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Hi All, Let's not forget Alexandria. QUIETUS (ca Sep 260 - ca Jun 261 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 01 (ca Sep 260 - ca Jun 261 CE) Bi Tetradrachm Broucheion Collection Obv: Quietus laureate cuirased bust seen from behind, facing right. Legend: AKTΦIOVNKOYHTOCЄCЄB. Dotted border. Rev: Eagle wings open standing facing left with wreath in beak. In left field: LA. Dotted border. Refs: Emmett-3788.01; Geissen 3013-14; Dattari-5382; Milne-4057/4058; Curtis-1566; SNG Copenhagen-832; BMC-2305 var (legend); Mionnet-3407-9; Bern-247, pl vii Provenance: Ex Steven M Huston (1996 List 60, Lot# 50); Ex R.S. Speck Collection. - Broucheion

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Hi Amanda, It looks like it’s Armenian. - Broucheion

Hi All, I think this is the book @Deinomenid mentioned. https://www.ma-shops.com/jacquier/item.php?id=4935 https://www.deamoneta.com/en/shop/item/d-andrea-magna-graecian-sicilian-counterfeit-coins - Broucheion

Hi @Amanda, You might get some basic orientation by looking through guides #37 (Medieval Coins) and #38 (Post Medieval Coins) at the British Archeology Jobs & Resorces website. These are free downloads at http://www.bajr.org/BAJRread/BAJRGuides.asp . 37. Medieval Coins 38. Post Medieval Coins - Broucheion

Hi all, Maybe the obverse of a two part button? - Broucheion

Hi All, It's a new category: the notorious provenance. I'm sure there will always be someone to buy it. Witness https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/18/adolf-hitler-telephone-auction-second-world-war https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/20/hitlers-phone-sold-for-almost-250k-at-us-auction.html - Broucheion

Hi All, A small gem. BERENIKE II (UNDER PTOLEMY III: 246-222 BCE) UNCERTAIN MINT 32: PERHAPS SELEUCIA IN PIERIA, ca the Third Syrian War Tetartai (Gold 1/16th Mnaieon = Hemidrachm) Size: 10 mm Weight: 1.6 g Axis: 11:00 Dies: O09/R13 Broucheion Collection P-1994-11-29.001 Obv: Berenike, veiled bust facing right wearing diademed stephane and lotus scepter of Arsinoe Philadelphus. Dotted border. Rev: Single cornucopia tied with a filleted diadem. On left: [ΒΑΣΙΛΗΣ]ΣΗΣ, on right: ΒΕΡΕΝΑΚΗ[Σ]. Dotted border not visible. Refs: CPE-806; Svoronos 983, pl xxxv, 15-16 [5 listed]. Sng Copenhagen-170 for type (silver trihemiobol); BMC 06.060, #015; Sear-7831. Note: Sewell-Lasiter die study (2020) dies O09/R13, also showing globules. Only sixteen examples noted by van Driessche (van Driessche 983). Prov: George Beach, Auction #22 (1994) Lot #3 From CPE-806 entry: "The small gold coins of this issue confuse or deliberately blend the iconography of Berenice II with that of Arsinoe Philadelphus, portraying the younger queen with the stephane and lotus scepter of her predecessor. A similar mixing of the two queens’ attributes can be observed on the mnaieia of Uncertain Mint 33 (CPE 809-811), and details of the diadems binding their cornuacopiae were exchanged at Alexandria early in the reign (see CPE 733-734). On the first of the tetartai, CPE 806, the queen's name and title are transposed from their usual positions, as on the gold eighth mnaieion of Ptolemy III (CPE 805), on a tetradrachm portraying Ptolemy III (CPE 781), and on the reverse of bronzes of Berenice II from Heraclea by the Sea or Seleucia in Pieria (CPE B452-B459). On the gold fractions and on the bronzes the diadem tied round the cornucopiae is rendered in similar fashion. As noted above, CPE 805 & 806 are probably companion pieces, perhaps struck at Seleucia in Pieria soon after its surrender to Ptolemy III. In contrast, CPE 807 displays the straight diadem ends and legend configuration characteristic of the Alexandrian coinage of Berenice, as well as a control letter. These differences may reflect a later correction of the anomalies of CPE 806. The tetarte, defined as one-sixteenth of the mnaieion, had been struck previously at Alexandria under Ptolemy I as one of the novel denominations of his currency reform of 294 (see CPE 129, 134, 139, 144, 149, 155, 172). It failed to establish itself as an essential denomination of the Ptolemaic currency system and is attested mainly as a unit of weight used in connection with jewelry. Its revival at the beginning of Euergetes’ reign seems to reflect the same innovative tendency as the revival of the Attic standard in Egypt for the coinage of Berenice II." - Broucheion

