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what's the largest (size) Antoninianus flan which you've come across?


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Double Ants do certainly exist. Here are a few Tacitus examples.

Tacitus Double Antoninianus
Obv:– IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Emperor in military dress standing right, holding short eagle-tipped sceptre in left hand, receiving a globe from Jupiter standing left, holding long sceptre in left hand
Minted in Antioch (H//XI) Emission 3, Officina 8. January – June A.D. 276
Reference:– RIC 211 Bust Type C. RIC Temp No. 4096

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Obv:– IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Mars in military dress stg. (or walking) left, holding olive branch in right hand, spear and shield which rests on ground in left hand
Minted in Tripolis (* | _ //IA) Emission 2. January – June A.D. 276
Reference:– RIC 214 Bust Type C (R). Estiot Temp No. 4114 (11 examples)

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348246156_IMG_2483(1)Ants_rev..jpg.72a9146026b8521e4dafb941a2cd694d.jpg348246156_IMG_2483(1)Ants_rev..jpg.72a9146026b8521e4dafb941a2cd694d.jpgIf we consider the coins in terms of weight, readers know that this was a double denarius but was issued as coin only about 1.5 times the weight of the denarius. Interestingly the earliest mintages really did have the coin at close to twice the weight of the denarius and in pretty good silver of ca, 50% fine AG.. i have here what are my heaviest .  double denarius coins along with a typical denarius of the same time. The smaller denarius of Caracalla weighs in at exactly 2.5 grams, a not uncommon weight for these coins. it is Sear 6805. The two larger coins, one Caracalla, Sear 6805, and the other  Juia Domna, Sear 7098,  are both double denarii. The Caracalla antoninianus weighs  5.1 grams and that of Julia comes in at 4.79 grams. In terms of weight the double denarius may actually have a been a double weight coin, in some instances and for a while.446542839_IMG_2482Ants_obv..jpg.ba972276b008da7a65f51886f351967d.jpg

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The double antoninianus does exist, in "regular size" issues of Tactitus, and also in rare joint issues.

One of my biggest regrets in coin collecting is not buying this double antoninianus of Carus/Carinus on eBay when it came up for sale 4 years ago. It sold for around £40 I believe

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It's broken, but I wish I'd bought it, as it's a type I'm unlikely to see come up for sale at a reasonable price again.

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@mc9 The examples I have owned range from 3.8g to to 4.5g. It is the mint mark XI rather than XXI and IA rather than KA that gives the indication that the coins have a double silver content, which has been confirmed through metallurgic analysis. They are approximatelt 10% silver rather then around 5% silver on the normal Ants.

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That Trajan Decius would be still be an antoninianus. It is at the relatively heavy end of the spectrum but there sre many heavier. Many of the issues of Decius were heavy compared to other periods. It is possible that Decius was trying to reform the coinage by making the silver content higher as there are coins weighinh as much as 8gms known. This would have brought the solver content of this debased coinage up to about two denarii rather than the denarius and a half that the coinage had become during the Severan period. This is entirely speculation but after his death the weight seems to return back to lighter weights.

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My biggest antoninianus is the following one minted for Gordianus III that I got from Forvm years ago, it's 25 mm and 6,95 grams

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Gordian III, Antoninianus - Rome mint, 5th emission,  AD 05-243/02-244
IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
SECVRITAS PERPETUA, Securitas standing left, holding scepter and resting on column
6,95 gr, 25 mm
Ref : RIC #153, RCV #8661, Cohen #336, Michaux #409
Ex FORVM ancient coins

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I think my largest is 25mm and while he is out of my collecting area- I couldn't pass up his double eyes.

Valerian I, Felicitas Valerian I. AD 253 - 260 Antoninianus, Antioch; 4.36g; 22-25mm  IMP VALERIANVS PF AVG  radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right  FELICITAS AVGG Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopiae   RIC V 282; obverse double struck giving Valerian double eye Keywords: Valerian Felicitas

 

Valerian I. AD 253 - 260
Antoninianus, Antioch; 4.36g; 25mm

IMP VALERIANVS PF AVG
radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
FELICITAS AVGG
Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopiae
 

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I don't have many over 25mm. Here are 3 Probus

Helped by an oval flan

Obv:– IMP PROBVS AVG, Radiate, bust left in imperial mantle, holding scepter surmounted by eagle
Rev:– SOLI INVICTO, Sol in chariot riding left, holding globe and whip
Minted in Rome (R * E in exe) Emission 3 Officina 5. A.D. 278
Reference(s) – RIC 202 Bust type H
Weight 4.36 gms
Size 25.19 mm

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Just an oversized flan.

Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate cuirassed bust right
Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy.
Minted in Lugdunum (II in exe) Emission 3, Officina 2. November – December A.D. 276
Reference:– Cohen 337. Bastien 179. RIC 37 Bust type F

Weight 4.80g. 25.20mm. 0 degrees

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Another oval flan

Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate cuirassed bust right
Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy.
Minted in Lugdunum (II in exe) Emission 3, Officina 2. November – December A.D. 276
Reference:– Cohen 341. Bastien 178 (3 examples cited). RIC 36 Bust type F (Scarce)

Weight 3.40g. 25.71mm. 180 degrees

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2 hours ago, Qcumbor said:

My biggest antoninianus is the following one minted for Gordianus III that I got from Forvm years ago, it's 25 mm and 6,95 grams

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Gordian III, Antoninianus - Rome mint, 5th emission,  AD 05-243/02-244
IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
SECVRITAS PERPETUA, Securitas standing left, holding scepter and resting on column
6,95 gr, 25 mm
Ref : RIC #153, RCV #8661, Cohen #336, Michaux #409
Ex FORVM ancient coins

Q

That's a wonderful Gordian III. Beats mine: 24mm/4.44g

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11 hours ago, maridvnvm said:

That 33mm reading must be in error. 23mm would make more sense.

That very well could be. As of now, this is the largest antoninianus on acsearch. Second place with 32mm also comes from Roma numismatic

Perhaps both, one, or none are a misreading. I am not familiar enough with the series to comment on likelihoods of diameters being correct 

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This is my largest..

The dotted border of the obverse die is just under 20mm diameter. 

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Philip II... AR Antoninianus 247-249AD(23.5mm, 4.29g, 1h). Rome, AD 247.
Obverse..IMP PHILIPPUS AVG...Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
Reverse..PAX AETERNA...Pax standing left, holding olive branch and short sceptre.
RIC IV 231c; RSC 23

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This oblong one of T-Bone is my largest in diameter:

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Trebonianus Gallus, AD 251-253.
Roman AR antoninianus, 3.01 g, 25.0 mm, 12 h.
Branch mint (traditionally attributed to Mediolanum), AD 252.
Obv: IMP C C VIB TREB GALLVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
Rev: LIBERTAS PVBLICA, Libertas standing left, holding pileus and transverse scepter.
Refs: RIC 70; Cohen 68; RCV 9636; Hunter 50.

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