon side) was lightly cleaned. The obverse is golden tan; the reverse is frosty light brown with brassy tan in protected areas. Superior to the Newman example that was badly stained. Diameter 49.9mm, weight 267.0 grains. Ex Dix Noonan Webb Auctions 6/19/2002:723 Lastly, I picked up 3 hard times tokens from the EAC charity auction Friday night. These were purchased mostly to help the club. There was enthusiastic bidding to say the least.

One of my favorite US pieces. I have a few of them but this is the only one currently with an image.

Pretty cool. A while back I convinced myself that I had to have a box Thaler. The one below was the result of the search. Apparently, this type did NOT start its life as a coin but was a contemporary creation made for people to keep stuff in. It's the right diameter but the obverse and reverse don't technically match.

It was kind of an impulse buy. The only coin in my collection from the Fatimid empire. Picture and description from the seller. The ruler, al-'Aziz billah, has a fascinating history, worth a google search. Fatimids. al-'Aziz billah. AH 365-386 / AD 975-996. AV Dinar (23mm, 4.17 g, 12h). Misr mint. Dated AH 365 (AD 975/6). Nicol 699. VF. Rare.

Here is some Spain related emergency money. Some may be considered siege money.

This is an area that I have only dabbled in occasionally. I don't need another addiction. I see that it is attributed the same as @expat although mine is only .86g

The reverse of mine has signs of having been mounted.

I have one similar to the OP. It looks much nicer than my crappy photos.

This is one of my favorite coins. I like it so much that I purchased one of the modern restrikes put out by the Royal Dutch Mint