Benefactor Phil Davis Posted November 22, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) I've never really been willing or even able to name a "favorite coin" in my collection. I have quite a few I'm rather partial to. I certainly didn't expect that to change at this relatively late date in my collecting life. Never say never... One of the rarest, most sought after denarii in the entire Republican series is the only silver coin struck by the moneyer C. Numitorius, Crawford 246/1, in 133 BC on Crawford's dating, (The same moneyer also issued several much more common bronze denominations, semis down to sextans.) It's long been recognized as an important rarity, R9 in Sydenham, and truly is one of the types by which a Republican collection is judged. Of course I've always badly wanted one, but the few to appear in the market all had noticeable problems (despite being rather pricey) and I was never seriously tempted. Until now... It's the holiday season and I bought myself a slightly early Chanukah present. The types are typical of the period: head of Roma on the obverse, Victory in quadriga on the reverse. What makes the type "sexy" of course is the name C. NVMITORI in the exergue. These are the only coins issued by the Numitoria gens, or at any rate the only ones that have survived. Nothing is known about the moneyer with any certainty; Crawford is willing to expand the name slightly to C. Numitorius C.f. Lem., mentioned in a Senatus consultum, but says little else. Grueber in the BMC catalogue cites speculation that the moneyer may be a certain Sullan associate Caius Numitorius who was put to death by Marius and Cinna in 87 BC, but acknowledges that this is uncertain. Really, all we have are the coins. And glorious coins they are, at least when struck by the best pair of dies. Rarity aside, the craftsmanship on those two dies is worlds better than anything else I'm aware of from the early to mid 2nd Century BC, of any type. When the coin presented here was offered by the San Marino firm Artemide Aste, of the quality I wanted, struck from the dies I wanted, I knew I had to have it. Eating is overrated. Here are the dealer's quite good photos. I've looked at maybe 30 examples, in person, online or in catalogues. Anyone who knows me knows that I'm loath to use terms like "finest known," because how can we ever know that really, but if this isn't the finest surviving example of this classic rarity, someone will need to show me a better one to convince me. My friends at Artemide Aste had been quite taken with Aaron Berk's video of the "unboxing" of the gold Eid Mar we (HJB) recently purchased for a client and asked me to do something similar when I received this coin. I felt a little sheepish about it, because although I absolutely adore this coin, it is two zeroes shy of the gold Eid Mar, but the auction house has been very helpful and I wanted to accommodate them in return. Here's a link to the video; thanks to Aaron for shooting it and posting it on his YouTube podcast channel: Edited November 29, 2022 by Phil Davis 28 2 1 1 3 1 4 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 22, 2022 Oh… that’s a fantastic coin. Congratulations! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted November 22, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 Congrats on acquiring such a rarity Phil, and in such a good quality, WOW ! Q 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted November 22, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 Wow!....Super looking coin.. Shame it's in plastic but also nice to put a face to the name... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted November 22, 2022 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spaniard said: Wow!....Super looking coin.. Shame it's in plastic but also nice to put a face to the name... It's not in plastic anymore... 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted November 22, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 Super coin, Phil! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientJoe Posted November 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 22, 2022 Only graded MS62? Just melt it 😉 An incredible example of an important type - I can certainly understand why it'd be your new favorite! 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted November 22, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 Coingrats on the absolute showstopper🤩 1 hour ago, Phil Davis said: I knew I had to have it. Eating is overrated. I've nothing of that quality, but will share a favorite RR. Nothing like the relief, centering nor artistry of yours, but Roma is looking happy and it's shield shines like a diamond: 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted November 22, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 What an extraordinary coin! Congratulations! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 22, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2022 ..very nice coin Phil....and great vid too! 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisimo Posted November 23, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2022 Truly fantastic addition @Phil Davis! Now show us your top 10! 😉 just kidding 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted November 23, 2022 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Curtisimo said: Now show us your top 10! 😉 I probably won't do that @Curtisimo, but fwiw I have a different show and tell I've been considering. Next time I visit the safe deposit box (which now needs to be very very soon, lol!) I want to do a group shot of my nearly complete run of Brutus silver. Without false modesty, it's one of the strongest parts of my collection (despite no Eid Mar) and I'd enjoy sharing it. 6 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisimo Posted November 23, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Phil Davis said: I probably won't do that @Curtisimo, but fwiw I have a different show and tell I've been considering. Next time I visit the safe deposit box (which now needs to be very very soon, lol!) I want to do a group shot of my nearly complete run of Brutus silver. Without false modesty, it's one of the strongest parts of my collection (despite no Eid Mar) and I'd enjoy sharing it. I am genuinely looking forward to seeing it! Your collection is truly inspirational. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay GT4 Posted November 23, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 Fantastic. Congrats! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadie Posted November 23, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 I must confess not having known about this moneyer or the extreme rarity this type brings. But truth be told, this is exactly my type of coin. Congratulations on a lovely win! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Atherton Posted November 23, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 It was a joy watching the unboxing video. Congratulations Phil! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor jdmKY Posted November 23, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 23, 2022 I can’t wait to see the “Bruti”! I had the goal of acquiring as many examples of his coinage as I could, gold and silver, but found that there were several that were slightly (or greatly) out of my reach. Kudos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazuma78 Posted November 23, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 Great addition! The strike and detail on this coin is exceptional. Even better that it's so great on such a rare piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulla80 Posted November 24, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2022 Fun to watch the opening! Congratulations @Phil Davis, a remarkable coin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted November 24, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2022 So beautiful! I can't imagine there being a better one than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted November 25, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 2:57 PM, Phil Davis said: I've never really been willing or even able to name a "favorite coin" in my collection. I have quite a few I'm rather partial to. I certainly didn't expect that to change at this relatively late date in my collecting life. Never say never... One of the rarest, most sought after denarii in the entire Republican series is the only silver coin struck by the moneyer C. Numitorius, Crawford 246/1, in 133 BC on Crawford's dating, (The same moneyer also issued several much more common bronze denominations, semis down to sextans.) It's long been recognized as an important rarity, R9 in Sydenham, and truly is one of the types by which a Republican collection is judged. Of course I've always badly wanted one, but the few to appear in the market all had noticeable problems (despite being rather pricey) and I was never seriously tempted. Until now... It's the holiday season and I bought myself a slightly early Chanukah present. The types are typical of the period: head of Roma on the obverse, Victory in quadriga on the reverse. What makes the type "sexy" of course is the name C. NVMITORI in the exergue. These are the only coins issued by the Numitoria gens, or at any rate the only ones that have survived. Nothing is known about the moneyer with any certainty; Crawford is willing to expand the name slightly to C. Numitorius C.f. Lem., mentioned in a Senatus consultum, but says little else. Grueber in the BMC catalogue cites speculation that the moneyer may be a certain Sullan associate Caius Numitorius who was put to death by Marius and Cinna in 87 BC, but acknowledges that this is uncertain. Really, all we have are the coins. And glorious coins they are, at least when struck by the best pair of dies. Rarity aside, the craftsmanship on those two dies is worlds better than anything else I'm aware of from the early to mid 2nd Century BC, of any type. When the coin presented here was offered by the San Marino firm Artemide Aste, of the quality I wanted, struck from the dies I wanted, I knew I had to have it. Eating is overrated. Here are the dealer's quite good photos. I've looked at maybe 30 examples, in person, online or in catalogues. Anyone who knows me knows that I'm loath to use terms like "finest known," because how can we ever know that really, but if this isn't the finest surviving example of this classic rarity, someone will need to show me a better one to convince me. My friends at Artemide Aste had been quite taken with Aaron Berk's video of the "unboxing" of the gold Eid Mar we (HJB) recently purchased for a client and asked me to do something similar when I received this coin. I felt a little sheepish about it, because although I absolutely adore this coin, it is two zeroes shy of the gold Eid Mar, but the auction house has been very helpful and I wanted to accommodate them in return. Here's a link to the video; thanks to Aaron for shooting it and posting it on his Facebook podcast channel: Congrats Phil! Wonderful find! Wow. such a gorgeous, aesthetically pleasing coin to my eye! I am honored that you opened your package with the scissors design that I and my development team created several years ago! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted November 25, 2022 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Alegandron said: I am honored that you opened your package with the scissors design that I and my development team created several years ago! How cool! I would've mentioned it and given you credit if I knew, but I had no idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted November 25, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil Davis said: How cool! I would've mentioned it and given you credit if I knew, but I had no idea. No need for credit. It is a reminiscence for me. This design was created over 30 years ago, and has been copied by others later. I have been involved with the development of many consumer products over the years, that folks have used everyday in their lives. It is fun to see folks use them without a thought, other than that they do their intended job in the daily lives. Just fun and an internal satisfaction that I am helping folks. I rarely discuss it. However, it was an honor that you captured such a wonderful coin, and some of my personal legacy helped touched your life. Fun. Happiness to you! Brian 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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