Hi All, Since eclipses concern Helios and Selene (the Sun and Moon), here they are on a Julia Mamea Drachm of Alexandria Egypt. Sold to me as a "19th century imitation of a Matidia Drachm of Egypt or an imitation Paduan Æ." JULIA MAMEA (223 - MAR 235 CE, Under Severus Alexander) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 10 (230/231 CE) Æ Drachm Size: 32 mm Weight: 21.2 g Axis: 00:00 Broucheion Collection R-1999-09-14.001 Obv: Julia Mamea bust facing right. Legend: IOYMAMAI[AC]Є[B]MHTCЄB[KCTPA]. Border not visible Rev: Helios and Selene busts facing right. Helios with radiate crown and aegis, Selene with crescent moon tiara. Palm frond in right field; in left field: LI. Border not visible. Refs: Emmett-3248.10 (R5); Milne-3038; Geissen-1880 var: reverse; Dattari-4553? (Bad image); Otherwise unlisted. See Geissen-1880 for similar reverse of Antoninus Pius (Year unreadable). - Broucheion

Hi @Amarmur, Also see RPC Online: https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/2391 - Broucheion

Hi All, My largest, from a few years back. Sorry for the photo quality. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/savior-but-for-whom.348734/page-2#post-3883369 - Broucheion

Hi All, Just a thought ... - Broucheion

Hi All, PTOLEMY VI PHILOMETOR (FIRST SOLE REIGN 180-170 BCE) UNCERTAIN MINT: GREECE, ARSINOE-METHANA?, before 169 BCE Unknown Æ Denomination Size: 19 mm Weight: 5.77 g Die Axis: 11:30 Broucheion Collection P-2002-01-18.002 Obv: Ptolemy VI youthful portrait head facing right. Countermark: KPA monogram in rectangle. Dotted border not visible. Centration depression. Rev: Eagle on thunderbolt facing left, wings open, head turned towards right. In left field: dolphin entwined on a rod (or anchor?). Legend: [ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ] and dotted border not visible. Centration depression. Refs: CPE-II B0654 temp; Svoronos 1487 [1 listed, Berlin]; Svoronos 1488, pl xlviii, 21-23 (with countermark) [5 listed]. Note 1: Countermark (on obverse): KPA monogram in rectangular punch. Note 2 From CC Lorber "The Royal portrait on Ptolemaic coinage", (EUROS, 2014) : "Somewhat better attested is a royal portrait bronze of Ptolemy VI, showing the king as a child or young adolescent, without divine attributes. The reverse features the standard Ptolemaic eagle accompanied by a dolphin symbol in the left field. This issue often bears a countermark on the obverse, in the form of a monogram involving the letters KPA. Poole attributed the coin emission to a coastal town of Coele Syria and Phoenicia and the countermark to Cyprus. Svoronos associated the bronze with the portrait tetradrachm of Ptolemy VI struck at Ptolemais near the end of his reign (Svoronos 1486), despite the evident disparity in the age of the king in the two portraits. Rejecting an association of the tetradrachm and the bronze, Kyrieleis opined that the neck truncation of the bronze shows Seleucid influence, which would imply an origin in Coele Syria and Phoenicia in the last five years of Philometor's reign. Hazzard tentatively proposed a Cypriot mint and dated the portrait bronze to Philometor's second sole reign. Frank L. Kovacs reported a specimen from a Thessalian hoard containing mainly bronzes of the Thessalian Confederacy and suggested that the countermark could stand for Crannon, or alternatively for a moneyer of the confederacy who signed with a very similar monogram. Once again we encounter a provenance that implies a Greek mint, and once again the only candidate for a royal issue is Arsinoe-Methana." Next: More dolphins - Broucheion

