Do you have coins with interesting provenance? Bonus points for accompanying plates!

[quercus]

Recent events have shown the importance of provenance. There is special emphasis on coins with provenance before 1970, when the UNESCO treaty on the Ownership of Cultural Property was adopted. Please use this thread to discuss any coins you may have with robust provenance. 

[Deinomenid]

Oh boy! Provenance is a lively  topic at the moment!

r numis is a great source to double-check. This one's a 1906 Bruder Egger, with catalogs from the 1932 sales linked below.

Sicily, Syracuse, silver Tetradrachm, c. 415-405 BC, charioteer, holding kentron and reins, driving fast quadriga left, Nike, flying above, crowning charioteer, rev. ΣVPAKOΣION, retrograde, head of Arethusa left, surrounded by four dolphins, 17.33g, 11h (Tudeer 20d, V8/R13, this coin; SNG ANS 257 these dies; SNG Lockett 960 these dies; Jameson 790 these dies).

Ex Brüder Egger Auction, 10 December 1906, lot 187 Ex Adolph Cahn Auction 75, 30 May 1932, lot 196 (I hope!)

 

Coin -

https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cahn1932_05_30bd1/0024/image,info

 

 

Image -

https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cahn1932_05_30bd1/0122/image,info

 

 

 

 

[Spaniard]

This coin has my best provenance at the moment...

Galerius Maximianus as Caesar AE Follis minted 297 AD.

11,46 g. 25 mm.

Obv: GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES. Laureate Head right

Rev: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI/ (crescent)/ D// ANT. Genius standing left, holding cornucopiae and patera.

RIC VI 49b Antioch

From an old collection formed in the 1920s. Ex Münzhandlung Kallai, Vienna.

[red_spork]

Here's one, the first Roman silver coin, purchased from a private seller advertising it on a Facebook group, no provenance listed, but I was able to find a 1958 provenance to the Count Luigi Brunacci collection for it

Roman Republic AR Didrachm(7.27g, 6h), anonymous, circa 326-300 BC, Neapolis mint. Helmeted head of bearded Mars left; behind, oak-spray / Horse's head right on base; behind, corn-ear; on base, ROMANO. Crawford 13/1; Burnett 5(Ob/R2); BMCRR Romano-Campanian 1; Sydenham 1

Privately purchased from M.V. Collection on 15 September 2022, ex Count Luigi Brunacci Collection, P & P Santamaria 24-28 February 1958, lot 1

 

 

Another one purchased at Aureo & Calico, no provenance listed but found a provenance to the Martini Collection, sold by Ratto

Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(2.90g). Anonymous, second Falcata series, 206-195 B.C., Rome mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right; border of dots / Victory standing right, crowning trophy; falcata between. In exergue, ROMA. Line border. Crawford 120/1

Ex Aureo & Calico 375, 20 October 2021, lot 111, ex Joseph Martini Collection, Rodolfo Ratto Lugano 24 February 1930, lot 151

 

This one was sold by NAC with the 1952 Signorelli provenance, then later by CNG who crucially omitted the Signorelli provenance(and it sold at a nice discount to the NAC price). I found the note in the NAC listing while doing my due diligence before the CNG sale, verified it was in fact the Signorelli coin and was very happy to win it for a few increments under my max:

Roman Republic AR Denarius(18.5mm, 4.02 g, 9h), Faustus Cornelius Sulla, moneyer, 56 B.C., Rome mint. Head of young Hercules right, wearing lion skin headdress; behind, SC and monogram, downwards / Globe surrounded by three small wreaths and one large wreath; apluster to lower left, stalk of grain to lower right. Crawford 426/4a; Sydenham 882; Cornelia 61; RBW 1529; Banti Cornelia 86/5(this coin).

Ex CNG Electronic Auction 525 session 1, 19 October 2022, lot 789, ex JS collection, ex Numismatica Ars Classica Spring Sale 2021, 10 May 2021, lot 1081, ex Dr Angelo Signorelli collection, part II, P.P. Santamaria, 4 June 1952, lot 329

 

Sorry about the plate pic, I need to grab a better one.

