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10 hours ago, CPK said:

A beautiful coin that looked oddly familiar...until I checked my biddr watch list! 😄 Thought that looked like an Artemide photo. Nice score! I didn't bid on it, but I ended up winning another coin from that auction - somewhat unexpectedly as I anticipated being outbid during the live session.

Busted🥲 Yes pretty nice auction this time! What did you win mate?

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I have 3 different portrets from Valerianus :

IMP P LIC VALERIANO P F AVG

VICTORIA GERMANIC

Bust seen from rear

Victory standing left, holding wreath, right hand rests on shield, at foot ,captive

RIC Va 264, Mediolanumval5.jpg.43ca3fd0814d99c406016a26db339a97.jpg

IMP C LIC VALERIANUS P F AVG

VICTORIA AVGG

Victory standing left, resting on shield and holding palm

RIC Va 128, Romeval6.jpg.1c6193f4c8d14b88dee6b79dd7566f87.jpg

IMP C LIC VALERIANUS AVG

FIDES MILITUM

Fides standing left, holding two ensigns

RIC Va 89, Romeval7.jpg.7b49424333681527bbd359fb9c6c8381.jpg

 

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6 minutes ago, mc9 said:

I have 3 different portrets from Valerianus :

IMP P LIC VALERIANO P F AVG

VICTORIA GERMANIC

Bust seen from rear

Victory standing left, holding wreath, right hand rests on shield, at foot ,captive

RIC Va 264, Mediolanumval5.jpg.43ca3fd0814d99c406016a26db339a97.jpg

IMP C LIC VALERIANUS P F AVG

VICTORIA AVGG

Victory standing left, resting on shield and holding palm

RIC Va 128, Romeval6.jpg.1c6193f4c8d14b88dee6b79dd7566f87.jpg

IMP C LIC VALERIANUS AVG

FIDES MILITUM

Fides standing left, holding two ensigns

RIC Va 89, Romeval7.jpg.7b49424333681527bbd359fb9c6c8381.jpg

 

Damn, I struggle to find one decent valerian and you come up with 3 handsome lads.

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The quality of Valerian's portraits differs greatly from mint to mint and from series to series. As the posts by @Finn235 , @Sulla80 and @Octavius above illustrate, the "APOLINI PROPVG" reverse, for example, often comes with nicer than usual portraits.

Below is my example. I paid through the nose for it but don't regret the purchase.

RomValerianIAntoninianApollo.png.d40dd03045edb87a1e1da0b81446faf1.png

Valerian I, Roman Empire, AR antoninianus, 253/4 AD, Rome mint. Obv: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG; bust of Valerian, radiate, draped, cuirassed, r. Rev: APOLINI PROPVG; Apollo, nude except for cloak flying behind, standing r., drawing bow. 22mm, 3,58. Ref: RIC V Valerian 74; MIR 36, 44d.

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This is my only example with a halfway decent portrait is this provincial coin, rather crude and with somewhat rough surfaces.  I wonder what was in those urns on the reverse.

Valerian I, Æ 30, Anazarbus, Cilicia. CY 272 (253/4 AD) .

)RPC X Online Unassigned ID 60270 (this coin cited)

17.85 grams

D-CameraValerianI30mmAnazarbusCilicia.CY272(253-4AD)RPCXOnlineUnassignedID60270(thiscoincited)17.85g1-14-24.jpg.e252b0e6029eb6422eb34bdd035814f6.jpg

 

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On 3/9/2024 at 3:42 PM, Roman Collector said:

Maybe he really looked like this! 😂

ValerianIPIETASAVGGAntoninianus.jpg.f8c9e871c14ff15cad4716512fe2caa7.jpg

What is a good portrait? If I were a lowly diecutter asked to create an image of the most powerfuL (and usually vainest) man in the world I think I would err on the side of handsome rather than ugly. I agree with romancollector, Val baby was probably what we would call in these parts a bit of a minger. Mine was maybe the best the guy in Samosata could do... val.jpg.15d5b6e85800958051626f584c953b08.jpg

 

That said, perhaps in this case he wasn't the most powerfuL, Shapur was? 

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