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The overstamped coin was bought without provenance by the BNF after NSSCA was published and (as far as I know), nothing was ever published about, although it might have been written about in Les histories des guerres Mithradatiques... ..... by deCallatay 1997...that photo came via that anyway. The next person who definitely wrote it was NewStyleKing who seems to link the headdress of Isis, the defeat of king Mithradates at the Siege of Rhodes and the Epiphany of Isis as a propaganda symbol against pontus in Headdress of Iset-who wears the crown? on academia.edu. The Roma coin's symbol was questioned ..why was it here? The Romalia festival commemorated? At such a fevered time! Obverse die linked to what is called Nike crowning Roma..why? Festival , Sura defeating tribes, the Roman social wars......who really knows BUT number 1 magistrate is Kointos which is the Greek version of the Roman name Quintus, Romans had stormed the magistrates in Athens! An imitation(3rd coin of mine) copies the Roma version but the figure is likely to be Aetolia replacing Roma. The magistrates names are copied..but I have said that symbols are very potent forms of propaganda... Was this a propaganda piece mocking Rome? Aetolia defeated the Celts and sat on their shields....is this referring to Romans or Mithradates?...... Athens New Style Tetradrachm c91/0 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 29.9 mm 16.4 gm Thompson issue (new) 75 Thompson catalogue: Obs1122/Rev1123 NEW Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark H/Z control ΣTΕ/ΔΑ below 2 magistrates : XENOCLES HARMOXENOS RF symbol : Roma seated Athens New Style Tetradrachm c90/89 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 30.5 mm 15.67 gm corroded Thompson issue (new) 76 Thompson catalogue: 1128a Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark Γ control ΠΡ below 3 magistrates : KOINTOS KLEAS DIONYSI RF symbol : Roma & Nike All surrounded by an olive wreath Athens New Style Tetradrachm c90/9 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 29 mm 16.53 gm Thompson catalogue: IMITATION Obs : 1420 Rev : NEW Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark A control ? below 2 magistrates : XENOCLES HARMOXENOS RF symbol : Aetolia ? All surrounded by an olive wreath

You might have read that Gold issues by Athens was rare and only seemed to have happened during times of political stress. I think this qualifies!

https://www.academia.edu/95114677/Remelted_or_overstruck_cases_of_monetary_damnatio_memoriae_in_Hellenistic_times?email_work_card=title I thought some might be interested in this. I am because of the remarkably overstamped Athens NewStyle of king Mithradates and Aristion. Yes, I agree it is to damn the Pontic symbol and all that entails. But what prof. deCallatay doesn't say is why headdress of Isis was possibly chosen. I have maintained because of the first disastrous setback to Mithradates. His attack on Rhodes was a farce where his assault was thwarted by none other than the goddess Isis who intervened by hurling thunderbolts. Rhodes, Rome's ally was saved . It is my contention that the headdress of Isis symbol became a pro-Roman symbol of defiance and why it was selected to trump the pontic star between 2 crescents. Symbols are more potent than words and are a visual form of literacy available to all.

Just think whilst unpacking the coins several years later and finding an egregious fake, or that the wrong coin had ben put in! And then because of the time between purchase, receiving and unveiling I think the seller who have grounds that sufficient time had passed for due diligence. I too once had a wrong coin sent to me about a year ago. The received coin was certainly nowhere near the value of the one ordered or of any interest numismatically! But the swap took place rapidly and things are right now. I'm am surprised people haven't jumped in with their comments on the coins themselves....the Leg Makadonon is spectacular and highly historical.

The obvious stand out coin is.........no, not the Sullan pseudo NewStyle.......but the rare Leg Makadonon, which I think is believed to predate the first meris ones. What are your stand-out coins?

Margaret Thompson in NSSCA devides these Sullan pseudo Athenian NewStyles in to type l with an "A" on the amphora and type ll without. ESG Robinson decoded the monograms to read Markoy Tamoiy which translates as Marcus, treasurer . I believe Thompson also was a believer! Marcus Lucullus was the beloved brother of Lucius Lucullus, it seems he was given a task also to raise a fleet as well as minting acceptable coinage. Robinson's decoding is generally accepted today...it is interesting that the monogram form was used which existed on the earlier NewStyle type and that the horse protomes on Athena's helmet is similar to that found on Heraklia on Lamon wreathed tetradrachms. My coin was purchased from eBay!

A really nice read. For fans of republican coins, Magna Grecia and finally Greece. Mention is made of the Gaius Publius bronze coins of Macedon that another forum member, (topcat) showed recently. And, of course, a honourable mention of the athenian NewStyle coinage which he dates c170-30BC which I think is wrong. I am of the popular modern opinion of c 164 - 42 BC Read it on academia.edu

Roman cameos and gems....... But I volunteer to oversee the Athenian coin collections.........although I have coins they don't!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66543589 In recent weeks the tale of long term thefts by a curator at the BM that was seemingly ignored by "the management". Rumour has it eBay was used as a selling vehicle! A bit like the baby murders at The Countess of Chester hospital blocked and ignored over years by "The management" What do management do? Attend champagne receptions, BS 100% and when it gets difficult blank it and take a dip in de nile!

