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  1. I suppose coins are not guilty of crimes of their owners. Collect coins, not slabs … not the sinners who owed them.
  2. This fourree tremissis with a similar design was found in Archlebov in Moravia. This further reduces the possibility of its gold version being minted by the Byzantines in Spain and it makes it more likely to be produced in the Allemani territory or even further east in Langobardian territory. Zeman, Tomáš. “Zeman, T. 2022: Zlaté a Stříbrné Mince Doby Stěhování Národů Na Moravě - Nové Objevy i Revize Nálezového Fondu.” Folia numismatica 36/1 (2022): 21–49.
  3. This is an interesting post. For some reason, I picture the process involving heating the flans and potentially a basin or pot to cool them. The coins I collect, which are from a later period, have an irregular rim shape. One side is often flattened, as if it was held by tongues. The location of this flatness varies between each coin, suggesting it was part of the coin minting process, not part of the die. Please see the same die pair, I have more examples if needed (2-3 coins per die pair only). What is interesting, the impression on the rim never affects the rest of the flan inside. This may mean that a very hot and soft flan was placed on the anvil by tongues leaving the tongue impression. This was followed by a strike and after this metal was harder, so that the coin could be removed withough damaging the image. However, this would also mean that the rim would be present before the coin was struck and not part of the die. I cannot workout how this could work or if see this all wrong? 

  4. Italian is fine with all the technologies we have. Finding those publications was not easy, though. I remember 'hunting' them in auctions, like a couple shown below. It was hard to find them, and with auction fees/postage, the cost of an article was like that of a book. Hopefully, more publications are coming online now.
  5. Theodat's follises are indeed very nice and hard to get. @Tejas may well have the largest privately own set of them. I was a bit surprised to find that Arslan & Metlich managed to find 187 of them in their die study 20 years ago. With 20 obverse dies and 64 reverse dies known at the time, it must have been a considerable issue. I wish there was a more recent analysis.
  6. I suppose the "not suitable for US import" statement makes this sale an important provenance. While non-US customers may be able to buy the coins at discounted price, the coins may be forever doomed for a future sale to the US or even bringing personal collections there.
  7. These are certainly interesting contexts. I hope (from a collector's perspective) that a small number of coins was still produced in Britain in 410-660, perhaps after 500, when there was some trade with the continent and some Frankish settlers were moving to Kent. Anglo-Saxons may even have participated in Italian Ostogothic wars and wars in Gaul in the next decades. This would explain some very rare gold coins of the period found in England. Any local produce would follow that of Franks/Visigoths (so gold coins) and thus may be difficult to distinguish. Still, a number of coins found in England are not known from the continent.
  8. This makes sense to me, but would lead to a different conclusion for the study: the coins were minted from old recycled silver rather than Byzantine silver. It would be good to see analyses of Italian silver of the period which would also be recycled and contemporary eastern coin silver from Persia.
  9. The accepted refining processes could have influenced the metal content, potentially leading to contaminants. The analysis heavily relies on isotopes of lead, which is not the primary coin metal—I am unsure if some of it could have been introduced/lost during the alloy preparation. Were there any technological changes in silver refinery/minting practised around the same time the Melle became active, which could have contributed to the alloy composition? While appearance of Melle silver in coins is expected, the uniformity of ealier silver and the lack of obvious transition to new silver still puzzles me.
  10. What happened to Roman silver, and what could have been the context of the silver influx from Byzantine to English? Were at least some coins produced from Roman coin silver? There was a prolonged time gap between Byzantine silver reaching England and minting coins. The silver was likely to undergo several rounds of recycling for jewellery and other items before being used for the coins. Is it not surprising to see such a uniform pattern of findings, with the metal content remaining consistent across a range of coin types?
  11. It was a good and very interesting study. I hope I did not put you off sharing your knowledge. Apologies if I did. Historical/archaeological context put the coins in a very different 'life story' perspective. This is not what I thought based on the coins in the hoard, even assuming some very rare Antiochian solidi were part of the hoard. Is there information about the find location (I do not need details)?
  12. I hoped to map Anastasian gold coins found in Italy. I traced 14 hoards/finds but only have photos of coins from one, the 1938 San Lorenzo di Pusteria Hoard, and even for this one from a group photo of one coin side. The monster Mare Nostrum Hoard was also found around Italy, but it could be from the waters of neighbouring countries, and the story does not say where. We only know what its coins say. Gold coins tell a different story, one of trade and international relationships. I wish we had an Italian equivalent of Demo. The above is an interesting study, but the story is not complete without showing non-Ostrogothic coins found in the same area (some are mentioned in the text).
  13. Thank you, @Vel Saties! The treasure has been exceptionally analysed and presented. I applaud the public access to the individual coin catalogue. I can only wish this approach became universal. The coins are breathtaking. Olybrius's solidi are stunning. Le immagini sono di proprietà della Soprintendenza Archeologia Belle Arti e Paesaggio per le Province di Como, Lecco, Monza e Brianza, Pavia, Sondrio e Varese. https://www.numismaticadellostato.it/web/pns/patrimonio/vetrine/ricerca-avanzata?p_p_id=vetrineFormRicercaAvanzata_WAR_FSIA6_Numismatica10_INSTANCE_M6Mg&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-1&p_p_col_count=1&_vetrineFormRicercaAvanzata_WAR_FSIA6_Numismatica10_INSTANCE_M6Mg_actionName=dettaglioMonetaVetrina&_vetrineFormRicercaAvanzata_WAR_FSIA6_Numismatica10_INSTANCE_M6Mg_idMoneta=7028&_vetrineFormRicercaAvanzata_WAR_FSIA6_Numismatica10_INSTANCE_M6Mg_navigator=6421&_vetrineFormRicercaAvanzata_WAR_FSIA6_Numismatica10_INSTANCE_M6Mg_javax.portlet.action=invoke
  14. This is an amazing hoard. I am looking forward to seeing it published with all coins listed and photographed. It should be a great source for numismatic and historical studies. Of interest, do Brera and other numismatic collection in Milan have online collections of late Roman and Ostrogothic period coins? Arlan has published a few interesting coins, but I hope there are many more.
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