Hi @Amarmur, Per Lorber it’s CPE-222 = Svoronos 362, pl. xi, 8 [8 listed]. Ptolemy I, minted sometime after 294 BCE. Uncertain Mint 9 on Cyprus (Salamis or Citium). - Broucheion

Hi @robinjojo, From today's eBay. Slabbing would be more than the button's worth. - Broucheion

Hi All, After hearing the talk, I tried to add my overstikes, some of which were posted to CT a while back. See https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-the-coin-theme-game-ancient-edition-post-‘em-if-you-got-‘em.300099/page-291#post-4606075 as just one example from my collection. That one is noted in CPE volume 1. That's when I too noticed there is no way to contact the database owners to add to the body of knowledge. - Broucheion

Hi All, Link: Thunderbolt. PTOLEMY V EPIPHANES (205/204-180 BCE) CYPRUS, PAPHOS, probably after c 198 BCE AE Chalkous Size: 10x11 mm Weight: 0.95 g Die Axis: 12:30 Broucheion Collection P-2014-09-21.001 Obv: Thunderbolt with wings. No centration depression. Dotted border. Rev: Εagle on thunderbolt facing left, wings closed, no cornucopia on shoulder; inscription ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ. No centration depression. Refs: Lorber CPE-B606 temp; Svoronos-1246, pl xl, 28 [2 listed]; BMC UNLISTED in Vol 6. Notes: Attribution of this variety to Ptolemy V is based on the thunderbolt, a type employed on the reverse of tetradrachms announcing his assumption of the epithet Epiphanes in 199/198 BCE. - Broucheion

Hi All, Obv: Ptolemy I head facing right, wearing diadem. Plain border. Rev: Εagle on thunderbolt facing left, wings spread. In left field: four-letter legend YHDH in Aramaic script. Plain border. Refs: Gitler & Lorber, Group 7, #16 [129 listed]; TJC 32. From Lorber CPE-I: "Ths issue of silver fractions of Judah reflect the introduction of Ptolemy's portrait to the silver coinage Alexandria. H Gitler & C Lorber (2006) proposed a relative chronology based on die axes, relying on the hypothesis that the Jerusalem mint progressed gradually from loose dies to fixed dies. According to their classification, CPE 254, with the legend YHDH, represents the latest coinage because its die axes are overwhelmingly vertical. A die study by J-P Fontanille found obverse links between Ptolemy/eagle quarter obols with the legend forms YHD and YHDH which suggests that the latter may have appeared earlier than assumed by Gitler & Lorber. Alternatively, CPE 252 may have been revived for a time under Ptolemy II." Next: A coin of Jerusalem - Broucheion

Hi All, The Table of Contents is on Academia.edu at https://www.academia.edu/2503261/M_10_G_Depeyrot_Le_numéraire_mérovingien_lâge_de_lor_I_Introduction_1998_200_p_ISBN_90_74623_15_8 - Broucheion

