Coinmaster Posted February 17 · Member Share Posted February 17 (edited) A bit of topic, but my wife and I just arrived at the Ibis hotel at Trier for the weekend! I like they've got coin pictures on the wall..! Edited February 17 by Coinmaster 23 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted February 17 · Supporter Share Posted February 17 Should be interesting. Any idea where the mint was? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Victor_Clark Posted February 18 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted February 18 12 hours ago, Coinmaster said: I like they've got coin pictures on the wall..! and they missed an opportunity to show any coins from Trier so here's a Trier coin Constantine I A.D. 307 26mm 6.9g FL VAL CONSTANTINVS NOB C; laureate and cuirassed bust right. PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS; Prince, in military dress, holding standard in each hand; S-A across fields. In ex. PTR RIC VI Trier 734 17 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted February 18 · Supporter Share Posted February 18 Nice! If you still have a bit of time today, I can strongly recommend a visit to the Rheinisches Landesmuseum at Trier. Their Roman exhibition is outstanding. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted February 18 · Member Author Share Posted February 18 9 hours ago, John Conduitt said: Should be interesting. Any idea where the mint was? I don't know, I imagine below the hotel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted February 18 · Member Author Share Posted February 18 5 hours ago, Victor_Clark said: and they missed an opportunity to show any coins from Trier I agree! Thanks for sharing this beautiful coin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted February 18 · Member Author Share Posted February 18 15 minutes ago, Ursus said: Nice! If you still have a bit of time today, I can strongly recommend a visit to the Rheinisches Landesmuseum at Trier. Their Roman exhibition is outstanding. That's indeed on the planning today, thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted February 18 · Supporter Share Posted February 18 37 minutes ago, Coinmaster said: That's indeed on the planning today, thanks! In this case: have a good time (and feel free to post some pictures of the Tried gold hoard afterwards)! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted February 18 · Member Author Share Posted February 18 More will follow! 12 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted February 18 · Member Author Share Posted February 18 Oh, there is so much to see, just incredible! Hope you like the photos. 👍🏻 9 1 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted February 18 · Member Author Share Posted February 18 (edited) Me in my element inside the vault exposition room in the museum plus Trier has much more to offer, we have a great time! Edited February 18 by Coinmaster 21 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvk Posted February 18 · Member Share Posted February 18 Great photos, thanks for sharing. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted February 18 · Member Share Posted February 18 (edited) @Coinmaster, Hearty Congratulations on a fantastic trip! ...Aaaah. It being Sunday, Pacific time here, I was just hoping you'd post your own pics of the Porta Niagra. Magnificent shot of the entrance. (Not to mention your lovely wife.) Terrific altidudinal perspective; I love how near you shot it from. That mosaic is fantastic, too. Completely new to me; looking forward to googling for it, which happens next! Given the remarkable style, if it's (edit:) as late as the early 4th century, I'll have learned something new about mosaics! Edited February 18 by JeandAcre 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted February 18 · Member Share Posted February 18 (edited) ...Well, okay, so far, this website dates the mosaic to the 3rd century, without being any more specific. But vague as that is, it's closer to my commensurately impressionistic sense of what it looks like. https://imperiumromanum.pl/en/curiosities/roman-mosaic-showing-triumphant-coachman/ Edited February 18 by JeandAcre 'commensurably' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted February 18 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted February 18 Wow, amazing photos! I have more than half a dozen coins minted in Trier (Treveri). Here are my three favorites. Literally a drop in the bucket compared to all those coins in your hoard photos! Valens (younger brother of Valentinian I, reigned as Emperor in East AD 364-378), AV Solidus, Treveri (Trier) Mint, 1st Officina, issued 376 - mid-377 AD after death of Valentinian I [see Depeyrot pp. 77, 121]. Obv. Pearl-diademed (with double band of pearls held by single rosette gem at top), draped, and cuirassed bust right, DN VALENS – PF AVG / Rev. Valens & Gratian enthroned facing in single large throne, each with left leg uncovered and right hand on a globe between them; above and behind, Victory facing with wings spread; palm-branch on ground between them; VICTOR – IA AVGG around; in exergue, mintmark TROBC [TR = Treveri Mint; OB = “obryzum, which means refined or pure gold, and is the Greek numeral 72. Thus the . . . OB . . . may be read ‘1/72 pound pure gold’” (see https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=CONOB); C = Capita, for 1st Officina (see Depeyrot p. 52)]. 