Steppenfool Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 (edited) Worn or less intricately engraved reverse dies seem to be more prevalent, particularly in the later Empire. I remember reading that it was deduced that reverse dies were replaced much less often than the obverse ones, due to the image of the Emperor being the most important message of the coin. I want to see your examples where the reverse has somehow been struck stronger or better withstood the test of time! Here's mine! Magnentius AE3. AD 350-353. DN MAGNEN-TIVS PF AVG, bare-headed, draped, cuirassed bust right, A behind bust / GLORIA ROMANORVM, emperor on horseback right, holding shield on left arm, about to throw a spear at a bare-headed enemy in front of the horse, shield and broken spear beneath the horse. Mintmark TRS crescent. RIC VIII Trier 271; Cohen 20; Sear 18798. Edited August 7 by Steppenfool 18 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAg47 Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 (edited) With these two coins, it's the opposite. The obverse is much better than the reverse. Alexander III Life time AE half-unit, uncertain Macedonian mint. Obv- Apollo Rev- Prancing horse bellow and AΛEΞAN above. 336-323 BC. Price 356 Caracalla as Caesar Spei Perpertvae Edited August 7 by JayAg47 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted August 7 · Supporter Share Posted August 7 Almost all of mine have reverses that are either the same or worse, and most don't have good reverses at all, particularly in the C3 🤣 This is the nearest I get, and it might be down to wear rather than the die.Valerian I Antoninianus, 258-259Colonia Agrippina. Silver, 23mm, 3.49g. Radiate draped and cuirassed bust right; VALERIANVS P F AVG. Virtus-Soldier standing left holding Victory and spear; VIRTVS-AVGG (RIC V, 24 Var). From the Botley (Hampshire) Hoard 1994 of 1,395 coins, mostly radiates, deposited in 274. Portable Antiquities Scheme: IARCH-569EED. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 A Byzantine follis of Anastasius I or Justin I which I encountered in an HJB pick bin would win. The obverse was purely green fur from bronze disease, while the reverse was intact. I don't know why I remember that coin, 30 years later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenfool Posted August 7 · Member Author Share Posted August 7 (edited) On this one, the reverse seems to have been less exposed to corrosive forces than the obverse! The lion skin is beautifully detailed. Maximinus II AE Nummus. IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, laureate head right / HERCVLI-VICTORI, Hercules Farnese standing right, right hand behind back, leaning on club covered by lion's skin with left; Β in left field. Mintmark SMN. Edited August 7 by Steppenfool 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted August 7 · Supporter Share Posted August 7 I assume corrosive elements in the ground of which attacked the obverse and left the reverse alone 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 I love the reverse on this Gallienus, the obverse is a bit more worn and grainy. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted August 7 · Supporter Share Posted August 7 No doubt the reverse is far better than the obverse on that one Q 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotwheelsearl Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 Gallienus's mint workers apparently loved to beat the death out of the reverse dies. On the other hand, sometimes they didn't. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 All the devices are there but the reverse seemed to fare much better. Or was it cleaned? Troas, Alexandreia. Caracalla (198-217). Apollo Smintheus Obv: MAVR[.] ANTONINVS. Laureate head right. Rev: COL ALEXAND AVG. Statue of Apollo Smintheus right. Bellinger A292. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordoba Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 Diodotos doesn't have hair anymore, but the reverse is still pretty nice to me Greco-Baktrian Kingdom. Diodotos II, circa 235-225 BC. Tetradrachm (Silver, 29 mm, 16.21 g, 7 h) Obv: Diademed bust to right.Rev: Zeus Bremetes advancing left, brandishing aegis and thunderbolt;above eagle at inner left, monogram.ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΔΙΟΔΟΤΟΥReference: Bopearachchi 6F; HGC 12, 22; Holt Series D, Group 8. The obverse is pretty corroded, but the reverse is quite nice on this Artuqids of Mardin. Qutb al-Din Il-Ghazi II, AD 1176-1184. Dirham (Bronze, 34 mm, 14.94 g, 11 h), Mardin Obv: Two Byzantine-style diademed and draped facing busts, resembling the coins of Heraclius and his son; AH date in margin. Rev: Name of Abbasid caliph, partial mint formula and name and pedigree of Qutb al-Din Il-Ghazi II in five lines across field and in margins. al-dirham mal'un man yu'ayyaruhu, "cursed is he who abuses this dirham" Reference: Spengler & Sayles 32; Album 1828.2. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted August 7 · Supporter Share Posted August 7 Interesting thread. It's usually the other way around. This Magnentius has a nicer reverse: The reverse on this Constantine is a good deal sharper than the obverse. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted August 8 · Member Share Posted August 8 (edited) Quite a big difference in this Trebonianus Gallus tetradrachm ... or this Hadrian Alexandrian tetradrachm This Julian double maiorina does NOT have a better reverse in terms of condition ... but the obverse is so ugly because the (unofficial) engraver was not the most talented guy from this tribe Unfortunate centering/die wear on an Aspendos stater obverse paired with a more decent reverse Constantiniana Dafne - the obverse is not that bad, but the reverse is a different league Poor strike on both obverse and reverse. But the obverse strike is that bad that Tatius looks bald. The reverse has the left half poorly struck, right half perfectly struck This needs no comments Edited August 8 by ambr0zie 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted August 9 · Supporter Share Posted August 9 (edited) This is always my example of bad obverse, good reverse - Augustus denarius, RIC 187a: And the other way around - Augustus denarius, RIC 199: No prizes for guessing which sides are facing up in the tray 😄 ATB, Aidan. Edited August 9 by akeady Photos mangled 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry G Posted August 9 · Member Share Posted August 9 This one's currently in the "eBay pile" but I think it fits the brief! Constantine I Follis - MARTI PATRI CONSERVATORI [Trier] 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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