Coinmaster Posted April 27 · Member Share Posted April 27 Hi all, Did you see this incredible collection? Many coins are for sale at this moment (and I'm hoping to get at least one). http://thedioscuricollection.com/index_en.php Is the owner present at this forum? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted April 27 · Supporter Share Posted April 27 Where are the coins for sale please? It says nonprofit, noncommercial on the pages I checked. Re owner, you are presumably looking for a Catalan. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordoba Posted April 27 · Member Share Posted April 27 2 hours ago, Deinomenid said: Where are the coins for sale please? It says nonprofit, noncommercial on the pages I checked. Re owner, you are presumably looking for a Catalan. https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted April 27 · Member Share Posted April 27 fantastic collection, I think I 'll bid on some republican coins I don t have; Thanks. I don't understand you can sell such a collection, to make it you need years and money. So, keep it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salomons Cat Posted April 27 · Member Share Posted April 27 (edited) 18 hours ago, Coinmaster said: Hi all, Did you see this incredible collection? Many coins are for sale at this moment (and I'm hoping to get at least one). http://thedioscuricollection.com/index_en.php Is the owner present at this forum? Would you mind deleting this thread? I had hoped that this collection wouldn’t get too much attention and that I could buy 1 or 2 coins… 😂 Just kidding. Whoever built this collection certainly deserves that it gets some recognition. I don't think that the owner is an active member of this forum. I have never seen any of the coins from this collection here. Edited April 28 by Salomons Cat 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted April 28 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted April 28 Wow. That may be the best collection of Roman Republican coins I've ever seen together in a single present-day auction. In terms of the quality of the individual coins as much as the collection's comprehensiveness. I very much enjoyed scrolling through it, even if there are only a couple of coins that I can even think of bidding on given the starting prices. And probably none that I would have a realistic chance of winning! 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted April 30 · Member Author Share Posted April 30 (edited) Also the coins from the Empire are insane. 😍 Edited April 30 by Coinmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted Saturday at 04:27 PM · Member Share Posted Saturday at 04:27 PM I hope to show the very few coins I've bought as soon as possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted Sunday at 05:46 PM · Member Share Posted Sunday at 05:46 PM That sale has a whopping 605 lots, and every one of them is EF or close thereto. All silver or gold. Simply. Amazing. The NAC catalog says the seller is anonymous, but maintains a website www.thedioscuricollection.com. Worth a look! The starting prices align with the condition. What I don't know is whether the hammer comes down at NAC at multiples of the estimate. I've never watched, much less bid, a NAC auction. Here's one rarity: Gordian I denarius, with a cringe-worthy starting price of CHF 4,000 = US$ 4,400. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted Sunday at 06:10 PM · Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 06:10 PM 15 minutes ago, Anaximander said: seller is anonymous But Catalan and presumably filthy rich. If this is a billionaire, based on value, there aren't that many of them there, but Thyssen's widow springs to mind, and she's on all sorts of relevant boards. Seems an obvious choice were it not for the fact that she should donate them given that. Also got to be a megalomaniacal billionaire as the Credits page is empty. She is also an art dealer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted Sunday at 06:13 PM · Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 06:13 PM ..i seen this in one of the auction houses i lQQked at . for Medici coins...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted Tuesday at 05:29 PM · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted Tuesday at 05:29 PM Anyone successful here? I did win nine coins, about as expected. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted Tuesday at 06:10 PM · Supporter Share Posted Tuesday at 06:10 PM Not me! Just placing a bid was something of a novelty. I was interested in one of the Trajan denarii that just sold, but as expected it hammered for about double what I bid. The prices seem pretty strong. The coins are utterly magnificent though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM · Supporter Share Posted Tuesday at 06:20 PM 48 minutes ago, Phil Davis said: Anyone successful here? I did win nine coins, about as expected. No - I threw in six proxy bids a long time ago and when I checked, one hammered at my bid, but I don't seem to have won it and one more at one bid above mine and that's it 😞 Anyway, I've spent a lot on non-coin things recently and a couple more trips coming up, so maybe for the best - though I'd have liked all of them 😄 Congrats on your haul! ATB, Aidan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted Tuesday at 06:58 PM · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted Tuesday at 06:58 PM 35 minutes ago, akeady said: No - I threw in six proxy bids a long time ago and when I checked, one hammered at my bid, but I don't seem to have won it and one more at one bid above mine and that's it 😞 Anyway, I've spent a lot on non-coin things recently and a couple more trips coming up, so maybe for the best - though I'd have liked all of them 😄 Congrats on your haul! ATB, Aidan. Thanks Aidan. I've only bought one coin all year before today and who knows what the rest of the year will bring, so I didn't want to hold back. I've heard you can't take it with you... