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  1. This is the apogee of the early, early NewStyles. That is ones without any controls. This is Thompson # 11 symbol caps of the Dioscuri. I bought it cheap as chips. Like many others this is in excellent condition. Well struck, well centred and both sides artistic and thought out. would go for about 5X what I paid for it! What a noble Athena, look at that owl and its posture perching on that amphoralike I own this! 2 clear monograms although who these people were is unknowable! No wonder why they eventually moved on from monograms to their abbreviated names! Enjoy, I do. Athens New Style tetradrachm 154/3 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 34.5mm 16.72g Thompson issue 11 Thompson catalogue : Obs 60 : Rev (not in plates)/ NEW? Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 complex magistrates monograms in both fields RF symbol : Caps of Dioscuri All within a surrounding olive wreath
  2. Yes Donna that is true. And when I asked 2 members of Forum A C to ask the moderators to help, they were knocked back by the lesser admin. It just wasn't the head Honcho only but his spirit of pointless aggressiveness had infected them also Thanks Donna, I still read your stuff on CT!
  3. Thompson # 9 A stunning example of symbol Trophy. It is interesting that the 2 magistrates monograms appear on one side only. What a charming elfin-like Athena .Notice that the owls legs are spaced not upright beneath the owl as on earlier coins. Lovely balanced and depicted reverse. Athens New Style Tetradrachm 156/5 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 32mm 16.82gm Thompson issue 9 Thompson catalogue: Obs 43 : Rev: (not in plates)/ NEW? Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 Complex magistrates monograms in right field LF symbol: Trophy All surrounded by olive wreath
  4. Thompson #10 . Nice obverse despite the wear. A nice reverse, bit of some flat striking on the owl Symbol Grain ear Athens New Style Tetradrachm 155/4 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 33mm 17.2gm Thompson issue 10 Thompson catalogue: Obs 50 : Rev: (not in plates)/ NEW? Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 Complex magistrates monograms in both fields LF symbol: Ear of Grain All surrounded by olive wreath ar
  5. Thompson # 8. The Athena is not charming somewhat Acromalgic , Very sparse ornamentation on bowl. What a weird Owl ! An excellent example .From a hoard that appeared on eBay some years ago. Oh yes Pegasos has a lions' swishy tail on this obverse example. Athens New Style Tetradrachm 157/6 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet Lions tailed pegasos type 33.8 mm 16.32gm Thompson issue 8 Thompson catalogue: 34b ? ( not in plates) Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 magistrates monograms in both fields RF symbol :Nike presenting Wreath All surrounded by olive wreath
  6. Thompson # 7 . An example without a Rudder symbol? Has there been some smoothing to the fields that eliminated the Rudder symbol which should be in the bottom left field where the amphora base is. I cannot see any sign of it. I bought it from a Ma shops German dealer who mentioned nothing! All the same this is the one with an excellent artistic Athena harking back to an earlier issue. Also she is wearing an aegis, the last time it appears on the NewStyle coinage T27 but not 27 a the Thompson plate 27a is not this reverse, so I still don't know if the missing rudder is due to artifice. The two examples of this obverse die in Svoronos both have faint rudders but they aren't a reverse die match to this coin . The mystery remains! 6 obverses known to Thompson but many more came up in hoards,. Athens New Style Tetradrachm 158/7 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos in tri-form helmet wearing aegis 15 55g 32.5mm Thompson issue 7 Thompson catalogue : Obs 27 : Rev NEW (no rudder) Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 magistrates monograms : NAUKRATES ARI.... NO RUDDER SYMBOL BELOW LF MONOGRAM EXE graffito below left centre olive wreath All within surrounding olive wreath
  7. Wow that's a bit crowded Yep T579 But in quite good condition any chance for a guess at a amphora letter Great catch. I have no drachms or hemidrachms , just big flasy tetradrachms. A fairly large issue having lots of tets and drachms