[red_spork]

Here are a couple more with provenances I particularly like. First a nice denarius of Antony ex Rashleigh collection, Glendining 1953

Roman Imperatorial period AR Denarius(3.82g), Marcus Antonius, Summer 38 B.C., Athens. Marcus, veiled and wearing the priestly robes of an augur, standing right, holding lituus in right hand; M•ANTONIVS•M•F•M•N•AVGVR•I(MP)•TE(RT) around clockwise. Border of dots / Radiate head of Sol right; III•VIR•R•P•C•COS•DESIG•ITER•ET•TERT around clockwise. Border of dots. Sear HCRI 267; Crawford 533/2; BMCRR East 141; Banti Marcus Antonius 57/3(this coin)

Purchased from Numismatica Varesina, 8 July 2022, ex VL Nummus Auction 12, 15 September 2019, lot 87, ex Giuseppe De Falco FPL 51, December 1960, 272, ex John Cosmo Stuart Rashleigh Collection, Part I, Glendining, 14th-16th January 1953, lot 427

 

 

And another from the Signorelli collection that my Faustus Cornelius Sulla denarius above came from. I've verified the provenance but don't seem to have a picture of the plate at hand. Will have to grab that later:

 

Roman Imperatorial period AR quinarius(14.5mm., 1.69g), C Caesar Octavianus and Marcus Antonius, military mint with Octavian in Gaul, late 29 BC. Diademed and veiled head of Concordia right, III•VIR R•P•C around counterclockwise/Two clasped hands holding caduceus, M•ANTON C•CAESAR around counterclockwise. Crawford 529/4b; Sear HCRI 304; Banti Marcus Antonius 112/3(this coin)

"From a European Collection", Naville Numismatics Live Auction 64, 21 March 2021, lot 470, ex Dr Angelo Signorelli collection, part II, P.P. Santamaria, 4 June 1952, lot 853

[El Cazador]

4 hours ago, quercus said:

Recent events have shown the importance of provenance. There is special emphasis on coins with provenance before 1970, when the UNESCO treaty on the Ownership of Cultural Property was adopted. Please use this thread to discuss any coins you may have with robust provenance. 

Disagree, 99% of coins have no provenances and we are doing ok

[Alegandron]

Potamikon


Campania, Neopolis
275-250 BCE
AE 18, 4.99g
Obv: Laureate Head of Apollo, NEOPOLITON (in Greek), Theta at r.
Rev: Achelous advancing r, crowned by flying Nike, IOTA SIGMA under Achelous
Ref: Sambon 663; HN Italy 589; SNG ANS 474; SNG Copenhage - ;

@Nicholas Molinari :
"Your first coin is a plate coin in Potamikon, number 343 in our catalog so Sambon 663; Taliercio IIIa.16; MSP I, 343, featuring Acheloios Sebethos as a man-faced bull. Taliercio cited three examples of this type, so yours is the fourth known of that particular variety."
"According to my notes, ACR E-Auction 28 lot 12."


Dattari Collection

@Sulla80 graciously pointed out that mine was a plate coin!


Egypt, Alexandria.
In the name of Livia, wife of Augustus Diobol
circa 1-2 (year 31),
Æ 23.5mm., 7.46g.
Draped bust r. Rev. Athena standing l., holding Nike and leaning on shield;
L-ΛA.
Dattari-Savio Pl. 3, 60 (this coin). RPC pag. 692, 5 (this coin cited).
Very rare. Nice brown-green tone. Very Fine
From the Dattari collection.
Naville Comments: In our opinion is correct the interpretation of Dattari on this coin and the date shown on the Rev. is L-ΛA and not LMA as suggested from RPC.
ex Dattari-Savio Pl. 3 60-this coin RPC page 692-5-this coin
RARE
Ex: Naville Numismatics

 

 

[Jay GT4]

My 2 oldest provenances come from the Reusing/Schürer collection. 

Reusing was a German portrait painter of the early 20th Century whose portraits included Richard Strauss, Igor Strawinsky, Max Planck, and Albert Einstein. After Reusing's death his nephew Paul Schürer inherited and curated the collection.

IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XI CENS POT P P
Laureate head right with Aegis

SC
Mars advancing left with Victory and trophy

Rome, 85 CE

13.67g

RIC 387 (C)

Holed in antiquity and plugged in the late 19th century?

