DANTE Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 4mm. small enough? Not a beauty, but I like that the monogram spells the denomination: Next: another silver fraction: 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted June 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 This is what I believe to be the smallest standardized coin of the ancient world. These are tiny (5mm wide) bracteate, aka paper thin, silver coins struck to a standardized weight of only 0.03 grams. issued around the Gulf of Martaban, present-day Myanmar/Burma, by Mon city-states. Can anyone show me a lower weight coin with a standardized weight? I have a group of 10 of these coins, together they are only 0.29 grams! Mon city-states of the Gulf of Martaban, Myanmar/Burma Circa 600-850 AD Silver bracteate | 0.03 grams | 5mm wide Obv: Flower with four round petals, a center dimple, and light stem Rev: Repousse effect of the front Next: coin that is a record holder, or otherwise interesting and notable 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted June 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) "Next: another silver fraction:" Wow, super lil' examples, coin-fellas => here is a tiny one from my ex-collection ... IONIA, Ephesos, AR Tetartemorion (below) Circa 500-420 BC Diameter: 5 x 8 mm Weight: 0.17 grams Obverse: Bee Reverse: Head of eagle right within incuse square Reference: Karwiese Series IV; SNG Kayhan 126–34 Other: 12h … toned, Exceptional for issue Ex-stevex6 Next => a coin with an different animal on each side EDIT ... "rats, I was slow on the draw" ... please ignore my slow arse Edited June 7, 2022 by Steve 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) edit: . -> 12 minutes ago, Roman Collector said: Aren't we on "Next: coin that is a record holder, or otherwise interesting and notable"? Edited June 7, 2022 by Limes not so fast! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted June 7, 2022 · Patron Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Limes said: horses and dolphin: next: showing a building/monument that still (partly) stands today Aren't we on "Next: coin that is a record holder, or otherwise interesting and notable"? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted June 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Aren't we on "Next: coin that is a record holder, or otherwise interesting and notable"? Yes ... sorry, I screwed-up Please don't kick me out, yet Edited June 7, 2022 by Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve said: Yes ... sorry, I screwed-up Please don't kick me out, yet Hope I didnt mess the game up. Don't kick me out too! 🤣 13 minutes ago, Roman Collector said: Aren't we on "Next: coin that is a record holder, or otherwise interesting and notable"? Ok, thanks! Edited! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisimo Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 This type is a record holder in that it holds the record for oldest denarius and is notable in that it is the first denarius and was struck during the Punic War to fight Hannibal. Next: A beautiful example of a common coin design 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted June 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Ex Leu 17. A marvelous example of a generally dreadfully produced type. This is one of two coins with a special tag in my trays, telling my wife to put it on the cover of the catalogue if I die suddenly. (My current avatar at the other place is the other.) It's Crawford 335/3f, struck in 96 BC by C. Poblicius Malleolus. Readers I suppose may say, well sure, it's very nice, but your favorite? Really? Anyone familiar with just how dreadful this type usually is will get it though. Normally I hate descriptions like "finest known," because how can we ever know that, but this time I think it's apt. I can't imagine a better example of the type. For years I had admired this coin in the Leu 17 catalogue (lot 276), where it was my favorite coin in the whole wonderful Nicholas Collection. When it appeared as lot 395 in NFA XXVII (the Roberto Russo Collection, though not named as such in the catalogue,) I knew I had to have it. I gave myself a firm limit of $2500 +10% commission, which I really thought would be enough. I was in the room; this was one of the few auctions my wife attended with me. After early bidders dropped out, it came down to me and a gaggle of Spaniards a row in front of us. I was careful to hit my $2500 limit. The Spaniards spent a couple of minutes whispering together and one of them finally raised his hand at $2600. I said oh shit; young and innocent days when we still had a mortgage and I'd never spent anywhere near this much on a single coin. My wife looked at me and said, you really want this, don't you? I