Spaniard Posted October 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2022 Ok....Question is .. What is the best value for money portrait of Julius Ceasar? Actually let's just change that Question to...."The cheapest " way of obtaining a portrait of the said man? Note...None of the following coins are mine. . We've got Macedon, Thessonalica with Divus Augusta and Divus Julius ceasar struck under Tiberius . Julius caesar Nikaia struck in the name of Vibius Panser.. The classic Divus Julius caesar and Divus Augustus galley coins.. Anything out there I'm missing??? Post your cheap Julius caesar coins please.. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted October 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'd say the enigmatic Octavian 'heavy' dupondius is the way to go for a decent one,in my opinion. See the worst of type thread for a cheap Caesar. It was $200-something in c. 2011. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted October 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2022 I think you are on the right path when it comes to a cheaper type: provincial, no silver. There s also he dupondius issue with octavian. A bit more expensive, but imho a better type when it comes to value for money. Perhaps saving some cash for a longer time and go for that type? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted October 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 30, 2022 My personal advice - don't spend too much on the Thessalonica types. This is my personal point of view, again, others might disagree - but I find these coins dull and overrated just because they have Caesar's portrait. But I find this portrait very approximately engraved and dull. And I don't think it has a major historical value as it was struck long after Caesar's death. All the examples I have seen, even the very modest ones, went for 50-60 euros minimum. If you can't afford a Caesar coin from his time (and I can't), the galley dupondius is a very attractive coin. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted October 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Spaniard said: The classic Divus Julius caesar and Divus Augustus galley coins.. Reading the beginning of your post, I was thinking that one exactly, and to be more specific, one cut in half, they're really cheap if you're not looking for a pristine example JULIUS CAESAR and OCTAVIAN – Halved dupondius, Vienna (Gaul), ca. 36 BCE •IM[P• DIVI•IVL•CAESAR•DIVI•F] bare headed portraits of Julius Caesar to left and [Octavian to right] [C•I]•V Prow of galley to right, surmounted by superstructure and mast (CIV for Colonia Ivlia Viennensis) 33 mm – 10,58 gr Ref : RPC # 517 Q 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted October 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Qcumbor said: Reading the beginning of your post, I was thinking that one exactly, and to be more specific, one cut in half, they're really cheap if you're not looking for a pristine example JULIUS CAESAR and OCTAVIAN – Halved dupondius, Vienna (Gaul), ca. 36 BCE •IM[P• DIVI•IVL•CAESAR•DIVI•F] bare headed portraits of Julius Caesar to left and [Octavian to right] [C•I]•V Prow of galley to right, surmounted by superstructure and mast (CIV for Colonia Ivlia Viennensis) Now that is fulfilling the brief precisely. Although you have to make sure you get the right half. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted October 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 30, 2022 The only JC I ever owned was this one, very worn and not pretty at all…but it was a Julius Caesar. Bought it in 2020 for less than 100$, resold it a year later for twice the purchase price. No regrets at all, it’s not in my collecting area anymore. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted October 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 30, 2022 Gaius Julius Caesar Moneyer: Lucius Mussidius Longus Denarius of the Roman Imperatorial Period 42 BC Material: Silver Diameter: 19mm Weight: 3,71g Mint: Rome Reference: Crawford 494/39a, CRI 116, RSC 29, RBW 1742 Provenance: Ex Roma Numismatics London , Ex Burgan Numismatique / Maison Florange Obverse: Laureate head of Caesar, right. Border of dots. Reverse: Cornucopiae on globe; on left, rudder; on right, caduceus and apex. Border of dots. The Inscription reads: L MVSSIDIVS LONGVS for Lucius Mussidius Longus. My actually only Oncle Julius coin … 9 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAg47 Posted October 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 30, 2022 If you're looking to get any Julius Caesar coin for budget, you need patience, luck, and the time to search every nook and cranny of the internet. I got this portrait denarius with his comet issued under Augustus from Vcoins for under 100 dollars, it only took me few minutes (just to make sure it's actually Caesar) from the dealer listing the coin and me buying it. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CPK Posted October 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2022 Lots of money or lots of patience. Preferably both. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted October 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) My only J.C. 