Ex-Manfred Olding 2019 n 184; Ex-Sammlung Heynen 1976;Ex-Paul Schürer (1890-1976); Ex-Fritz Reusing (1874-1956)

Comes with old tag probably from Heynen or Schürer. Olding tag incorrectly attributed to RIC 420 (different ending to legend)

DIVVS AVGVSTVS VESPASIANVS
Laureate head right

EX SC
Victory advancing left placing shield on trophy; below, Judaea seated left

Rome 80-81 CE, after the deification of Vespasian

2.91g

RIC 364 (C)

Ex-Manfred Olding 2019 no 180;Ex-Paul Schürer (1890-1976); Ex-Fritz Reusing (1874-1956)with handwritten tag.

 

 

[kapphnwn]

Ernst Justus Haeberlin 1847-1925  Author of a number of Numismatic works and principally interested in the cast bronze coinage of the Roman Republic His collection was sold in an auction held by A Cahn & A Hess Auction 83 held on July 17 1933 . My coin is Lot 33 

Roman Republic Ar Didrachm 241-235 BC Obv Helmeted head of beardless Mars right. Rv Head of bridled horse right behind sickle   Crawford 25/1 RBW 38 6.49 grms 19 mm

This is an image of the coin as seen in the auction

And the man himself 

[Roman Collector]

This one of Julia Domna was formerly owned by Clarence Bement (1843-1923). It appears in Ars Classica VIII, 1924, Bement Collection, lot 1184. Here's the listing from that auction:


Julia Domna, AD 193-217
Roman orichalcum dupondius; 10.61 gm, 24.2 mm
Rome, issue 6, AD 195
Obv: IVLIA DOMNA AVG, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: FECVNDITAS, Fecunditas enthroned right, nursing one child, second child stands before her.
Refs: RIC 844; BMCRE 494; Cohen 43; Hill 126; RCV 6639
Notes: Ex Ars Classica VIII, 1924, Bement Collection, lot 1184. Die-match to BMCRE-494, pl. 21.4.

Here's the photo and listing in the sale:




And this one was owned by Henry Clay Lindgren:


Annia Faustina, 3rd wife of Elagabalus, Augusta, 221 CE.
Isinda, Pisidia; AE 25.0 mm, 8.55 gm
Obv: ANNIAN FAVCTEINAN, Dr. bust of Faustina r.
Rev: Confronted heads of Serapis and Isis, in field, E-Delta (yr. 4 ).
Refs: Ex Lindgren I A1322A (Plate coin); von Aulock, Pisidia I 833.

Here is the info from Lindgren I:

[Deinomenid]

This coin  is a plate in the original Boehringer work on Syracuse tets  (see below) and was also sold  by Egger in 1912,

The plate shows only the reverse (head) side as the system Boehringer used was based on die links so the  obverse was in this case superfluous..

 

Boehringer 562
Silver tetradrachm, 17.04 g, 27 mm. Issue of ca. 450 BC.
Obv. Charioteer driving quadriga right, Nike flying above right, crowning horses, ketos right in exergue. Rev. diademed head of Arethusa right, four dolphins around.
Boehringer, Syrakus, 562 (V284/R387 - this coin listed and the reverse illustrated on plate 21).
Theodor Prowe Collection, Egger XI, 5/2/1912, lot 416.

 

 

[ominus1]

[Harry G]

My Gallienus TIA AVG TIA AVG error is the plate coin in MIR

 

And my error antoninianus of Probus from Lugdunum mint, with TEMPR FELICI reverse.

Ex. Linchmere Hoard (1924).

Unfortunately no other plates or pictures of the coin in the find - the only evidence of provenance is in the original auction listing.

https://www.lawrences.co.uk/sales/fine-art-sales/fc270521/view-lot/888/

The table of the contents of the Linchmere hoard does does not note the spelling error, and neither does the auction listing. 

[AETHER]

My most interesting and best pedigree would have to be a Alexander tet, Price;123 that was sold by B.Max Mehl in 1942, I was even able to find the catalog it was sold in;

 

And some die matches (my opinion);

http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.28676

http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.28677

http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.28646

http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.28658

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by AETHER

[DonnaML]

Here's one from 1966:

