Broucheion

Hi All, The actual transcription and translation is at https://armyofromanpalestine.com/0022 . The papyrus was first published in 1991. Does anyone know why it was resurrected for this newspaper story in 2023? - Broucheion

Hi @UkrainiiVityaz, You should be able to view the article online without registration but downloading does need registration. - Broucheion

Hi All, Livia, an Alexandrian example. LIVIA (Under AUGUSTUS: 31 Aug 30 BC - 14 Aug 19 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 41 (11/12 CE) Æ Diobol Size: 25 mm Weight: 6.89 g Axis: 01:00 Broucheion Collection R-1994-08-30.001 Obv: Livia bust facing right. Hair in bun. No legend. Border not visible. Rev: Nike advancing left, wreath in upraised right arm. In left field: [L]; In right field: MA. Border not visible. Refs: Emmett-56.41; Geissen-42; Dattari 61-62; RPC I-5062A,.1 Online (THIS); Milne 27 -28; Vogt II 3; Vogt I 14 and 19/20. Note: RPC URI is https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/5062A [verified 14 Feb 2023]. Provenance: Ex Colosseum Coin Exchange, Auction 78 (30 Aug 1994) - Broucheion

Hi @Starky777, It’s not Ptolemaic, it’s a shekel of Tyre, but I have no idea if it’s real or any attribution. - Broucheion

Hi All, A bit more on the first flight of the 747 and its pilot https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/jack-eugene-wadell/ - Broucheion

Hi @Edessa, Looks like he messed up the MVLT too before recutting the die. - Broucheion

Hi All, JULIA MAESA (UNDER ELAGABALUS: 218 - 11 Mar 222 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 03 (219/220 CE) Bi Tetradrachm Size: 24 mm Weight: 11.0 g Axis: 11:00 Broucheion Collection R-1998-06-19.001 Obv: Julia Maesa draped bust facing right. Legend: OYΛMAICA - CЄBMHTCTPA. Dotted border. Rev: Isis bust draped and wearing headress of moon between plumes, facing left. In left field: L; In right field Γ. Dotted border. Refs: Emmett-3056.03; Geissen-2356; Dattari-4223; Milne-2782; Curtis-1000; BMC-1575/1576; Mionnet-2573; Vogt I, 176; Vogt II, 121 Provenance: ex Hendin (Amphora); ex NFA Fall Mail Bid Sale 1990 (18 Oct 1990) , Lot #2441, pl vi. - Broucheion

Hi @robinjojo,Have you seen any other Eastern owls with any letters on the reverses? If yes, I would think this might be one too. Otherwise, I lean towards a die break. - Broucheion

Hi @Troyden, Did the coin have any associated religious selling points (widow’s mite, tribute penny, etc)? - Broucheion

Hi @Limes, See https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/467642 - Broucheion

Hi @Coinmaster, I thought the same thing too but I found you have to use INSERT to add the photo to the doc file, not cutting and pasting. Then you should see the ‘remove background’ icon at the upper left corner. - Broucheion

Hi @dougsmit, Yes, of course you are correct. I’ve updated the text to reflect that. You are certainly right about the counter marks being fascinating. - Broucheion

Hi All, I mainly collect Ptolemaic coins but over the years I've also broadened my nets to collect any coins from Egypt: Pharaonic, Roman-Egypt, Byzantine-Egypt, and Islamic-Egypt. I would not normally buy the Siglos coin below, since these were probably minted in Asia Minor (See Corfu: "A New Thesis for Siglos and Dareikos"). However, I noticed a countermark at the 3:00 position that I think ties this coin to Pharaonic Egypt. I believe this countermark was applied in Egypt to designate currency in the possession of a temple. The countermark looks to me to be the hieroglyph of a kneeling man worshiping. This resembles the Gardiner List A4 character that is the determinative for "offer, beseech (dw3)" as well as "to hide, conceal (jmn)". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_hieroglyphs#A [verified 21 Jan 2023]. ACHAEMINID: ARTAXERXES I to XERXES II, 455-420 BCE Ar Siglos Size: 15x13 mm Weight: ? (not provided by NGC, I assume this is approx 5.55-5.60) Axis: 11:00 OBV: Great King, bearded, facing right, crowned, two arrows in right, bow in left (half-length figure). Countermark of the hieroglyph of squatting man, worshiping (Gardiner List A4 = dw3, jmn) at 3:00 position. No legend. No border. REV: Lion head (stylized) facing left, roaring with open mouth, within reverse incuse. No legend. No border. Notes: 1. NGC Certification NGC 6555654-035. 2. I base my coin ID on info from Forum https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=siglos [verified 21 Jan 2023]. 3. Countermarked with hieroglyph of a kneeling man worshiping, which is the Gardiner List A4 character, a determinative for "offer, beseech (dw3)" as well as "to hide, conceal (jmn)". See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Egyptian_hieroglyphs#A Please let me know if you agree with my assertion that this coin could have been part of an Egyptian temple treasury. Also, if you know of any papers on Siglos found or circulating in Egypt, I'd appreciate the references. P.S., For a similar situation with an Immitative Athena/Owl tetradrachm, see my post on the other list at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancient-owls.350803/#post-3909062 . And of course, post your Siglos! - Broucheion

