leeshiel Posted November 16, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) Hi everyone thank you for allowing me to join the forum, Edited November 18, 2022 by leeshiel 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLTcoins Posted November 17, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Unless the coin has a significant iron content, the reddish/ blackish encrustation is much more likely to be copper-based, possibly mixed with horn silver. Edited November 17, 2022 by DLTcoins 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 17, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) :-). Edited November 18, 2022 by leeshiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 17, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) :-). Edited November 18, 2022 by leeshiel 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucius Scaevola Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 2:23 AM, DLTcoins said: Unless the coin has a significant iron content, the reddish/ blackish encrustation is much more likely to be copper-based, possibly mixed with horn silver. What happened here?😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 @leeshiel, welcome to the Forum, but I don't think editing your messages in this manner is a recommended practice. You asked for a cleaning advice and other members might have been interested. Also editing makes the thread irrelevant. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucius Scaevola Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 Oh, that was this coin cleaning thread? So @leeshielyou got your answers and then you start deleting or editing the thread? Well..that's a garbage move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mucius Scaevola said: Oh, that was this coin cleaning thread? New Avatar? Your coin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucius Scaevola Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Prieure de Sion said: New Avatar? Your coin? Si señor, but I already posted it here and I think you even liked it 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Mucius Scaevola said: Si señor, but I already posted it here and I think you even liked it 😂 Oh... i am get older ... I will search for it... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 Sorry i asked for advice and how to clean iron oxide from a coin and received no answers, i also was polite to thank you for allowing me to join and didn't receive one welcome message i presumed a cleaning thread was taboo, Regardless for anyone with interest i am manually cleaning with a thorn and soaking the Stephen penny in lemon juice it;s a rare coin with only 13 recorded slowly but surely getting there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 The above pictures was from yesterday evening i am now at this stage the reverse is pretty much finished, i will tone the coin once cleaning is finished. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Mucius Scaevola said: Oh, that was this coin cleaning thread? So @leeshielyou got your answers and then you start deleting or editing the thread? Well..that's a garbage move. I didn't get a answer to my question i asked how to remove iron oxide do you see a post explaning how to remove it "NO" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted November 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Welcome to the forum @leeshiel.. Thanks for the updated photos it looks as if the results are turning out well..Years ago I used to buy and clean bronzes although obviously a different system is needed for silver, here's my last attempt...This was just soaked in distilled water/olive oil and then manually cleaned using different devises and a magnifying glass....I actually found it really relaxing... Edited November 18, 2022 by Spaniard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucius Scaevola Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) It doesn't matter. If everyone would do the same, you can just delete the forum because it's going to be useless. Sometimes you'll get the answer you want and sometimes you won't. Don't take it personally, this is how forums are. Maybe you get an useful answer after a week. But deleting pictures or posts is ridiculous. Edited November 18, 2022 by Mucius Scaevola 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewomack Posted November 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, leeshiel said: Sorry i asked for advice and how to clean iron oxide from a coin and received no answers, i also was polite to thank you for allowing me to join and didn't receive one welcome message i presumed a cleaning thread was taboo, Regardless for anyone with interest i am manually cleaning with a thorn and soaking the Stephen penny in lemon juice it;s a rare coin with only 13 recorded slowly but surely getting there. Welcome to the forum! It's okay. I've posted here from close to the forum's beginning and I still occasionally post something that doesn't receive a response. It happens. On at least one occasion, I received a response only a week later. If you post something that violates the rules, someone will likely tell you. Deleting your posts will ensure that you don't receive an answer. What I don't understand is that someone did respond to your post, so you did receive an answer and then you deleted your posts. You can do what you want, and you must have had your reasons, which is fine, but just understand that if you do that then no one can help you. Edited November 18, 2022 by ewomack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 I think - he is new and he has now understood what the mistake was 🙂 ... but all of us make mistakes. We have now explained it to him - and now we should be happy that we have a new member again... 🙂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Spaniard said: Welcome to the forum @leeshiel.. Thanks for the updated photos it looks as if the results are turning out well..Years ago I used to buy and clean bronzes although obviously a different system is needed for silver, here's my last attempt...This was just soaked in distilled water/olive oil and then manually cleaned using different devises and a magnifying glass....I actually found it really relaxing... Thanks for the welcome Spaniard nice result well done, i have cleaned bronzes using the the same method with similar results but like you say different methods for silver, i have never cleaned a coin with iron oxide on before reason for my initial post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted November 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, leeshiel said: Thanks for the welcome Spaniard nice result well done, i have cleaned bronzes using the the same method with similar results but like you say different methods for silver, i have never cleaned a coin with iron oxide on before reason for my initial post. As I understand it, the metal of the coin is more important than the deposit, as the chemicals will damage silver and bronze differently. Obviously, if the deposit is reacting with the coin, that is a different story, but iron oxide wouldn't react with silver, since silver is less reactive than iron. I don't think cleaning bronze in lemon juice is advisable, but it seems ok with silver, at least high quality silver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Spaniard said: This was just soaked in distilled water/olive oil and then manually cleaned 4 minutes ago, John Conduitt said: I don't think cleaning bronze in lemon juice is advisable My answer was to the above :-), 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) Cleaning nearly finished i will finish it off in natural light. Edited November 18, 2022 by leeshiel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted November 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 @leeshiel...I look forward to seeing the end result..Interesting idea using a thorn as a tool... How will you tone the coin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted November 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, leeshiel said: Cleaning nearly finished i will finish it of in natural light. Nice coin. What do you think it is? Maybe Stephen Cross Moline (Type 1), Rodbert on Cant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Spaniard said: @leeshiel...I look forward to seeing the end result..Interesting idea using a thorn as a tool... How will you tone the coin? Thank you most of the Staffordshire hoard was cleaned with a thorn i can't claim credit for the idea :-(, most likely liver of sulfer. 25 minutes ago, John Conduitt said: Nice coin. What do you think it is? Maybe Stephen Cross Moline (Type 1), Rodbert on Cant? Thank you, nearly right type 1 Rodbert London, ref EMC/SCBI NUMBER:2022.0414 in this link only 13 recorded including this coin. https://emc.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/advanced-results?rulername[]=Stephen&mint[]=London&MoneyerLemma[]=Rodbert&Find-spot=&emcnumb=&Preservation=&startdate=&enddate=&emc-scbi= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, Spaniard said: Interesting idea using a thorn as a tool :-). https://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/conservation-journal/using-thorns-to-conserve-the-hoard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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