Valentinian I, AV Solidus, 365 AD [Sear, Depeyrot] (reigned 364-375 AD), Antioch Mint, 3rd Officina. Obv. Rosette-diademed (with square & round rosettes separated by ovoid pearls), draped, & cuirassed bust right, D N VALENTINI-ANVS P F AVG [Dominus Noster Valentinianus Pius Felix Augustus] / Rev. Valentinian, in military attire, standing facing, head right, holding labarum or vexillum ornamented with “T” [uneven/Tau cross?] in right hand* and, in outstretched left hand, Victory standing left on globe, holding up crowning wreath towards emperor, RESTITVTOR – REIPVBLICAE around; in exergue, ANTΓ [Antioch Mint, 3rd Officina**].  RIC IX (1951) Antioch 2b (var. unlisted) ***; Sear RCV V 19267 at p. 294 (rosette-diademed, with no cross in the reverse left field, no stars or dots in the reverse exergue, and known from Officina 3, as well as Officina 10) (citing Depeyrot); Depeyrot II Antioch 23/1 Valentinian I (p. 281) (examples with this mint-mark, without stars or dots, & monogrammed cross in labarum rather than Chi-Ro, known from Officinas 3 & 10) (citing 1966 Maison Vinchon sale of this coin as the one example from 3rd Officina, with one other from 10th Officina) [Depeyrot, George., Les Monnaies d'Or de Constantin II à Zenon (337-491) (Wetteren 1996)]. 21.2 mm., 4.44 g. Purchased from Odysseus Numismatique [Julien Cougnard], Montpellier, France, Feb. 2022, “from an old Parisian collection”; ex Maison Vinchon Auction Sale, Mon. 25 April 1966, Hotel Drouot, Paris, Lot 257 (sold for 780 French francs, = $159.16 in 1966 U.S. dollars). [Footnotes omitted.]

Entry and photo for this coin in 1966 Maison Vinchon catalogue; I think the photo is probably of a plaster cast:

And one from 1960:

Eastern Roman Empire, Arcadius (son of Theodosius I and older brother of Honorius), 383-408 AD, AV Solidus 397-402 AD, Constantinople Mint (9th Officina). Obv. Helmeted and cuirassed bust facing three-quarters right, holding spear over right shoulder and shield on left arm bearing image of horseman right; D N ARCADI-VS P F AVG / Rev. Helmeted Constantinopolis seated facing on throne, head right, with right knee bare and right foot resting on prow, holding long scepter with right hand and, on left hand, Victory with wreath standing on globe; CONCORDI-A AVGG Θ [Theta, for 9th Officina]; in exergue, CONOB [for Constantinople Mint]. RIC X 7 at. p. 240 (1994); Dumberton Oaks Catalogue, Late Roman 207-217 (217 = 9th Officina) and Plate 8 [P. Griessen. & M. Mays, Catalogue of Late Roman Coins in the Dumbarton Oaks Collection, etc. (1992)]; Sear RCV V 20706 (ill. p. 431) (1994). 20 mm., 4.44 g. Purchased from Dr. Busso Peus Nachf., Frankfurt, Germany, 1 April 2021. Ex Auktionen Münzhandlung Sonntag Auktion 33 Lot 36 (23.11. 2020); ex Auktion 116 München Münzhandlung Karl Kreß [Kress] (Otto Helbing Nachfolger), Lot 729 (28.10.1960).

Unfortunately, Lot 729 wasn't illustrated in the original catalog, but I don't really have any doubt that it's the same specimen:

A detail of Lot 729:

I'll post my oldest provenance separately.
 

 

 

[DonnaML]

My coin with the oldest provenance (not counting siliquae of Constantius II and Valens from the 1887 East Harptree hoard, and a couple of coins from the Dattari Collection) is a Vespasian aureus with a provenance dating back to 1938, and before that to 1910 -- both confirmed by photographic evidence:

