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After I managed to obtain one of my main targets in an auction today, I noticed something that always grabs my attention - some nicely silvered Gallienus coins.

Every ancient coins collector instantly thinks about Zoo series, but the coinage of Gallienus still offers other attractive types. And the mint workers had some imagination, in my opinion above the period's average.

I like the Zoo series a lot and have some examples, but from what I saw finding a coin from this series with some silvering and also well struck and centered is not exactly easy.

For the non Zoo series, things are better.

Here are today's purchases:

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Gallienus AD 266-268. Antioch
Antoninianus Æ silvered
21 mm, 3,77 g
AD 266 - AD 268
GALLIENVS AVG, bust of Gallienus, radiate, draped, right  /  VENER VICTRICI, Venus, draped, standing left, holding helmet in right hand and spear and shield in left hand. In exergue VIIC dot
Cf RIC V Gallienus 660

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Gallienus AD 260-268. Antioch
Antoninianus Æ silvered
21 mm, 3,60 g
GALLIENVS AVG, bust of Gallienus, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right / VICTORIA AVG, Victory, winged, draped, standing or walking left, holding wreath in right hand and palm in left hand
RIC V Gallienus 663

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Gallienus AD 253-268. Antioch
Antoninianus Æ silvered
22 mm, 3,00 g
GALLIENVS AVG, bust of Gallienus, radiate, cuirassed, right / LVNA LVCIF, Diana, draped, walking right, holding torch. Exergue PXV.
RIC V Gallienus 609

These will be good additions near my favorite Gallienus coin

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and, why not, to my only Gallienus coin from my Zoo series that still shows traces of silvering

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Do you have Gallienus coins with silvering remaining? Please post them.

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I am personally very fascinated about Gallienus, both as a ruler, but also as an emperor on coinage. My first and (to this date) only coin of him came from another member roughly 6000km away from me. The shipping costs were way bigger than the value of the coins, so he added "a few" (about 10) huge coin trays! Ive just taken the pictures, you can see very well where the silvering is, but its of course not as yellow in person:

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What I paricularly like about this coin is the amazing artistry on the bust, which is also very high relief in person. The images dont do justice!

 

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@ambr0zie....Nice pick ups..

Really like the Diana reverse..

Here's my only Gallienus...

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Recently I took some new photos showing how this coin has toned over the years.

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Gallienus, Antoninianus, Minted AD 258-259 (Joint reign)
Obverse..GALLIENVS dot P dot F dot AVG Radiate, curaissed bust right
Reverse..GERMANICVS MAX V trophy between two seated and bound German captives
RIC VI#18 variant obv legend dots..Cologne

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There were other Diana reverses in the auction, and the one I got was not my favorite (bad reverse strike, Diana should have a crescent on the head, but this is what happens when the strategy is not correct. But it's still a nice coin.

Forgot about my RIC 18, that also shows traces of silvering (another pic needed sometime in the future ...)

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4 minutes ago, Spaniard said:

What did it go for as I wasn't watching?

2905513_1653760879.jpg600 EUR + fees.

I can't find a reference or a similar one, so not your every day Salonina, also the coin has excellent details and a very generous flan, but ... 600 EUR + taxes ....

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Coins of Gallienus and Salonina from Smyrna (SPQR mintmark) are all rare, known to a few specimens only, many types and variants unlisted in the main references, and many collectors are after them, making the prices high. 

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1 hour ago, Lhevae said:

Coins of Gallienus and Salonina from Smyrna (SPQR mintmark) are all rare, known to a few specimens only, many types and variants unlisted in the main references, and many collectors are after them, making the prices high. 

I was actually the first bid on that SPQR Salonina (although my bid of 10EUR was more to get the email notification of the lot coming up rather than an attempt to win it!). It's a very nice coin, and doubtless one of the finest of the type.