  8. A bit of double trouble on the obverse R2 Symbol Club Thompson #6 Athens New Style Tetradrachm 159/8 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 16.94gm 36mm Thompson Issue 6 Thompson catalogue : Obs 22 : Rev NEW Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora LF monogram RF monogram Π ω 2 magistrates RF symbol : Club All within a surrounding olive wreath
  9. An old coin of mine waiting to be sold by Roma soon
  10. Once again Macedonian HELMET surmounted by a star c 140,s BC, when things were really happening in Macedonia. The NewStyle should be viewed as a total Roman proxy coin, see my latest spec on academia.edu under John Arnold Nisbet called "the NewStyle problem"
  11. That this bronze unit of Kyme has the same pose as the silver tetradrachms , ie prancing horse with one raised forelock, vase in front, maybe it is the same general time as the tetradrachms? Is there any hoard evidence for the bronzes? I once had a silver tetradrachm but sold it via Roma for about double what I paid for it. Those price hikes had passed on to the Athens NewStyles. Hence its ebay or the highway! It was luicky that when I seriously started to collect NewStyles there were loads of hoards sold by Lanz on ebay and others. Now fresh NewStyles are scarce to the market
  12. Welcome to Thompson #4. This issue has two coin types one without and one with a symbol-Cornucopia. Both these coins have the same obverse die Athens New Style Tetradrachm 161/0 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 32mm 16.66g Thompson issue 4 Thompson catalogue : Obs 13 : Rev: 3c (not in plates)/ NEW? Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 magistrates monograms in both fields RF symbol: Cornucopia All within a surrounding olive wreath Athens New Style Tetradrachm 161/0 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 34.2mm 16.97g Thompson issue 4 Thompson catalogue : Obs 13 : Rev (not in plates)/ NEW? Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora 2 magistrates monograms in both fields No symbol type All within a surrounding olive wreath
  13. These actually are the complete collection of the Thompson early catalogue all 29 examples of the 28 issues. The key to the mystery is Thompson #4 which has 2 coins for the one issue...one with a symbol and one without any symbol. My two have the same obverse . not seen as separate issues by Thompson or others since. As far as I know this is the only complete collection in Private hands, and only the ANS the complete collection and maybe one in Turkey and one in Greece. The 6th coin R5 This 2 Palms is one of only 4 known and the only one in private hands. One of the 2 Palms in a museum has only 1 Palm! Athens New Style Tetradrachm 160/59 BC Obv: Athena right in tri-form helmet Thompson issue 5 16.97 Gm 32 mm Thompson Catalogue: Obs: New : Rev: New Rev:ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on amphora 2 Magistrates monograms beside each a single palm. Symbol: 2 Palms All surrounded by an olive wreath
  14. My NewStyles a number have been sold since then and one or two added!
  15. The Athens NewStyle coins , particularly the tetradrachm, are my passion. To many it appears they are boring. They however are packed with information, some of it waiting to be unravelled. A magnificent 2 volume book "The New Style Silver coinage of Athens" NSSCA, ANS 10 1961 is the bedrock. It has faults especially the chronology which gave rise to lots of revisions and investigations, but now the start date is "fixed" at c164 BC and the finish c 42 BC. Thompson's internal sequencing has mostly stood the test of time and I have been trying bring this to the fore. I write simple, often speculative articles on my academia.edu under my full name, John Arnold Nisbet and some resources too. I love the NewStyle and want it and the related Stephanophore's to thrive. The picture shows a coin from Thompson middle catalogue, symbol "Grapes" Thoneman called it "Frankly a mess" Well I don't agree.
  16. Hoe about a Macedonian HELMET and Star. NewStyle, Athens 140's BC
  17. Really great to be back look out for NewStyle Chat. But I have only a few coins to obtain now!
  18. Back from the dead

  19. I LOVE NEWSTYLES

  20. Thompson #2 5 obverses ( I identified a new one unknown to the auction house, seller and Thompson) 13 reverses R4 The above is c164/3 BC this is the next issue c163/2 BC Despite the damage a nice example. The only Athens NewStyle with 2 symbols!
  21. Oh I've got about 60 ATHENS NEWSTYLE TETRADRACHMS maybe one at a time, In chronological . nice to be on a sensible site This is Thompson # 1 Obverse 3 New Reverse of 8 known examples with 8 different reverses, my research says so. R4
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