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Thanks, yes it was i dont buy anything, The crown will keep this one it will be the best example on the PAS database. https://finds.org.uk/

Many thanks it's now in the hands of the British museum, as a coin it's nothing made into a dress hook in this condition it's very rare.

A coin of Philip IV, PHILIP IV "THE FAIR" who reigned from 1285 to 1314 AD. The obverse depicts a large Templar Cross: + PHILIPPVS. REX ; LÉGENDE EXTÉRIEURE : + BHDICTV: SIT: HOME: DHI: NRI: DEI: IHV. XPI, (Philip the king; blessed be the name of our Lord Jesus Christ) The reverse of the coin displays a Châtel tournois topped with a croisette cutting the legend at 12 o'clock; outer border of twelve lilies in oves., the legend reads: TVRONVS (TRIANGLE) CIVIS. (City of Tours) The coin has been made into a dress hook so it's classed as treasure, Theoretically it's a artefact not a coin, In the late thirteenth and early fourteenth centuries a trend for coins fashioned into dress hooks became popular I use the term dress hook rather than brooch, as the attachments soldered onto surviving examples consist of a loop and hook. The loop is clearly intended to be sewn onto a garment with the hook used to secure part of an item of clothing to another. The choice of coins used show a marked preference for larger module pieces; initially these were Edward I’s groats but as the denomination was withdrawn from the English currency similar size gros from the continent were substituted and used instead. In a handful of cases pennies have been used. The method of conversion sees the cross side gilded (obverse on English coins, reverse on French coins) and the soldering of either a single or double piece loop and hook to the opposing face.

Yes it was, i dont buy anything i only collect what i find. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks John.

Nice little coin lovely natural patina it looks better in hand, I believe it to be a Siliqua Theodosius I Trier mint RIC IX 94b but i could be wrong.

Many thanks, I have found this link i will have a good luck through it. https://iacb.arch.ox.ac.uk/id/abc.1722

Very nice your Corieltauvi has been in discussion in this thread nice coin, https://www.sixbid.com/de/roma-numismatics-ltd/9878/spain-gaul-and-celtic/8480491/britannia-the-corieltauvi-av-stater?term&orderCol=lot_number&orderDirection=asc&priceFrom&displayMode=large&auctionSessions=&sidebarIsSticky=false

Thank you, no i didn't i guess it would have been hard to preserve, The day i found it i wasn't finding much and i was heading to another field when i came across some large pebbles that was sounding off pebbles shouldn't make my machine go bleep, Knowing Celts/Romans etc cooked with pebbles i presumed they had been in contact with a bronze cooking pot i started to search the area and found it close to the pebbles, If i didn't have this knowledge i would never have found it.

Thanks John i am sure Dr Sills will be aware of this I have received this information when i asked elsewhere previously "not Dr Sills", this is a near match https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/chris-rudd/catalogue-id-chris-10019/lot-d7f46bca-8d49-4c6a-8413-a8b201010ba9?fbclid=IwAR1jhYB6r75amcfL8XZzBBMp2N2buLKwXfPo_y05EGtdnadzb1olCIT4UTo Apart from One very interesting thing is that the obverse die in the link you provided is earlier as Lee's obverse die has been re-touched - the top 'bear's paw' has had a new 'claw' added

I am wanting to know how many coins recorded struck from similar/same dies its OK saying 86 is recorded but most of them are from different dies, I wasn't going to ask for value, if you take time to read through the thread CR wants to view the coin before they will provide any information and i am not prepared to send them the coin at this stage.

Thank you for the detailed explanation John you have put to words my thoughts, I think the way forward to learn more about this coin is to contact Dr Sills https://www.arch.ox.ac.uk/people/dr-john-a-sills Thank for your time and help i will update the thread if i get to learn more.

Thank you for taking time to look and provide information John appreciated, It's all confusing to me all coins you have listed are Spink reverence 29 fair enough my coin is Spink reverence 29, but every coin is different to mine in one way or another so how do you determine what coin is rare ?, DCCR stated 86 coins recorded how many variants out of the 86 is known, maybe i am missing the obvious, Take this coin for instance just a quick glance it's totally different.

Thanks John i did email them when i first discovered it, they wont tell you anything unless you send them the coin to look at, According to the listing above from 2018 my coin is scarce and in better condition.

Many thanks it's hard to find prices this coin is from the same die https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/chris-rudd/catalogue-id-chris-10019/lot-d7f46bca-8d49-4c6a-8413-a8b201010ba9 But all i can find out is it started at £1400 i know CR will put a come and get me estimate on it so i would presume it went for more, in the listing it states (EF, large flan of golden gold, sharply struck, full horse. Heavyweight, handsome, hard to find in such superlative condition. SCARCE) I guess the only way to find it's true value is to put it through auction but going on the above i would imagine 3/4£K.

Many thanks that group identified it,

Thank you, What sort of value would you put on the coin please it's not for sale but it would be nice to have a ball park figure, the one that CR sold through auction started off at £1400 i don't know the hammer price as they dont publish them but it's condition wasn't a patch on mine

Thanks i thought the quote was disputing it, i know very little about Celtic coins my information was taken from a coin sold by CR that was from the same die. If you haven't guessed i am a metal detetorist the moment i found it.

I found it in a field John. Your welcome thanks for the information, (so its not a rare coin? considered by you) i think Chris considered it scarce maybe it is in this condition? your example is a bit battered around the edge and worn.

North East Coast. Left Type. Sills Mint B, fig.8. c.60-50 BC. Gold stater. 19mm. 6.09g. Wreath motif with leaves facing inwards, horizontal line of pellets below./ Lunate horse left, pellets and crescent above, large pellet below, zigzag exergual decoration. ABC 1722, 0VA 804, BMC 193-99, S 29. SCARCE.

Thanks John that's good to know.

Thank you John i might do a little more toning of the reverse, What sort of value would you put on the coin please it's not for sale but it would be nice to have a ball park figure.

This is about as good as it gets.

:-). https://www.staffordshirehoard.org.uk/conservation-journal/using-thorns-to-conserve-the-hoard