I've actually seen 3 other SPQR Saloninas come up for sale in the last 6 months or so, all sold in group lots by Roma. I bid on all of them, but didn't win any. As my budget as increased since they cam up for sale, I seriously regret not bidding more on them.

https://www.romanumismatics.com/258-lot-1417-lot-of-20-roman-imperial-bi-coins?arr=0&auction_id=158&box_filter=0&cat_id=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&gridtype=listview&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=100&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=

Bottom right, FORTVNA AVG. Sold for £380. Very nice obverse, reverse has some deposits, and SPQR barely visible

https://www.romanumismatics.com/259-lot-2021-lot-of-20-roman-imperial-bi-coins?arr=0&auction_id=159&box_filter=0&cat_id=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&gridtype=listview&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=100&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=

Another FORTVNA AVG example that only reached £240

https://www.romanumismatics.com/260-lot-1789-lot-of-20-late-roman-a-coins?arr=0&auction_id=160&box_filter=0&cat_id=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&gridtype=listview&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=100&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=

This is the one I regret not bidding on most, as it went for "very cheap" at £110 (ok, still expensive for a Salonina). I would have bid a lot more on this, but I had just spent around £500 on a different auction for coins to sell on eBay, so I couldn't justify it then. It's a SALVS AVG example, and obviously from a different hoard than the other two. On the bright side, one of the coins I bought instead was my Alexius and John Asen trachy in a group lot for £1 a coin, that has since been sent to auction (ironically Roma).

 

Anyway, to fit with the theme of this thread, here are a couple of my silvered Gallienus antoninianii!

Pictures formatted weirdly to avoid my photo quality looking terrible.

VICT GAL AVG - an extremely rare type, possibly with the bust wearing a lion skin. This coin is infinitely nicer in hand than my photo suggests (better ones coming soon), with the deposits being much less pronounced, the coin being less shiny, and the surface not as rough as it looks.

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Gallienus - PROVIDENTIA AVGG

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Gallienus - VIRTVS AVG / SPQR. Not silvered, but I feel it fits well in this thread!

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Gallienus - TIA AVG TIA AVG (Error). Shown multiple times before, but it's one of my cooler coins, so you may be seeing it often 😄

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Gallienus - ABVNDANTIA AVG

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Gallienus (AD 253-268)

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AE Antoninianus (21mm, 2.74 g). Cologne mint. AD 257-258. GALLIENVSPFAVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right / GERMANICVS AVG V, Trophy between two captives at base. RIC Vi (Lyons) 18; Göbl 872d (Cologne).

 Ex CGB Numismatics Paris.

 

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Not one of my Gallienus Zoo Series coins has any remaining silvering. My one Gallienus that does have some isn't otherwise in great condition:

Gallienus (son of Valerian I), Silvered Billon Antoninianus, 255-256 AD, Samasota Mint. Obv. Radiate, draped, & cuirassed bust right, IMP C P LIC GALLIENVS P F AVG/ Rev. Gallienus stdg. right, holding spear/scepter, receiving globe from Jupiter standing facing left, holding scepter, wreath in upper center, IOVI CONSERVATORI. RIC V-1 440(j) [joint reign], RSC IV 379. 20 mm., 4.0 g.

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10 hours ago, Spaniard said:

@ambr0zie....Nice pick ups..

Really like the Diana reverse..

Here's my only Gallienus...

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Recently I took some new photos showing how this coin has toned over the years.

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Gallienus, Antoninianus, Minted AD 258-259 (Joint reign)
Obverse..GALLIENVS dot P dot F dot AVG Radiate, curaissed bust right
Reverse..GERMANICVS MAX V trophy between two seated and bound German captives
RIC VI#18 variant obv legend dots..Cologne

@Spaniard, I'm needing the detail and irridescence on your example.  If you could expand on the RIC attribution to Cologne, for the less enlightened among us (namely, My sh-t), that could not fail to elicit keen appreciation.

...As a kid, I had exactly one Gallienus with most of the silvering intact, a SOLI INVICTO.  It was the first silvered antoninianus of the period that I'd ever seen, and it was The, Ahem, Stuff.  Still vividly remember the contrast with the underlying black metal, suggesting tin --a combination enthusiastically resorted to in French feudal issues most of a millennium later.

Then, over the last couple of years, while buying a French feudal coin from a dealer I'd known for most of a decade, via Delcampe and French ebay, I had to get this one.  It blew my head off.  --Thanks especially for confirming my suspicions that it's a joint issue (contemporaneous to Valerian), never mind an early one of Gallienus.  (In print, all I have for Romans is an embarrassingly old edition of Sear.)

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7 hours ago, Romancollector said:

Gallienus (AD 253-268)

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AE Antoninianus (21mm, 2.74 g). Cologne mint. AD 257-258. GALLIENVSPFAVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right / GERMANICVS AVG V, Trophy between two captives at base. RIC Vi (Lyons) 18; Göbl 872d (Cologne).

 Ex CGB Numismatics Paris.