Vespasian AV Aureus, 75 AD (Cos VI), Rome Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, IMP CAESAR - VESPASIANVS AVG [counter-clockwise from 5:00] / Rev. Victory holding palm branch in left hand and wreath in outstretched right hand, standing left on cista mystica flanked by two coiled serpents with heads pointing upwards*, PON MAX - TR P COS VI [clockwise from 8:00]. Two small edge dents/cuts on obverse at 3:00 and 6:00 (possibly from old jewelry mount). 19 mm., 7.22 g. RIC II-1 Vespasian 775 (2007 ed.), old RIC II Vespasian 82 (1926 ed.), BMCRE 168, Cohen 370, Sear RCV I 2254 (ill. p. 431). Purchased from Arete Coins, Seattle, WA, Dec. 2021; ex Triskeles Auctions Sale 21, Lot 392, 29 Sep. 2017 (according to John Lavender, the former proprietor of Triskeles now with Nomos AG, the coin was consigned to Triskeles by a German collector who had purchased the coin in Munich); ex Ars Classica XVIII (“COLLECTION TRÈS IMPORTANTE MONNAIES ROMAINES FORMÊE PAR UN DIPLOMATE ÉTRANGER DEPUIS LONGTEMPS DÉCÉDÉ” [Collection of Vicomte de Sartiges]), Lot 144 [ill. Pl. 6], 10 Oct. 1938, l'Hôtel Schweizerhof, Lucerne, Switzerland (Experts Dr. Jacob Hirsch & M. Lucien Naville);** ex Collection of Louis, Vicomte de Sartiges (1859-1924), published in Sartiges, Vicomte de, “Collection du vicomte de Sartiges. Séries grecque et romaine, en 1910, ainsi que les acquisitions depuis cette date”
(Paris, D.A. Longuet; Plates I-XLIII published 1910; undated supplement contains five additional plates), Pl. XXVI, No. 105 [this coin, acquired before 1910]. ***

 

*See Sear RCV I at p. 431: “The reverse type is inspired by the triumviral cistophoric coinage of Provincial Asia” (citing Sear RCV I 1512-1513, issued by Mark Antony). See also similar reverse on silver quinarius issued by Octavian, RIC I 276, Sear RCV I 1568.

**The Ars Classica 1938 catalogue (I was able to find and buy a copy of it for myself, in addition to the copy available online) with a photo and description of this coin, sold as Lot 144:

***See Provenance Glossary, p. 14, Numismatica Ars Classica Auction 91 Catalogue, 23 May 2016,  Zurich, Switzerland:

This coin as illustrated & described in the 1910 Catalogue of the de Sartiges Collection, Pl. XXVI, No. 105:

Edited September 16, 2023 by DonnaML

[Deinomenid]

@DonnaML Do you have a copy of the de Sartiges catalogue  by chance? Or  know  how to access it online please?

I'm trying to trace a coin I have of  his that I know was owned  by Benson (of Brooklyn, NY) whose estate  sold it  in 1909 at Sotheby, Wilkinson,  but that  auction catalogue says it was bought by  Rollin.  It might not have ended up with de Sartiges in time for the Longuet book...

I cannot see it in either of the Ars Classica de Sartiges sales in '24 or '38.

 

It is lot 213 here -

 

 

 

[DonnaML]

9 minutes ago, Deinomenid said:

@DonnaML Do you have a copy of the de Sartiges catalogue  by chance? Or  know  how to access it online please?

I'm trying to trace a coin I have of  his that I know was owned  by Benson (of Brooklyn, NY) whose estate  sold it  in 1909 at Sotheby, Wilkinson,  but that  auction catalogue says it was bought by  Rollin.  It might not have ended up with de Sartiges in time for the Longuet book...

I cannot see it in either of the Ars Classica de Sartiges sales in '24 or '38.

 

It is lot 213 here -

 

 

 

Unfortunately, the de Sartiges book from 1910 (with supplementary plates published at a later unknown date) is not available online anywhere, so far as I was able to determine from an extensive search. Our member @voulgaroktonou (Mike B.), who works (or did as of a year or so ago) at the John Miller Burnam Classics Library at the University of Cincinnati -- which was listed in WorldCat as having one of only a small number of copies in the USA -- was able to look at the book for me, and copied the relevant pages. Perhaps if you sent him a private message, he might be able to do so for you, assuming that the book isn't available at any library located near you.

[Ancient Coin Hunter]

I have this Victorinus piece:

No specific date other than the mention of a Dr. W. Wruck in Berlin. I speculate it may be pre-WWII. I also have an AE19 of Claudius from Apamaea which formerly was a museum piece in Istanbul, then a Wildwinds plate coin.

Edited March 8, 2023 by Ancient Coin Hunter

[Brennos]

18 hours ago, Deinomenid said:

@DonnaML Do you have a copy of the de Sartiges catalogue  by chance? Or  know  how to access it online please?

I'm trying to trace a coin I have of  his that I know was owned  by Benson (of Brooklyn, NY) whose estate  sold it  in 1909 at Sotheby, Wilkinson,  but that  auction catalogue says it was bought by  Rollin.  It might not have ended up with de Sartiges in time for the Longuet book...