nodded. She sort of pushed my hand a little; I nodded. I think it was just momentum that got my hand all the way up. The Spaniards said oh shit in Spanish and started whispering again. Finally they disgustedly said no. Phew... Little did they realize that I was done. Even a cut bid would've won it. If they had bid again and I'd lost this coin, I'd still be kicking myself from now until Tuesday. (Wait, it is Tuesday!) Next: Anything relating to voting. Edited June 7, 2022 by Phil Davis 13 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumbly Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Phil Davis said: This is one of two coins with a special tag in my trays, telling my wife to put it on the cover of the catalogue if I die suddenly. Hopefully we won't be seeing it on the cover of a catalogue anytime soon! ROMAN REPUBLIC. L. Cassius Longinus. AR Denarius. 3.94g, 19.5mm. Rome mint, 63 BC. Crawford 413/1; Sydenham 935. O: Veiled and draped bust of Vesta left, C before, kylix behind. R: Togate voter standing left, dropping tablet inscribed V (for VTI ROGAS, "As you ask") into cista, LONGIN.III.V downwards to right. Next: colourful toning 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, Phil Davis said: Ex Leu 17. A marvelous example of a generally dreadfully produced type. This is one of two coins with a special tag in my trays, telling my wife to put it on the cover of the catalogue if I die suddenly. (My current avatar at the other place is the other.) It's Crawford 335/3f, struck in 96 BC by C. Poblicius Malleolus. Readers I suppose may say, well sure, it's very nice, but your favorite? Really? Anyone familiar with just how dreadful this type usually is will get it though. Normally I hate descriptions like "finest known," because how can we ever know that, but this time I think it's apt. I can't imagine a better example of the type. For years I had admired this coin in the Leu 17 catalogue (lot 276), where it was my favorite coin in the whole wonderful Nicholas Collection. When it appeared as lot 395 in NFA XXVII (the Roberto Russo Collection, though not named as such in the catalogue,) I knew I had to have it. I gave myself a firm limit of $2500 +10% commission, which I really thought would be enough. I was in the room; this was one of the few auctions my wife attended with me. After early bidders dropped out, it came down to me and a gaggle of Spaniards a row in front of us. I was careful to hit my $2500 limit. The Spaniards spent a couple of minutes whispering together and one of them finally raised his hand at $2600. I said oh shit; young and innocent days when we still had a mortgage and I'd never spent anywhere near this much on a single coin. My wife looked at me and said, you really want this, don't you? I nodded. She sort of pushed my hand a little; I nodded. I think it was just momentum that got my hand all the way up. The Spaniards said oh shit in Spanish and started whispering again. Finally they disgustedly said no. Phew... Little did they realize that I was done. Even a cut bid would've won it. If they had bid again and I'd lost this coin, I'd still be kicking myself from now until Tuesday. (Wait, it is Tuesday!) Next: Anything relating to voting. Yummy Denarius transition coin, Phil! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted June 7, 2022 · Patron Share Posted June 7, 2022 Here's some colorful toning! Red, white, and blue! Faustina I, AD 138-140. Roman AR denarius, 3.13 g, 18.3 mm, 5 h. Rome, AD 138-139. Obv: FAVSTINA AVG ANTONINI AVG P P, bare-headed and draped bust, right. Rev: CONCORDIA AVG, Concordia standing left, holding patera and double cornucopiae, and resting l. arm on column. Refs: RIC 329; BMCRE 42; Cohen 153; Strack 395; RCV --; CRE 92. Next: Concordia. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restitutor Posted June 7, 2022 · Administrator Share Posted June 7, 2022 Here's my first post showing off one of my coins now that I understand how to use a macro lens! Severina; Rome, Antoninianus, 3.84g. RIC-3, Göbl-132s3 (66 spec.), Paris-175. Obv: SEVERINA AVG Bust draped r. on crescent, wearing stephane. Rx: CONCO - RDIA AVGG Aurelian and Severina clasping hands, ΓXXIR in exergue (officina 3). From the Philip Ashton Collection, acquired from Alex Malloy, March 2001. Up next: Hadrian! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentinian Posted June 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Hadrian: From Ephesos, a cistophorus. 