Hi @Julius Germanicus, Viator cave. - Broucheion

Hi All, Just to close the circle, I found that the tetradrachm was pictured with an eBay watermark and described as "The item "PTOLEMY IV & Arsinoe 219BC Ascalon Silver Greek Tetradrachm NGC ChXF Fine Style" is in sale since Thursday, March 21, 2019. This item is in the category "Coins & Paper Money\Coins\ Ancient\Greek (450 BC-100 AD)". The seller is "victoram" and is located in Forest Hills, New York." [NB: victorram is Sergey Nechayev Ancient Coins.] https://tetradrachmancientsilver.com/en/ptolemy_iv_arsinoe_219bc_ascalon_silver_greek_tetradrachm_ngc_chxf_fine_style.html#PTOLEMY%20IV%20&%20Arsinoe%20219BC%20Ascalon%20Silver%20Greek%20Tetradrachm%20NGC%20ChXF%20Fine%20Style The coin was also featured on Nechayev's vCoins site (I assume at the same time as eBay), but that seller is no longer active there so his store was removed. The Internet Archive didn't capture that page so only my PDF capture is proof it was also displayed there. My next task is to find the sale that got the coin to Moussaieff. The History I have after Mossaieff's death is: ∎ The New York Sale Auction 45 (8 Jan 2019 at NYINC) ∎ Gorny & Mosch Auction 261, Lot 437 (4 Mar 2019) ∎ eBay (victorram) & vCoins (Sergey Nechayev Ancient Coins) - 21 Mar 2019 ∎ Nomos Auction 21, Lot 267 (21 Nov 2020) - Broucheion

Hi All, Seen on X (nee Twitter). - Broucheion

Hi @Curtis JJ, I have a coin from the Moussaief collection but I have not confirmed it yet. Which coin catalog(s) should I be looking at? The coin was bought from Nomos and posted at CT ( here ) in 2020. The history before that gives the Mousaief background (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=cpe+941&category=1-2&lot=&date_from=&date_to=&thesaurus=1&images=1&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&currency=usd&order=0) . [Edit to add that it was also Ex New York Sale 48 (12-14 Jan 2020), Lot #160 (unsold)]

Hi All, Mine was posted on the other list a few years back. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/enough.368271/#post-4943175 - Broucheion

Hi All, Link: Cleopatra Thea & Grypus CLEOPATRA THEA & ANTIOCHUS VIII GRYPUS (COREGENCY: 125-121 BCE) UNCERTAIN MINT 115: PROB NORTHERN SYRIA: DAMASCUS? 122-121 BCE (?) Æ Denomination B Size: 21 mm Weight: 9.28 g Die Axis: 12:30 Broucheion Collection S-2008-01-12.001 Obv: Jugate busts facing right: Cleopatra Thea, vieled, diademmed and weearing stephane, with Antiochus VIII, diademmed. No legend. Dotted border. Rev: Nike standing, facing left holding wreath. Legend in four lines: ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑΣ ΘΕΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ. In lower left field: palm branch. Plain border. Refs: a) SNG Israel-2467-2469; b) Babelon 1365; BMC 01 8; c) Babelon 1364; d) Babalon 1362-1363; Houghton 586 var (monogram); HGC 9, 1190;CSE Coll A Houghton pt II-0715 var (monogram). An example of this type is known to have been overstruck by Tigranes II, whose overstrikes are mostly over issues of Damascus. Usual commercial sources are: Lebanon & Jerusalem. Provenance: Ex-Arthur Houghton Collection. Sold by him on eBay. Notes: From CSE Coll A Houghton pt II: "Cleopatra Thea initially seized power in her own name in 125, but later in the same year she raised her teenaged son Antiochus VIII to be her co-ruler after slaying Antiochus' elder brother Seleucus when he attempted to succeed Demetrius II as sole Seleucid monarch. With military support from Ptolemy VIII Euergetes, who had become disenchanted with his creature, Alexander II Zabinas, Cleopatra Thea and Antiochus VIII crushed the pretender in 122. This victory expanded the authority from their base at Ptolemais (Ake) to include some parts of Phoenicia and Coele Syria, Syria Seleucis, and Cilicia. However, the relationship between mother and son was strained and ended in violence when Cleopatra was forced to drink poison. It is said that she had initially prepared the deadly cup for her son, but it is just as possible that Antiochus VIII killed her for reasons other than self-defence. He is known to have had a keen interest in poisons, which he occasionally expressed in poetry." - Broucheion