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientJoe Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM · Member Share Posted Tuesday at 07:28 PM 1 hour ago, Phil Davis said: Anyone successful here? I did win nine coins, about as expected. I ordinarily wait to post until I receive the coins to avoid taunting the shipping gods but feel like sharing anyway. I was outbid on several but happy to get two for under my max, a pleasant surprise in a fairly-strong-but-generally-not-stupid sale: https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378555 and https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378532 10 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM 16 minutes ago, AncientJoe said: I ordinarily wait to post until I receive the coins to avoid taunting the shipping gods but feel like sharing anyway. I was outbid on several but happy to get two for under my max, a pleasant surprise in a fairly-strong-but-generally-not-stupid sale: https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378555 and https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378532 Nicely done Joe! Both of those iconic Augustus types are absolutely as good as they come! I take it you weren't the underbidder on the 65k Octavian? Lol, I'm sure you weren't. I rarely find super strong prices on genuinely great coins inexplicable--and of course it IS a truly great coin--but that one has me shaking my head... I dunno, for 65k I think I'd insist on full borders! I'm on my phone on the porch and don't have my list in front of me (and can't easily post links), but I'm most pleased to have won lot 273, "my" Erato. It seemed since I sort of wrote the "book" on these I really should have one. I didn't expect to win it really; I was literally sitting on my hand after my last bid. I don't think even the most malign shipping gods would dare to eat the entire bulk shipment to NAC USA. (Now I've really done it...) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cazador Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM · Member Share Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Phil Davis said: Anyone successful here? I did win nine coins, about as expected. These had extremely high prices, no? But congrats on successful wins anyhow Edited Tuesday at 08:00 PM by El Cazador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted Tuesday at 08:17 PM · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted Tuesday at 08:17 PM 8 minutes ago, El Cazador said: These had extremely high prices, no? But congrats on successful wins anyhow Prices in roughly the first half of the sale were solid certainly, but pretty much as expected. The hammer on the later stuff was mixed. Some prices on "popular" later types were indeed surprisingly strong, for excellent examples which were imo definitely not unimprovable. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted Tuesday at 09:07 PM · Supporter Share Posted Tuesday at 09:07 PM 1 hour ago, AncientJoe said: I ordinarily wait to post until I receive the coins to avoid taunting the shipping gods but feel like sharing anyway. I was outbid on several but happy to get two for under my max, a pleasant surprise in a fairly-strong-but-generally-not-stupid sale: https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378555 and https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378532 Congratulations! I watched the AEGYPTO sell - it's one of my favorite types for Augustus. Both coins are beautiful and worthy of your collection. I hope we get to see your photos of them sometime! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientJoe Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM · Member Share Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Phil Davis said: Nicely done Joe! Both of those iconic Augustus types are absolutely as good as they come! I take it you weren't the underbidder on the 65k Octavian? Lol, I'm sure you weren't. I rarely find super strong prices on genuinely great coins inexplicable--and of course it IS a truly great coin--but that one has me shaking my head... I dunno, for 65k I think I'd insist on full borders! I'm on my phone on the porch and don't have my list in front of me (and can't easily post links), but I'm most pleased to have won lot 273, "my" Erato. It seemed since I sort of wrote the "book" on these I really should have one. I didn't expect to win it really; I was literally sitting on my hand after my last bid. I don't think even the most malign shipping gods would dare to eat the entire bulk shipment to NAC USA. (Now I've really done it...) Thanks Phil! And I wasn't although I had briefly considered that Octavian (I know the buyer but I wouldn't be surprised if Gasvoda bid strong on it considering how much he loved it in the description when his collection sold). The obverse style is beautiful but it has a few too many issues to justify anywhere near that level in my eyes. My main miss, 158, the ex-BM Social War, was disappointing to watch go by but also not cheap at that level. Prior to the auction, I managed to convince myself 419 was juuuuust worth the open and then watched it soar to 3x... I don't mind when I'm not remotely the underbidder! Your Muse is excellent and certainly all around better than the legacy attributed 271. Based on the video, that is going to look absolutely stunning in-hand. Congrats! Edited Tuesday at 09:32 PM by AncientJoe 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted Tuesday at 10:14 PM · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted Tuesday at 10:14 PM I decided not to bid at all -- I was afraid I would get carried away! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabes Posted yesterday at 06:06 AM · Member Share Posted yesterday at 06:06 AM (edited) Congrats Phil and Joe, those are some beautiful coins. I wonder what the other eight coins are Phil? My main miss was the 20 asses, a stunning coin but it went beyond my budget. On the bright side, and to my surprise, I ended the day with exactly what I wanted going in. https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378142 https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378262 https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nac/browse?a=4514&l=5378322 (This also marks my first posting on this forum. Newbie here 🙂) Edited yesterday at 08:20 AM by Jabes 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted yesterday at 07:50 AM · Member Author Share Posted yesterday at 07:50 AM The auction prices were truly absurd, often ranging from 3 to 10 times the regular market value in my opinion. The auction room seemed to be filled with millionaires, bidding against each other with gusto, which was bizarre. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Atherton Posted yesterday at 08:02 AM · Member Share Posted yesterday at 08:02 AM 13 hours ago, Phil Davis said: I've heard you can't take it with you... That's just a rumour! Seriously, congrats on your new wins Phil! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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