I cannot see it in either of the Ars Classica de Sartiges sales in '24 or '38.

 

It is lot 213 here -

 

 

 

This coin is the number 89 (pl. VI) of De Sartiges 1910 catalogue

 

[Deinomenid]

Thank you, yes that's all I  got. Well sort of - I have it as  "Vicomte de Sartiges Collection, # 89", but I  just can't tell if that's  the same as 89 in the 1910 catalogue. 

It's far from crucial  but just of interest. Frankly  I'm slightly struggling to see  how  his Greeks were dispersed and why nearly all his collection went through Ars Classica apart from this area.

[DonnaML]

41 minutes ago, Deinomenid said:

Thank you, yes that's all I  got. Well sort of - I have it as  "Vicomte de Sartiges Collection, # 89", but I  just can't tell if that's  the same as 89 in the 1910 catalogue. 

It's far from crucial  but just of interest. Frankly  I'm slightly struggling to see  how  his Greeks were dispersed and why nearly all his collection went through Ars Classica apart from this area.

I get the sense that de Sartiges acquired many of his coins from Jacob Hirsch (certainly one of the leading dealers in ancient coins from the 1890s) and/or Lucien Naville. If so, it's not a surprise that his family decided to dispose of his collection  through  them. With respect to Hirsch, it may or may not be significant that de Sartiges's first wife was German-Jewish, and, unusually, did not convert. It's fair to say that de Sartiges was no anti-Semite.

[Qcumbor]

While on the other place, my 2020 Saturnalia gift consisted of no less than 5 1/2 coins sent by our own @AnYangMan. Among them were two coins with fabulous pedigrees :

1 - Usually, pedigreed coins are the rare and/or prestigious ones. Never have I encountered an obscure, modest and plebeian coin with a provenance going back as far as 1849 (at least) !
It's a Tetricus II antoninianus with its original holder, from the Netherlands National collections, stating it has been in the "old cabinet" (i.e. pre 1849, when the two main collections merged) since.

 

2 - A sicilian byzantine follis from Constans II, coming from no less than the Rodolfo Spahr collection, with its original tag, featuring a pencil rubbing of the coin. The reverse of the tag is somewhat precise on the date of purchase : November 1932

Q

[NewStyleKing]

I always mocked provenance ...it seems i was right!  Best accidental prov.....Marc & Lottie Salton. But they never revealed where they got it from  !!!  Maybe an unknown Roma auction way back in the 1950's   hahaha

[kapphnwn]

In another thread @David Atherton features a very interesting Denarius which is now plated in the 2007 edition of the RIC. I too have a plate coin from that volume. I felt that it might not be correct to place it in that thread. (Not being Vespasian ) so I decided to place it here.  In a way it does belong here as it is perhaps my very first  adventure with a pedigree. 

Domitiann As Caesar Ae Sestertius 77-78 AD Obv Head right laureate Rv Annona seated left  RIC 1040 26.41 grms 33 MM Photo by W. Hansen 

During the Christmas holiday 2014 I went to visit my sister in Calgary and while there I stopped at Calgary Coin and bought this sestertius. I thought it was nice and the price was right so I took it with me. A few days later back at home, I decide to start researching the coin. Everything was more or less as expected until I decided to compare my coin with the example plated in the RIC and discovered it was one and the same.  Here you can see my rather inept attempt at taking a photo of the relevant plate of the RIC with my coin sitting beside it. Naturally this piqued my interest and so looking at the  information that came with the coin it was my first foray down the rabbit hole of Pedigree research

Initially I found it had a ticket from Ed Waddell. This was undated However the RIC number given was from the older edition of RIC not the one published in 2007

Then I found it had a reference to the Cornelius Vermeule Collection. His collection was auctioned off in 1999 by CNG however going through that auction I could not find it. This turned out to be a dead end. 

Then I found a reference the the V.J.E Ryan collection This coin was auctioned as part of a three coin bult lot in a Glendinnings Auction in 1952. It is not illustrated there However the RIC reference list the Ryan pedigree as well as the lot number. A  cast must have been made of the coin at some point and was used to illustrate the 2007 edition of the RIC. The Vermeule reference may actually be one of the other coins found in this bulk lot.