'Portrait' coin, (from my 12 Caesars collection), is a (poor) 'Thessalonica one (c/w countermark) JULIUS CAESAR countermarked - Augustus, Thessalonica, Macedonia, 28BC. 9.22gm., AE22mm. RPC 1555 Dupondius-Sestertius Edited October 31, 2022 by Topcat7 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted October 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, John Conduitt said: Now that is fulfilling the brief precisely. Although you have to make sure you get the right half. The right half is the left one. The other is Octavian JULIUS CAESAR and OCTAVIAN – Halved dupondius, Vienna (Gaul), ca. 36 BCE [•IM]P• [DIVI•IVL•CAE]SAR•DIVI•F bare headed portraits [of Julius Caesar to left] and Octavian to right C•[I•V] Prow of galley to right, surmounted by superstructure and mast (CIV for Colonia Ivlia Viennensis) 31,5 mm – 9,96 gr Ref : RPC # 517 Q Edited October 31, 2022 by Qcumbor 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted October 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Spaniard said: What is the best value for money portrait of Julius Ceasar? IMHO this type: Of course it is more expensive than the types shown, but it has the typical Caesar portrait, and you get two rare portraits on one coin. Marcus Antonius AR-Denar, ca. 43 v.C. mint in Gallia Obv: M ANTON IMP Head of Marcus Antonius r., lituus behind Rev: CAESAR DIC Laureate head of Julius Caesar r., jug behind Ag, 3.81g, 18mm Ref: Cr.: 488/1, Sydenham: 1165, Sear 118 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevikens Posted October 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 31, 2022 When one collects the coins of the Triumvirs on a budget one learns to take what you can get and not quibble about condition. Here are three "budget" coins of three of the Triumvirs. The first, the denarius on top is of Julius Caesar. Not only is heavily worn, it was probably not well struck either. Also, although a portrait coin of Caesar, it is also a posthumous issue. Notice that the inscription calls him DIVI IVLI, his proper name and title after his death. It was probably minted ca, 41 BC. Still, it is a portrait coin of the then deified ruler. It is Sear 1428 (2nd version). The coin on the left, bottom is a denarius of Caesar's right hand man, Mark Antony, who was a member of the Second of the Triumvirates'. it is better shape and better struck with Sol on the reverse and the designation III VIR. it is Sear 1468. The third coin is well worn, poorly struck denarius of Sextus Pompey, from the period of the Second Triumvirate. Again, this is posthumous issue by his son but showing his now deceased father, Gnaeus Pompey, the famous one from the First Triumvirate. This coin was issued just before Sextus was killed in battle and may explain the condition of the coin. It circulated for some time and is very worn. It also appears to be heavily debased and I have wondered if it might have been a fourree, however its weight of 3.75 is good and it may have acquired some of its darkness from heavy wear and debased silver from a ruler with his back to the wall when he issued it. Surprisingly, the actual image of Pompey is quite good. It came from the Rindge Collection. It is Sear 1392. Not the most beautiful coins on the block, but when collecting these guys, again, you take what you can get. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Atherton Posted November 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 1, 2022 A very cheap 'Julius Caesar'. Domitian Æ24, 7.25g Philippi mint, 87 AD Obv: IMP CAES DOM AVG GERM COS XIII; Head of Domitian, laureate, l. Rev: COL AVG IVL PHILIPP; Three bases; on middle one, statue of Augustus in military dress crowned by statue of Divus Julius wearing toga, with DIVVS / AVG on base RPC 345 (4 spec.). Ex Musa, October 2021. 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edessa Posted November 1, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2022 These four came from a Heritage Auction back in 2009. Only one was more than $200. While prices have risen, the point is that some well-worn examples of Julius are out there that should not totally break your budget. Just be patient. The Caesarians. Julius Caesar. January-February 44 BC. AR Denarius (19mm, 3.61g, 6h). Rome mint, Lifetime issue. M. Mettius, moneyer. Obv: CAESAR•IMP; Wreathed head right; lituus and simpulum behind. Rev: M METTIVS; Venus Victrix standing left, holding Victory and scepter, resting her left elbow on shield set on celestial globe; G to left. Ref: Crawford 480/3; CRI 100; Sydenham 1056; RSC Caesar 34; RBW 1678 var. (reverse control letter). Toned nice Fine, bankers' marks on obverse. The Caesarians. Julius Caesar. 41 BC. AR Denarius (19mm, 3.08g, 5h). Posthumous issue. Rome mint. L Flaminius Chilo, moneyer. Obv: Laureate head right within pelleted border. Rev: Goddess (Pax or Venus?) standing left, holding caduceus in right hand and scepter in left; L•FLAM[INIVS] downward to right, IIII•VIR upward to left; all within pelleted border. Ref: Crawford 485/1; CRI 113; Sydenham 1089; RSC Caesar 26; RBW-. Toned, near Fine, bankers' marks on obverse. The Caesarians. Julius Caesar. 42 BC. AR Denarius (18mm, 3.71g). Posthumous issue. Rome mint, L. Livineius Regulus, moneyer. Obv: Laureate head of Caesar right between laurel branch and winged caduceus. Rev: Bull charging right.; L•LIVINEIVS above, REGVLVS below. Ref: Crawford 494/24; CRI 115; Sydenham 1106; BMCRR Rome 4274; RSC Caesar 27; RBW 1730. Toned, near Fine, bankers' marks on obverse and reverse. CNG note: Sear suggests that this moneyer is the son of the praetor of the same name who served under Caesar in the African War. It has been proposed that the laurel branch and caduceus on either side of Caesar's head symbolize the peace and prosperity Caesar had hoped to restore to the Roman world by victories over his enemies. The Caesarians. Julius Caesar. 40 BC. AR Denarius (19mm, 3.76g, 11h). Posthumous issue. Rome mint, Tiberius Sempronius Graccus, moneyer. Obv: Laureate head of right, S-C in fields. Rev: TI•SEMPRONIVS above, GR[ACCVS] below, [Q•DESIG] downwards to left; Signum, aquila, plough, and decempeda (measuring rod). Rev: Crawford 525/4a; HCRI 327a; Sydenham 1129; RSC Caesar 47. Near Fine, irregular toning, small banker’s mark on obverse, 20% off-center. Rare. 9 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Germanicus Posted November 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 1, 2022 CAESAR DIVI F - bare head of Octavian rightDIVOS IVLIVS - wreathed head of Divus Julius Caesar rightBronze Sestertius or Dupondius, southern Italy, 38 b.C.30,21 mm / 19,73 grRPC 620; Crawford 535/1; Sear Imperators 308 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor LONGINUS Posted November 4, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 4, 2022 Interesting post, @Spaniard! I don’t own a Julius Caesar coin and there are none on my horizon. I do however have a group of coins that were in circulation during the lifetime of Julius Caesar. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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