Hi All, TIBERIUS II CONSTANTINE (26 Sep 578 - 14 Aug 582 CE) EGYPT, ALEXANDRIA Undated: ca 26 Sep 578 - 14 Aug 582 CE Æ 12 NUMMI Size: 15x17mm Weight: 4.89 g Axis: 11:00 Broucheion Collection B-1989-12-22.001 OBV: Constantius diademed and cuirassed bust facing right, holding globus cruciger in right hand. Legend: [DNCONSTAN]TINVS. Solid border. REV: Large IB with +P monogram between on globe above two steps. In exerge AΛЄΞ. Solid border. Refs: Sear Byzantine-460; DO-56; MIB-0063; Greirson pl 10 #157; BMC 142-145 Notes from Grierson (1982): "Wroth attributed the earliest dodecanummia to Justinian, but there is at Dumbarton Oaks a piece of good style which Ratto attributed, very plausibly, to Justin I, those of Justin II being much inferior in weight and workmanship. The type remained essentially unchanged throughout the century: on the obverse the emperor's name and a profile bust, on the reverse the marks of value IB on either side of a cross; with the mint-mark in the exergue . Minor variations were introduced under Tiberius II - the emperor sometimes holds a short cross, or the cross on the reverse is sometimes replaced by a TP monogram on steps - but his coins are unusually abundant for so short a reign and it seems probable that some of them, as happened elsewhere, were struck under Maurice. (The inscription includes only the Constantinus element in Tiberius' name.)" - Broucheion

Hi @DonnaML, Looks like a die crack (flaw) to me. - Broucheion

Hi All, How about a coin that spans both ("A coin from the Ptolemaic / Seleucid dynasty"). PTOLEMY III EUERGETES (246-222 BCE) ASIA MINOR, CILICIA, PROBABLY TARSUS ca 278 BCE (After Tarsus' Capture by Ptolemy II) Æ Size: 19x20 mm Weight: 6.66 g Die Axis: 01:00 Broucheion Collection P-2019-09-21.001 OBV: Dioscuri, wearing pointed caps surmounted by stars, and holding their spears upright, mounted on prancing horses moving to right. At 10:00 position countermark of Ptolemaic eagle, wings closed, facing right within circular punch. Dotted border. REV: Athena Promachos standing, with spear and shield, brandishing javelin in right hand, shield in left hand, anchor with flukes left below. In left field: [ΒΑ]ΣΙΛΕΩΣ; In right field: ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ. No control. Plain border. Refs: Undertype is SC-565; WSM-1313η (Antiochus II); Koln 59; SNG Spaer 348A Note: Ptolemaic Eagle Countermark. Provenance: Ex Savoca 24th Blue Auction (21 Sep 2019), Lot #538 CPE COMMENTS: "So far, there is no evidence that Ptolemy III struck bronze coinage in Cilicia. Instead it appears that his policy was to countermark bronze coins already circulating in the area. ET Newell (1941) identified as Ptolemaic the eagle countermark that appears on bronzes of Antiochus II from the Tarsus mint (WSM 1312γ & 1313η], with discussion of the countermark on p 223); for another example, see Koln 59. The Ptolemaic eagle countermark also appears on a civic bronze of Adana in the RN Draskowski collection. Davesne redated the series to the Second Syrian War, specifically to the short period from the end of 261 to 259. Davesne 's reattribution is persuasive, because there is a break in the Tarsian coinage of Antiochus II that is filled by the following series, which displays control links to both the preceding and subsequent coinage." CC Lorber (EUROS, 2014): "Alain Davesne showed that these coins interrupted the sequence of Antiochus II, and he proposed a date of issue in the early part of the Second Syrian War, specifically from the end of 261 to 259. ... Unfortunately, we know nothing about Tarsus under Ptolemy II except that his dominance was only an interlude." Next (again): A coin from the Ptolemaic / Seleucid dynasty - Broucheion

Sorry, wrong thread.