19.5 mm., 4.42 g., 6 h. Depeyrot, Trèves [Trier] 45/1 Valens at p. 121 (45th emission for city since AD 337) (26 examples of type from 1st Officina; 33 overall) [Depeyrot, George, Les Monnaies d'Or de Constantin II à Zenon (337-491) (Wetteren 1996)]; RIC IX 39(d)1 at p. 21; Sear RCV V 19578 (obv. ill. p. 324). Purchased from CNG (Classical Numismatic Group, LLC) Electronic Auction 525, 20 Oct. 2022, Lot 1319; ex. “Conti Collection.”* *This is my only example of a solidus bearing the reverse legend “VICTORIA AVGG” (“To the Victory of the Two Emperors,” see https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=VICTORIA%20AVGG), depicting two reigning emperors enthroned together on the reverse. This type was “for more than a quarter of a century . . . the main gold currency of the western empire,” issued in the names of all the co-emperors during that period, beginning with Valentinian I and Valens in the 360s AD. See RIC IX p. 5 (introduction to Treveri Mint section.) [Remainder of footnote omitted.] Gratian, AR reduced Siliqua, AD 368-375, Trier Mint [Emperor in West, AD 367-383]. Obv. Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right, D N GRATIA-NVS P F AVG / Rev. Helmeted Roma seated left on throne, holding Victory on globe in right hand, and scepter in left hand, VRBS ROMA; in exergue, TRPS• (Trier Mint; PS = pvsvlatvm, struck from refined silver). RIC IX 27f(1) at p. 19, RSC V 86a, Sear RCV V 19964. 17 mm., 2.0 g. Magnus Maximus [Emperor in West AD 383-388 by usurpation from Gratian], AR reduced Siliqua, AD 383-388, Trier Mint. Obv. Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right, DN MAG MAX-IMVS PF AVG [AV ligatured] / Rev. Helmeted Roma seated facing on throne, head left, holding globe in right hand and reversed spear in left hand, VIRTVS RO-MANORVM; in exergue, TR PS [TR = Trier Mint; PS = Pvsvlatvm (struck from refined, purified silver; see Sear RCV V, Introduction p. 7)]. 1.90 g., 16.32 x 16.08 mm., 12 h. RIC IX 84(b)(1) (p. 29), RSC V 20b (ill. p. 176), Sear RCV V 20644 (p. 422); Ghey 56f (this coin) [Ghey, E., “Vale of Pewsey, Wiltshire,” unpublished catalogue held by British Museum]. Purchased 17 May 2022 from Noonans (f/k/a Dix Noonan Webb) Auction, “The Vale of Pewsey Hoard of Late Roman Silver Coins,” Lot 82; ex Vale of Pewsey Hoard, discovered in Wiltshire 12-13 Sep. 2020, Portable Antiquities Scheme Hoard ID BM-7D34D9 (see https://finds.org.uk/database/hoards/record/id/3305 ). [Footnote omitted.] 12 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted February 18 · Member Share Posted February 18 Coinmaster, Thanks for sharing your Trier experience & the lovely photos 🤩. I'm ashamed to say after spending 18 months in Germany I never got to Trier ☹️. Pictured below are a few of my favorite coins from Roman-Trier ☺️. Constantine I, AD 307-330 (struck AD 307/8). AE Follis: 6.65 gm, 26 mm, 6 h. Reverse: Mars with spear & Shield. Ex Spink 169, July 15, 2004. 9 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Posted February 18 · Supporter Share Posted February 18 Amazing coins, @Al Kowsky. Beautiful and such pristine states with high straight grades! Particularly love the nummus of Galerius. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted February 19 · Member Share Posted February 19 (edited) Great photos, thank for sharing them. I'm now wildly determined to visit Trier soon. Here is an Argenteus from Trier in the name of Constantine I. These coins are of poor silver and usually in poor quality. This coin is well above average. Obv: IMP CONSTANTINVS AVG. Rev: VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP / PTR. On the shield: VOT/ PR RIC 208a. Edited February 19 by Tejas 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted February 19 · Member Share Posted February 19 The explanations to the coin hoard of Meckel is particularly interesting. Now I know that a follis would have been the daily salary of a donkey driver, a labourer or bought me 25 eggs or 1/2 a liter of honey. 80 of them would have bought me a cow and 160 a military cloak. For 250 folles I could have hired a lawyer for a pladoyer. 