 

Oh, I like the portrait style. 

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14 hours ago, Harry G said:

I was actually the first bid on that SPQR Salonina (although my bid of 10EUR was more to get the email notification of the lot coming up rather than an attempt to win it!). It's a very nice coin, and doubtless one of the finest of the type.

I've actually seen 3 other SPQR Saloninas come up for sale in the last 6 months or so, all sold in group lots by Roma. I bid on all of them, but didn't win any. As my budget as increased since they cam up for sale, I seriously regret not bidding more on them.

https://www.romanumismatics.com/258-lot-1417-lot-of-20-roman-imperial-bi-coins?arr=0&auction_id=158&box_filter=0&cat_id=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&gridtype=listview&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=100&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=

Bottom right, FORTVNA AVG. Sold for £380. Very nice obverse, reverse has some deposits, and SPQR barely visible

https://www.romanumismatics.com/259-lot-2021-lot-of-20-roman-imperial-bi-coins?arr=0&auction_id=159&box_filter=0&cat_id=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&gridtype=listview&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=100&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=

Another FORTVNA AVG example that only reached £240

https://www.romanumismatics.com/260-lot-1789-lot-of-20-late-roman-a-coins?arr=0&auction_id=160&box_filter=0&cat_id=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&gridtype=listview&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=list_view&lots_per_page=100&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=0&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=lot_number&view=lot_detail&year=

This is the one I regret not bidding on most, as it went for "very cheap" at £110 (ok, still expensive for a Salonina). I would have bid a lot more on this, but I had just spent around £500 on a different auction for coins to sell on eBay, so I couldn't justify it then. It's a SALVS AVG example, and obviously from a different hoard than the other two. On the bright side, one of the coins I bought instead was my Alexius and John Asen trachy in a group lot for £1 a coin, that has since been sent to auction (ironically Roma).

 

Anyway, to fit with the theme of this thread, here are a couple of my silvered Gallienus antoninianii!

Pictures formatted weirdly to avoid my photo quality looking terrible.

VICT GAL AVG - an extremely rare type, possibly with the bust wearing a lion skin. This coin is infinitely nicer in hand than my photo suggests (better ones coming soon), with the deposits being much less pronounced, the coin being less shiny, and the surface not as rough as it looks.

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Gallienus - PROVIDENTIA AVGG

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Gallienus - VIRTVS AVG / SPQR. Not silvered, but I feel it fits well in this thread!

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Gallienus - TIA AVG TIA AVG (Error). Shown multiple times before, but it's one of my cooler coins, so you may be seeing it often 😄

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Gallienus - ABVNDANTIA AVG

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Wow, the VIC GAL AVG is fantastic! Great coin! If one day you're parting with it (which I doubt, but you never know), I'm definitely interested. This is such a rare and interesting piece. Congrats.

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17 hours ago, Severus Alexander said:

Coingrats on the new scores!  (Did you see that Salonina SPQR go for it?!)

Sole reign silvered Gallienus, first from Rome mint, second from Antioch:

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Is that VICTORIA AVG III or AVG II? Just curious.

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Wow, there are some really nice examples and interesting, rare types in this thread. 

 

This one's from Cologne, when the billon was still silvery. 

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This on the other hand, from Mediolanum, came out of the Normanby Hoard with barely a trace of silvering still on it.

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Ummm, silvering? ... I only had two Gallienus-examples, so I'll let you guys be the judge ... 

 

GALLIENUS, AE ANTONINIANUS (below)

253-268 AD

Struck circa 267-268 AD

Diameter: 21 mm

Weight: 3.56 grams

Obverse: GALLIENVS AVG Radiate head right

Reverse: APOLLINI CONS AVG Centaur advancing right, drawing bow; Z (retrograde)

Reference: RIC 163; C. 72

Other: pretty cool

Ex-stevex6

 

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Gallienus, AE Tetradrachm (below)

Egypt-Alexandria

264/265 (Year 12)

Diameter: 22 mm x 23 mm

Weight: 8.72 grams

Obverse: Laureate, cuirassed bust right

Reverse: Eagle standing facing, head left, holding large wreath with spread wings
L IB in upper field

Reference: Emmett 3809 (corrected); Milne 4110; Curtis 1596; BMC 2237

Other: slightly rough. Neat dramatic reverse

Ex-stevex6 … Ex Keith Emmett Collection; Ex Frank Robinson, June 1993

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