Very much in the flavour of the Lucullian Pseudo-Athenian NewStyles with monograms. These monograms have been decoded to read Lucullus Tamioy cf above. I have no doubt that Robinson's unravelling is correct and Lucullus was basically echoing this Roman Makadonon type and the Aesillas type which had some precedent and thus acceptable.

I guess the illegible script is not a script eh? When is a pattern a script other than when it's recognisable. What do the legible scripts on other examples say? This is not a badge of Phanes! Illumination required please.

Facing bust of Helios, whilst looking like Jesus Athens NewStyle c 138/7 BC

Very little NewStyle wise has excited me since the Salton, late post Sullan coin. Maybe the thompson #3 sold by Roma, but not like in the good ol' days!

It looks as if they used the dies to death. Amphikrates and Epistratos symbol: Ear of Grain. 15 known obverses. The NewStyles at that time were completely lacking in artistic merit and the minting careless. date c 101/0. Towards the end of the Thompson Middle period. No it's not an imitation, they are really that bad! Thompson in NSSCA had trouble reading examples too! I don't think rarity in ac search means a great lot 104/3 Dionysus & Demeter ANDREAS - CHARINAUTES 103/2 WreathIKESIOS - ASKLEPIADES 102/1 Dionysus Mask & Thyrsus TIMOSTRATOS - POSES N 101/0 Ears of Grain AMPHIKRATES - EPISTRATOS 100/9 Tyche Staff & Cornucopia DOSITHEOS - CHARIAS N**

GEORGI DOBREVO/2000 RECONSIDERED: NOTE ON A 1ST-CENTURY BC COIN HOARD FROM THRACE* EVGENI I. PAUNOV Read and be appalled! On academia under E. Paunov A great paper by Evgeni Paunov absolutely fascinating......coins go a hiking in ancient times and today!

Just the kind of person I love. Found this in a note by another Bulgarian scholar. "Penchev 2001. Penchev is the single keeper of the coin collection at the National History Museum in Sofia. As a rule, he strictly forbids any approach for access to and research on the coins in the collection, whether from Bulgarian or foreign scholars." With these people around and nourished....what is the point! Smells fishy to me...what has he got to hide? You cannot make it up, but is the second example i know of...museums eh? Brick prisons of Ignorance.

Small size, non- Attic weight, 27mm 14.97 gm. Den of Antiquity Abydos Troas Anyone got any references on the hellenistic silver coins of Abydos Troas.

This rare coin is in the latest Hirsch auction I have never looked into these coins before but I downloaded,( Free on the web) Thonemann, Silver coinage of Antioch on the Meander, and this turns out to be seemingly another Roman proxy coinage due to the rumblings of the first Mithradatic war. Basically this Antioch produced no silver coinage before and suddenly out of the blue produced a flurry of tetradrachms and drachms of low weight and size! I think Thonemann is correct . What other short term coins issues are entirely due to the Mithradatic wars? Abydos, Seleucia Piera...any others? Bloody Romans, what did they do for us?

The Koinon of Athena Ilias and its Coinage Aneurin Ellis-Evans https://www.academia.edu/26905292/The_Koinon_of_Athena_Ilias_and_its_Coinage

No coins, but I understand that the Troad refers to Troy and its hinterland. There is one book, never read, Bellinger, Troy the coins. What's in there is a mystery. Anyone wish to enlighten me? I also understand it's a bit old and Arthur Bellinger has been dead for decades.

It's part of my Aspergers/ Autistic spectrum. And I guess for all others who collect things, classify things, photograph things...... It might start off of the want of owning an ancient artifact or researching it, but the true Aspergers type thing often takes over. Luckily my incredible success in the eBay smuggled coins arena has mostly supplied any wants. I am almost at the end of Athens NewStyle Aspergers disease!

But, despite Shakespeare, the assassination of Gaius Julius Caesar was a seismic event at the time and seemingly since! To have been produced and then to be written of is unique in world ancient history, except the Eid Mar type was echoed by a unique coin of the Civil Wars period c 100 later! The copy was sold in the last few years of civil wars coinage to stunned silence! It's like the Basileus Mithradates Athens NewStyle/Aristion coinage with Pontic star and 2 crescents prescining/fortelling ( what is that word?) the end of free Athens and generally the whole Greek world. And even better , one such Bas Mith coin being trumped with a deleted Pontic symbol by a Headdress of Isis which I have called a Roman rallying symbol after the disastrous Mithradatic siege of Rhodes hastened by the epiphany of Isis herself!