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Thanks for that @John Conduitt. I'm not too good at the melding/merging of photographs etc, but what you have done, thanks, shows that Indeed it is yet another new reverse and I will enter it in my academia.uk paper .

It will have changed almost the moment she published. |Holloway in his review of NSSCA says he went into some auction catalogues and immediately found new combinations! What I did in writing some New coin types in the Athens early NewStyles type was looking to see how rare they were and if Thompson #4 was a single year production or two? Ans; Thompson #1, obverse 1 and 2, no new coins since 1961 I could find in my searches, however obverse 3 seems to have 8 or 9 reverses. Maybe these minted after the first two apparent tentative tries....who knows! Thompson#2, New Obverse and some reverses. Same #3, . #4 Thompson herself found two new obverses but the ANS couldn't find the photographs, and no no I am no wiser that it was a 1 year or a 2 year production or no! #5, Since 1961, a few more coins as surfaced, 3 more obverses and reverses, but still a rare coin, but still not rare enough for an imitation to be produced! The NewStyle really took off at Thompson#6

Is it one of these? I'm not sure, but I don't think so!

Above is a Thompson #1, It is Thompson obverse type 3. So far I have found this obverse mated with mated with 6 other reverses, I think this maybe with yet another! What do you think...my eyes are dull I cannot see! What it means quite simply that there was a crazy amount of reverses to the one obverse.If people think it is then I shall add it to the picture above where my extensive researches has taken me. Numbers 1 & 2 are mated with the first Thompson obverses for which I have never found examples except in the ANS collection, so obverse 3 seems to the daddy of them all. Thanks in anticipation!

I'm not a believer. For papers on pamphylian Alexanders try Meadows and MacIntyre for Seleucid eras, via academia.edu.

But the only diadochi portrait is Ptolemy l , Seleucus is doubtful, Eumenes no,Antigonus no, Lysimachus no. Antipater no, Craterus no, Polyperchon no ! Have I missed one? Coins minted by them or thought to be yeah, but maybe not Eumenes or Polyperchon, and Philip ll was never really a Diadochi, but no portrait,.

Athens New Style Tetradrachm c125/4 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 29mm 16.67g Thompson issue 40 Thompson catalogue : 470f Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark Θ control ΜΕ below 3 magistrates : POLEMON ALKETES ARIS LF symbol : Tripod All within a surrounding olive wreath

Coming back to the Silver tetradrachm, can I ask where did you get it from? Is that yellowish colour a reflection? Sadly the monogram doesn't tell us anything, the order of the intpretation may be or maybe incorrect, and what does it reference? A name, a personal name, mint who knows. One thing is that it isn't the well known monogram of Pergamon that appears on the year 1 gold staters of Mithradates. Other silver tetradrachms with Pergamene regnal years , via Roma archive, ac search, don't have this monogram, but L' historie would need to be consulted. I like anything to do with the Mithradatic times and I cannot understand why the period is not so well collected because, without doubt, the 3 Mithradatic wars against the Romans sounded the death knell of the real Greek world.

A recent striking numismatic discovery provides the final piece of evidence. In 2003 a previously unknown coin of Magnesia on the Maeander came to light.38 Another was discovered and auctioned in 2008.39 The coin in question is a didrachm, weighting circa 6.04g, issued probably between 88 and 85 BC. Bust of Artemis with earring, metal band in her hair, bow stylized in the shape of stag’s head, and quiver on her back, is featured on the obverse. A grazing (drinking?) stag, standing on a narrow strip of meandering pattern with a triangular monogram between his legs, is on the reverse. The legend reads ΜΑΓΝΗΤΩΝ (reverse, above, interrupted by a star between Η and Τ), and ΜΑΙANΔΡIΟΣ ΑΡΤΕΜΙΔΥ – the name of the monetary magistrate (reverse, below, in exergue).40 The iconography of the coin is alien to the Magnesian tradition and shows strong influence of Mithridates’ coinage. The bust of Artemis is different from the earlier civic Artemis-imagery, being modeled after the Pontic bronze and silver coins. The grazing stag is a complete oddity in the local coinage: it is a borrowing from the contemporary gold and silver Mithridatic issues struck at Pergamum.41 This silver issue is paralleled by several issues of bronze coins, known before but not fully understood until recently.42 If the suggested interpretation is correct,43 it could only mean that Magnesia on the Maeander joined the Pontic king willingly, and publicly –––––––– 36 Cic. Pro Flacc. 57. 37 Plut. Praec. ger. reipub. 14 alludes to these preparations. 38 Ph. Kinns, A New Didrachm of Magnesia on the Maeander, The Numismatic Chronicle, 166, 2006, pp. 41-47. 39 R. Ashton, The Use of Cistoforic Weight-Standard Outside the Pergamene Kingdom, in: P. Thonemann (ed.), Attalid Asia Minor: Money, International Relations and the State, Oxford, 2013, p. 250, n. 17. 40 The same city official is mentioned in I.Magnesia 100b, 43-44 (=Syll. 3 695b, 91-92): ἡρέθη ἐπὶ τῆς ἀναγραφῆς | τῶν ψηφισμάτων Μαιάνδριος Ἀρτεμιδώρου (the end of the 2nd century BC). 41 Ph. Kinns, op. cit., pp. 41, 46-47 (cf. pl. 13). 42 Ibid., pp. 42-46. 43 It is accepted as such by P. Thonemann, The Meander Valley: A Historical Geography from Antiquity to Byzantium, Cambridge, 2011, p. 39. N. Vujčić, A city that resisted Mithridates, ŽAnt 67 (2017) 61–70 69 celebrated the decision. Not only does Magnesia ad Sipylum now seem to be “the more likely option” as the stronghold of resistance,44 but the latest evidence also serves to round up what was already a compelling case for the Lydian city

A much less "factional" account of Eupator is Philip Matyszak "Mithradates the Great". I do wish there was a book that told of which cities and such were pro Mithradates or pro Rome and for how long. When you look up Mithrades's tetradrachms most say Pergamon Mint even those that are impossible. Remember Fimbria whipped Mithradates Junior, and turfed Senior out of Pergamon and pursued him so he had to be rescued by pirates whilst Sulla was still in Central Greece. I think...a time line of where and when the central characters where would be a great help too In other words, a fully expanded book on Eupator! eg, How did the cities of Crete react to the toppling of Roman influence? Arados, Tenedos, Ephesos, Pergamon, Athens.Chios. Mytilene , Egypt, Bithynia, Cappadocia etc etc etc....

L' historie des guerres Mithradatiques vue la par monnaise....Francois de Callatay 1997 You should find our coin type in there and other information on Mithradatic coin types of the Mithradatic wars. Essential reading, even if it's in French! Sadly I cannot read French, so most of it was beyond me.

Artemis and Demeter on the hunt for Persephone. Demeter with long torch. "Where in the Hades is that damn girl?" Athens New Style Tetradrachm c 71/0 BC A real nice bit of artwork.

A F. de Luca has done a die study of Antigonid coins in the Greek Numismatical museum. On academia.edu F. De Luca, The tetradrachms of Perseus of Macedonia, Italian and English text, Associazione culturale Italia Numismatica, Editrice Diana, 2021

@Rand My wish: To know the reasons and the story. I guess and hope if someone's done the work and are confident of it that they have published it somewhere and the bidders are sometime willing to share their insights!. That is how numismatics advances, not by secretly squirreling info away like a.....self satisfied squirrel! We all advance on the shoulders of others, there are people who don't reciprocate and live in their own private world as there are thieves and rogues and vagabonds, shysters everywhere. All my sources are public and my crazy writings are also!