HI @Kaleun96, That paper is here https://www.archetai.gr/images/pdfs/efimeris/Publ_A.E._2001.pdf#page=183 See footnote 8 on page 175, but I don't see the coin pictured nor the weight mentioned. - Broucheion

Hi @Kaleun96, For some reason the plates were shifted to around page 176. You can get to plate#2 from here, but the coin is not pictured. Dattari seems to have only mentioned it because it is not an Athenian tetradrachm but was found with the rest. https://archive.org/details/journalinternati89sboruoft/page/n184/mode/1up?q=miNaz+il - Broucheion

Hi @Kaleun96, Very interesting! The Dattari article is available here https://archive.org/details/journalinternati89sboruoft/page/n108/mode/1up?q=Dattari - Broucheion

Hi All, Information on the most complete index of The Celator I know of originally came from @Ed Snible on Forum. See below. The URL for the ANS Library is http://donum.numismatics.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl - Broucheion

Hi @Amarmur, See the article "Counterfeit British Coppers: Introduction" for some information on the topic. This page is part of a project of the Robert H. Gore, Jr. Numismatic Endowment, University of Notre Dame, Department of Special Collections, by Louis Jordan. - Broucheion

Hi All, Here are mine. GALLIENUS (SOLE REIGN: ca Jun 261 - ca Aug 268 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 15 (267/268 CE) Bi Tetradrachm Size: 22x23 mm Weight: 9.17 g Axis: 11:00 Broucheion Collection R-1995-05-10.001 OBV: Gallienus laureate head facing right. Legend: AVTKΠΛIKΓAΛΛIHNOCCЄB. Dotted border. REV: Selene bust facing right into crescent moon. In right field: I above LЄ. Dotted border. Refs: Emmett-3834.15; Geissen-2941 var (Year); Dattari-5265; Curtis-Unlisted Provenance: Frank Robinson 1995; Ex F J Rath (Jan 1973). Next, a Pb tetradrachm of Salonina. SALONINA (SOLE REIGN: 263 - ca Aug 268 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 13 (265/266 CE) Pb Tetradrachm Size: 24x25 mm Weight: 16.1 g Axis: 0 Broucheion Collection R-1997-10-21.005 OBV: Salonina bust facing right. Legend: KOPNHΛIACAΛωNЄINA. Dotted border. REV: Elpis standing facing left holding sprig in right hand. Left hand holds up chiton. In left field: palm branch; In right field IΓ above L. Dotted border. Refs: EM-4286.13 (Unlisted Year); G-2970 var (Year 12 Billon); DAT-5332var (Billon). Provenance: This Pb coin is Ex Alex G Malloy (NY, USA): Auction 47 (17 Oct 1997), Lot #359. Ex Sotheby (16 Mar 1972) - Marcel Jungfleische Collection. Comments: Marcel Jungfleisch (1879-1958) was one of the leading numismatists in the twentieth century. He was from Cairo, Egypt and wrote extensively on Egyptian numismatics. He was a professor of Conservatoire National des Arts et Métiers and a member of the Institute of Egypt. His extensive writings covered Islamic bronze weights from Egypt, Ayyubid glass jetons, Islamic Art Network, Roman Egyptian coins, Nubians in Egypt (1946), Nomes of Egypt (1946), and wrote for the Revue Numismatique in 1955. Sotheby's sold his collection in two vast sales in 1972. 16 Feb, 1972 M Jungfleisch collection Part 1: Ancient and Middle Eastern Coins, and a Fine Numismatic Library. 239 lots. 24 pages + 2 plates. 156 x 246mm. Sotheby. 16 Mar, 1972 Marcel Jungfleisch collection Part 2: The Coinage of Roman Alexandria together with Ancient, English and Foreign Coins. 239 lots. 44 pages + 4 b&w plates. 156 x 246mm. Sotheby. VALERIAN I (ca Sep 253 - ca Sep 260 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 04 (256/257 CE) Bi Tetradrachm Size: 24x25 mm Weight: 12.4 g Axis: 11:30 Broucheion Collection R-2002-02-13.00x OBV: Valerian laureate cuirased bust facing right. Legend: AKΠΛIOYΛЄPIANOCCЄYЄYC. Dotted border REV: Eagle wings closed facing left, head turned to right with diademmed wreath in its beak. In left field: L; In right field: Δ. Dotted border Refs: Emmett-3705.04; Geissen-2862; Dattari-5184; Milne-3945; SNG Copenhagen 757; BMC-2145; Vogt I 152 Provenance: Colosseum Coin Exchange Auction 119 (13 Feb 2000). VALERIAN II (CAESAR under GALLIENUS: 253 - 258 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 04 (256/257 CE) Bi Tetradrachm 22x23 mm 10.70 grams Axis: 12:30 Broucheion Collection R-1998-06-19.002 OBV: Valerianus II bare headed and cuirassed bust facing right. Legend: ΠΛIKKOPOYAΛЄPIANOCKAICCЄB. Dotted border. REV: Eagle, holding wreath in mouth, facing left with head turned back to the right. In left field: L; in right field: Δ. Dotted border. Refs: Emmett-3764.04; Geissen-2991; Dattari-5373 (Saloninus); Milne-3964; Curtiss-1545; ; SNG Copenhagen 825; BMC-2293 (Saloninus); Mionnet-3393 (Saloninus); Vogt I 202f; Vogt II 152; Prevenance: Pegassi Coins (1998 NYSCS Show); Ex Kalmbach Collection SALONINUS CAESAR (257 - ca Sep 260 CE) ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 07 (259/260 CE) Bi Tetradrachm Size: 21x22 mm Weight: 10.7 g Axis: 00:00 Broucheion Collection R-2018-12-09.002 OBV: Saloninus bare-headed, draped and cuirassed bust facing right: Legend: ΠOΛIKOPCAVAΛEPIANOCKCЄB. Dotted border. REV: Alexandria wearing turreted headpiece, standing facing left, holding bust of Serapis with modius in outstretched right hand while left arm cradles spear/scepter. In left field: L; In right field: Z (retrograde). Dotted border. Refs: Emmett-3774.07; Geissen-3007var (Retrograde Z); Dattari-5353var (Retrograde Z); Milne-4030 Prevenance: Naville Numismatics, Live Auction 45 (09 Dec 2018). - Broucheion

