panzerman Posted January 21 · Member Share Posted January 21 Is there a recent version with colour plates to be had? Also book on Sasanian coinage with colour plates..... John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted January 21 · Member Share Posted January 21 ...Oh, boy, you're tuned to The Clueless Channel on both fronts, @panzerman. Just, Best of Luck. If you have any, please report! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nap Posted January 21 · Member Share Posted January 21 You may have to write it! As far as I know, such a book does not exist. Recent publications on Merovingian coins have focused on individual areas. The vastness of the coinage has been explored over a hundred years ago, but nobody has recreated the massive sources of Belfort and Prou. I believe there is a French volume of Medieval European Coinage (MEC) in preparation, but I don't know anything more. The title is "The Age of the Denier" though, so it may focus more on the later silver coinage. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Posted January 21 · Supporter Share Posted January 21 (edited) I have been looking for a good contemporary book on Merovingian coins and could not find one. Also, I do not see many books with great photos, like those in auction catalogues. Moreover, I see few journal publications with good photos. Poor photos often illustrate good written material. I think the main issue is getting the images and it is hard to resolve. For example, to reproduce a photo of a coin from the British Museum, one has to pay £45 for 1,001-2,000 total combined print runs and downloads (ex-VAT). I am not even sure if this is for one side or two. If a good book on Merovingian coins had 1000 images, this already costs $68,000 with VAT; providing separate payments is unnecessary for obverses and reverses. But even this would be relatively easy. The authors would need to work with many museums in many collecting areas. Many museums may not have adequate photography services. Visiting them to take photos would be even more expensive, and some museums (including the British Museum) would not allow this. Many auction houses have excellent photos, but they may also want to charge for commercial books (I am unsure). Even if they agree to do this for free, there will be a lot of work and agreements to do with individual dealers. A book on Merovingian coins should be relatively easy, though - due to a small area of circulation and few museums and dealers involved. Bibliothèque nationale has photos already. Even doing quality photos personally is not a bargain. I am considering buying a setup, which would cost c. $6,000 even without a camera. So, any book with good colour plates is an appreciated effort, which may not be commercially lucrative. Edited January 21 by Rand 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoderic Posted January 21 · Member Share Posted January 21 What about Georges Depeyrot's "Le Numeraire Merovingien L'Age de L'Or" published in 1998? It's only 199 pages with 8 plates (black & white, not color) but it seems to be the most recent overview and is usually cited in auction listings alongside Prou and Belfort. I can't read a word of French though, so I never bought it or any of the additional 4 volumes covering the silver deniers. If any of our French readers have an opinion on Depeyrot's work I would appreciate their comments. Perhaps it is worth slogging through it with Google Translate? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted January 21 · Member Share Posted January 21 (edited) @Theoderic, having had exactly zero French in school, I can heartily recommend French reference books like this. (Journal articles? nnnNot so much!) Between how much of the primary content runs to proper nouns, and the profusion of other French words (esp. verbs and easy nouns) that closely echo latinate English ones (by now the preponderance of our vocabulary <--see?), they're surprisingly easy to navigate. Typically, I only need resort to Google Translate in more extreme cases. Honest, as a confirmed monophone, this is the only language I can say this about. Edited January 21 by JeandAcre vocabubulary ...andthen the desktop had a major electro-neural epsode ...I Need a new machine 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinmaster Posted January 27 · Member Share Posted January 27 (edited) Arent Pol from The Netherlands (university of Leiden) is working on a book for several decades now. He has (I've heard) a database of c. 15.000 coins from this era. I realy hope he can finish his life's work real soon... Edited January 27 by Coinmaster 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted January 28 · Member Author Share Posted January 28 18 hours ago, Coinmaster said: Arent Pol from The Netherlands (university of Leiden) is working on a book for several decades now. He has (I've heard) a database of c. 15.000 coins from this era. I realy hope he can finish his life's work real soon... There is "hope" out there! I should send him photo of my unique AV Triens (Theudebertus II) John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted January 28 · Supporter Share Posted January 28 (edited) I don't know about merovingian, but the following has some nice colour plates for Sassanian : You can find it here : https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/charles_davis/44/product/gyselen_new_evidence_for_sasanian_numismatics_the_collection_of_ahmad_saeedi/107834/Default.aspx Q Edited January 28 by Qcumbor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted January 28 · Member Author Share Posted January 28 Thanks Q/ I think I will order this book. I was looking for a book on Sasanian coinage. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted February 2 · Member Share Posted February 2 @panzerman if you want, I can try to find this @Theoderic "Le Numeraire Merovingien L'Age de L'Or" published in 1998? It has been printed in Wetteren, it is not so far from Antwerp, so maybe, I can help you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broucheion Posted February 2 · Member Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, antwerpen2306 said: "Le Numeraire Merovingien L'Age de L'Or" Hi All, The Table of Contents is on Academia.edu at https://www.academia.edu/2503261/M_10_G_Depeyrot_Le_numéraire_mérovingien_lâge_de_lor_I_Introduction_1998_200_p_ISBN_90_74623_15_8 - Broucheion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted February 4 · Member Share Posted February 4 There are 4 books for le numéraire mérovingien, so I think it is difficult and very expensive ttps://www.mediatheques-grandpoitiers.fr/search.aspx?SC=DEFAULT&QUERY=Parent_id_exact%3a"773302"&QUERY_LABEL=Recherche+de+volumes&QUERY_SORT=VolumeNumber_sort&QUERY_SORT_ORDER=0#/Search/(query:(InitialSearch:!t, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel Saties Posted April 5 · Member Share Posted April 5 You can try to see the "catalogue des monnaies francaises de la Bibliotheque Nationale: les monnaies merovingiennes" by Maurice Prou, Paris 1892 consultable online on the BNF-Gallica website and available for download https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k3990533/ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted May 6 · Member Share Posted May 6 (edited) On 1/21/2024 at 8:00 AM, Nap said: You may have to write it! As far as I know, such a book does not exist. ... I believe there is a French volume of Medieval European Coinage (MEC) in preparation, but I don't know anything more. The title is "The Age of the Denier" though, so it may focus more on the later silver coinage. I'm not holding my breath for a MEC volume covering the Merovingians. MEC I (Cambridge, 1986) had some coverage of the Merovingians, with a dozen black and white plates covering some 300 coins. It's the most credible English-language publication I know. A French coin shop sells its version of Prou Merovingiennes (Paris, 1892): Prou, Maurice. PROU II: CATALOGUE DES MONNAIES FRANÇAISES DE LA BIBLIOTHÈQUE NATIONALE, LES MONNAIES MÉROVINGIENNES. Paris: Comptoir Général Financier, 2003 reprint. Thick 8vo, original pictorial boards. 630 pages; 1081 photos, 2914 coins, 36 plates. A relatively recent reprint of the enormously important and very rare original. Clain-Stefanelli 5769.* Grierson 119. € 59 @ cgb.fr. I'd be curious to know if anyone has Depeyrot, which seems to be the most up-to-date reference, but for whom the cost/benefit remains uncertain (even for us French-speakers). Edited May 7 by Anaximander Reduced photo size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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