28 mm. 10.46 grams. DIANA EPHESIA, cult statue, arms supported. Stags either side. Next: A coin from Ephesos Edited June 7, 2022 by Valentinian 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted June 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 Maybe the saddest Ephesos. I'm still not 100% sure of the ID but I'm confident it is Ephesos with that bee. Greek city of Ephesos, Ionia Circa 400-300 BC AE13 | 1.83 grams | 13mm wide Obv: Turreted female head left (?) Rev: Bee center, E-Φ Ref: BMC 68 Next: another 'unsure' attribution, but an attribution nonetheless 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamnaskires Posted June 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, TuckHard said: I'm still not 100% sure of the ID You may be right in thinking Ephesos, but the hairstyle on the back of the obverse head, as well as the neckline, seem very close to the Zeus of Melitaia, Thessaly issues with bee reverses. Also, that little "hook", left reverse, resembles the end of the paperclip-like wings on the Melitaia coins. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=ae+left+bee+zeus+-right+melitaia&category=1-2&lot=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1¤cy=usd&order=0 Edited June 7, 2022 by Kamnaskires 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted June 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Kamnaskires said: You may be right in thinking Ephesos, but the hairstyle on the back of the obverse head, as well as the neckline, seem very close to the Zeus of Melitaia, Thessaly issues with bee reverses. Also, that little "hook", left reverse, resembles the end of the paperclip-like wings on the Melitaia coins. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=ae+left+bee+zeus+-right+melitaia&category=1-2&lot=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1¤cy=usd&order=0 Oh that looks perfectly spot on! This example especially seems to be a match, thank you very much! I guess that would revert it back to @Valentinian's Ephesos request, or at least that is open in addition to the "unsure" attribution (more like incorrect!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordianAppreciator101 Posted June 7, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Tetricus with Pax Avg Reverse I got for 5 cents at a flea market. Really really sad but a Tetricus is a Tetricus. Next: Another Peace on the reverse Edited June 7, 2022 by GordianAppreciator101 Uppercase Peace 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 Octavian Ionia, Ephesus Cistophorus (ca. 28 BC). Obv.: IMP CAESAR DIVI F COS VI LIBERTATIS P R VINDEX, Laureate head right. Rev.: PAX, Pax standing left, holding caduceus; to right, serpent rising left from altar; all within wreath. Ag, 11.51g, 26mm Ref.: RIC² 476, RPC I 2203, CRI 433. Next: Cistophor 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted June 7, 2022 · Patron Share Posted June 7, 2022 My only Cistophorus: Antony and Octavia. AR cistophorus, 25.6 mm, 11.71 gm. Ephesus, 39 BCE. Obv: M ANTONINVS IMP COS DESIG ITER ET TERT, Jugate heads of Marcus Antonius and Octavia to right; he wears ivy wreath. Rev: III VIR RPC, Cista mystica surmounted by figure of Bacchus, standing to left, holding cantharus and leaning on thyrsus; on either side, coiled serpent. Refs: SNG Cop. 408; SNG von Aulock 6555; Franke KZR 472; RSC 3; Sydenham 1198; RPC 2202; Sear 1513; BMCRR East 135-137. Next: Bacchus or Dionysus. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 Next: Silenos or mask of him 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted June 7, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 7, 2022 Next: A two-headed coin 8 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 Orodes III, 2nd Century A.D., AE Drachm 3.5 grams Obv: Bearded bust facing left, wearing a diademed tiara ornamented with anchor. Pellet and crescent above an anchor to the right. Rev: Radiate and draped bust of Artemis right. Greek legend around bust retrograde van't Haaff 16.1.1-3A Attributed by BobL Next.....Retrograde legend 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restitutor Posted June 7, 2022 · Administrator Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Valentinian said: Hadrian: From Ephesos, a cistophorus. 28 mm. 10.46 grams. DIANA EPHESIA, cult statue, arms supported. Stags either side. Next: A coin from Ephesos That may be the angriest portrait of Hadrian I've ever seen 🙈 I wonder if someone told him his Tivoli villa was running behind schedule... 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted June 7, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Syracuse retrograde: Just gimme a sec to pick the next topic... Oh, and since we missed Ephesos! (Great score btw @TuckHard, much better than Ephesos!) (387-295 BC. Aissides, magistrate, 2.02 g, 14 mm. Ε-Φ, bee. [ΑΙΣΣΙΔΗΣ] stag kneeling left, head right, astragalos above Oh, and superb photo with your new macro lens, @Restitutor!! 😍 Next: headless in some way Edited June 7, 2022 by Severus Alexander 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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