Hi All, CLEOPATRA VII & MARCUS ANTONIUS (44-31/30 BCE) CYRENAICA, UNCERTAIN MINT, Summer 31 BCE Æ AS Size: 26 mm Weight: 10.79 g Axis: 0 Broucheion Collection C-2008-12-18-001 OBV: Legend in three lines: [Β]ΑςΙΛ / ΘΕΑ / [ΝΕ]. Solid border. REV: Legend in three lines: ΑΝΤω / ΥΠΑ / Γ. Solid border. Refs: Svoronos 1899, pl. lxiii, 26 [17 listed]; Asolati 158/1 (THIS). RPC I-924 (THIS); Koln 188; see Buttrey, Studies Grierson, pp 26 f. and 34 for mint and denomination. Ex -Stack's (pre-Feb 2011); vCOINS AUCTION (18 Dec 2008), Lot #108; Stack's Coin Galleries (10 Sep 2008) Lot 312. Ex Münzhandlung Basel #6, 18 March 1939. Pictured in Asolati's "Nummi Aenei Cyrenaici" as 158/1. RPC I-0924, #24 (THIS) - https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/326715 [verified 24 Dec 2022]. Featured at wildwinds.com. Note: The Cyrenaica passed to Roman control in 96 BCE. Its coinage thereafter conformed to the Roman monetary system in terns of weights and denominations. (For a catalogue of the coinage of Roman Cyrenaica see TV Buttrey, 'Studies Grierson.') The union of Antony and Cleopatra temporarily reunited the Cyrenaica with Egypt, but the traditional separation of the two coinages was maintained. The reverse legend notes Mark Antony as ΥΠΑ[ΤΟς] Γ, or COS III, which title he assumed at the start of 31 BCE. Next: A silver or gold coin with only inscriptions on either side - Broucheion

Hi @Sulla80 There are dies studies for the last years of Ptolemy VIII plus Ptolemy IX & X (See "Phaphos I" by Morkholm & Nicolaou), NOT available online. There is no die study I know of for Ptolemy XII nor for Cleopatra VII. Also, I've seen older drafts of Lorber's vol II and I suspect her former employer CNG has as well. - Broucheion