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted February 19 · Member Share Posted February 19 Here is another coin from Trier. This is a common coin, but I like this one in particular for its very attractive portrait of Constantine: 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted February 19 · Member Share Posted February 19 13 hours ago, Rand said: Amazing coins, @Al Kowsky. Beautiful and such pristine states with high straight grades! Particularly love the nummus of Galerius. Rand, Thanks for the comments ☺️. I won the Galerius follis at auction 7 years ago, aside from the condition, I was impressed by the weight of the coin. Diocletian era folles weigh on average about 10.50 gm, so 13.15 gm is hefty 😲. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted February 19 · Supporter Share Posted February 19 Beautiful pictures, @Coinmaster! I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the museum. I visited it shortly before the pandemic hit in 2020 and was really impressed by their collection. The presentation of the coin hoards as big piles with a few chosen highlighted examples is not quite to my taste, but I get that there isn't enough exhibition space to show each coin on its own. In general, the Rheinisches Landesmuseum in my opinion does a fantastic job at keeping its exhibition both educational and accessible. 8 hours ago, Tejas said: For 250 folles I could have hired a lawyer for a pladoyer. I guess that lawyers were already expensive back then. (Not complaining: mine were usually worth every penny.) Also, I'll take the chance to show some of my coins from Trier. Note the fur-lined coat visible on Constanine's left shoulder on the first coin. This type of coat only appears on coins from Trier: Constantine II, Roman Empire, AE3, 326AD, Trier. Obv: CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C, bust of Constantine II, laureate, draped, cuirassed, l. Rev: PROVIDENTIAE CAESS, camp gate with two turrets, star above; in exergue, STR crescent. 19mm, 3.01g. Ref: RIC VII Treveri 479. On this coin, Helena is wearing an imperial mantle. This is very untypical for female busts. I wonder whether this way caused by an engraver's error or iconograpic choice: Helena, Roman Empire, AE3, 327–328 AD, Trier mint. Obv: FL HELENA AVGVSTA; bust of Helena, wearing necklace and mantle, r. Rev: SECVRITAS REIBUBLICE; Securitas, draped, standing l., raising robe with r. hand and lowering branch with l. hand, in exergue, PTRE. 19mm, 2.88g. Ref: RIC VII Treveri 508. Constans, Roman Empire, AE3, 348–350 AD, Trier mint. Obv: D N CONSTANS P F AVG; bust of Constans, pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed, r. Rev: FEL•TEMP•REPARATIO; phoenix, radiate, standing r. on rocky mound; in exergue, TRP•. 16mm, 2.33g. Ref: RIC VIII Treveri 228. Valens, Roman Empire, AR siliqua, 367–378 AD, Trier mint. Obv: DN VALENS PF AVG; bust of Valens, draped, cuirassed, and pearl-diademed, r. Rev: VRBS ROMA; Roma seated l. on throne, holding Victory on globe and sceptre; in exergue TRPS•. 17mm, 1.71g. Ref: RIC IX Treveri 27E/45B. 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted February 19 · Member Share Posted February 19 (edited) @Ursus, regarding your rare (and otherwise astounding) example of Helena in an imperial mantle, I have to lean --very speculatively-- to the side of it having been intentional, especially this late in Constantine's reign. Particularly in light of her having been conspicuously Christian, relative to her son's ongoing appropriation of his own adherence to that community. To mix cliche instead of metaphor, that's my two cents, for what they're worth. (Instant edit:) Anyway, that one Kicks something All Over the Block. Edited February 19 by JeandAcre 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted February 19 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted February 19 (edited) Trier is a wonderful, picturesque city to visit, with solid Roman roots. I was there in 1987 and loaded up on German wine. Since I was traveling only with a carryon bag, the trip back to the US with an overloaded bag full of wine bottles was an adventure. I did crazy things like that back then. Now I do different crazy things. This is my only Roman coin from that city: Postumus, double sestertius, Treveri, 260-69 AD. LAETITA reverse. RIC 143 33mm, 27.97 grams Edited February 19 by robinjojo 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted February 20 · Member Share Posted February 20 Seeing the double sestertius posted by robinjojo triggered my memory about a Postumus sestertius in my collection ☺️. Postumus, AD 260-269 (struck AD 261). Trier Mint, 3rd emission. AE Sestertius: 25.49 gm, 31.5 mm, 6 h. Obverse: Laureate, draped, & cuirassed bust of Postumus. Reverse: Victory holding wreath & palm branch, advancing left, seated captive on ground. RIC V 170. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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