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Friedrich Christian (born 5th Sept 1722 in Dresden, died 17th December 1763 in Dresden.

I like to archive a footnote for some of my coins, it gives the coin a feeling of history in your hands.

Born Friedrich Christian Leopold Johann Georg Franz Xaver in the Family castle in Dresden he was the 3rd son and a sickly child from a very early age. The early deaths of his two older brothers, Frederick Augustus (1721), who was stillborn, and Joseph Augustus (1728), made him the heir to the throne. When his father died, on 5 October 1763, Frederick Christian succeeded him as Elector.

At 13 years of age

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His mother tried repeatedly to induce him to take monastic vows and renounce his succession rights in favour of his younger brothers, but he refused.

As Elector of Saxony

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One of his first acts as Elector was the dismissal of the extremely unpopular prime minister, the Count Heinrich von Bruhl who had plunged Saxony into crisis, first with his failed economic policy, but particularly by his catastrophic foreign policy, which caused the Electorate to become involved in the 7 Years War.

Unfortunately it was to be a very short period as Prince Elector as he died from smallpox on 17th December 1763, aged 41. Subsequently this Conventionsthaler, struck in Dresden, was a single year issue. No mintage figures exist for these .833 silver standard circulation coins.

Please post your Saxony coinage, thalers and interesting historical text

 
Type Standard circulation coin
Year 1763
Value 4⁄3 Saxon thaler = 1 Conventionsthaler = ⅒ Cologne Mark
Currency Thaler (1493-1805)
Composition Silver (.833)
Weight 28.8 g
Diameter 43 mm
Shape Round
Orientation Medal alignment ↑↑
Demonetized Yes
Number N# 32813
References

KM# 962, Dav GT II# 2677, Schnee# 1052, Buck# 14                                                                                                       

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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I like Saxony, but I only have minors:

(Edit:  if you add them all together, it's almost a thaler.  1/24 + 1/6 + 1/24 + 1/48 + 2/3 = 45/48.  Not sure how to add in the 2 pfennige)

1/24 Thaler 1763 Saxony Albertine Frederick Christian1374809074_124Thaler1763SaxonyAlbertineFrederickChristian.jpg.48aa0d28f4bd8e1fc9a39150725d39c9.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/6 Thaler 17631483157733_Saxony-Albertine16Thaler1763.jpeg.488174c2aec9283af6fc53e95dccda7b.jpeg

Saxony 1/24 Thaler 16241730949437_Saxony124Thaler1624.jpg.f43c7ce9ab20f974f78b47a9c3fc1b9e.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/48 Thaler 1807 Friedrich August I468955374_Saxony-Albertine148Thaler1807FriedrichAugustI.jpg.4a75c70a8075d86d33c81a2d3fad04f8.jpg

2/3 Thaler Saxony 1767 (ex-mount)1679203598_23ThalerSaxony1767.jpeg.720a4cd5f7bb3eedcd8975c205da5761.jpeg

Saxony-Albertine 1864 B 2 Pfennige1714517957_Saxony-Albertine1864B2Pfennige.jpg.5bcf283db067c6d8d99db0e717ed4a09.jpg

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6 hours ago, The Eidolon said:

I like Saxony, but I only have minors:

(Edit:  if you add them all together, it's almost a thaler.  1/24 + 1/6 + 1/24 + 1/48 + 2/3 = 45/48.  Not sure how to add in the 2 pfennige)

1/24 Thaler 1763 Saxony Albertine Frederick Christian1374809074_124Thaler1763SaxonyAlbertineFrederickChristian.jpg.48aa0d28f4bd8e1fc9a39150725d39c9.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/6 Thaler 17631483157733_Saxony-Albertine16Thaler1763.jpeg.488174c2aec9283af6fc53e95dccda7b.jpeg

Saxony 1/24 Thaler 16241730949437_Saxony124Thaler1624.jpg.f43c7ce9ab20f974f78b47a9c3fc1b9e.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/48 Thaler 1807 Friedrich August I468955374_Saxony-Albertine148Thaler1807FriedrichAugustI.jpg.4a75c70a8075d86d33c81a2d3fad04f8.jpg

2/3 Thaler Saxony 1767 (ex-mount)1679203598_23ThalerSaxony1767.jpeg.720a4cd5f7bb3eedcd8975c205da5761.jpeg

Saxony-Albertine 1864 B 2 Pfennige1714517957_Saxony-Albertine1864B2Pfennige.jpg.5bcf283db067c6d8d99db0e717ed4a09.jpg

Great selection, thanks for sharing

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Leopold I, "Hogmouth" (1657 - 1705 A.D.)
AR Thaler
O: LEOPOLDVS D G RO I S A GER HV BO REX; Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
R: ARCHIDVX AVS DVX BVR MAR MOR CO TY; 1692 Crowned imperial double-headed eagle, holding sword and sceptre; crowned arms on breast within Order of the Golden Fleece; K-B flanking tail.
Kremnitz (Hungary) Mint
47mm
28.55g
Davenport 3262; KM 214.3

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Awesome! Sadly I'am still missing a coin of Friedrich Christian in my collection but here a coin from the long reign of his son:

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Electorate of Saxony - 2/3 Taler (Vikariatstaler) - 1792 - Elector Friedrich August III.

And here a later Taler:

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Kingdom of Saxony - Taler - 1870 - King Johann

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Nice coins!

I need to go back a bit further.

Saxony, Frederick III (Frederick the Wise), John, George, Gulden (Klappmützentaler), Mint mark cross (1512–1523), Annaberg.

Davenport 9709

28.9 grams

While quite rare, this coin does have smoothed fields and traces of a mount removed at 12 o'clock.

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In 1521 Fredrick III provided protection for Martin Luther following the issuance of the Edict of Worms by the Catholic Church, which authorized Luther's arrest or murder.

 

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