prideofman Posted December 25, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) I may have a line from a person willing to sell me this stater but a few things look off to me. What do you all say? It's hard to really get a feel for realism without holding it in my hand and these are the pictures the seller sent. The reverse does not look like any examples I have come across online. Does anyone recognize the mint mark? Edited December 25, 2023 by prideofman 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted December 25, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2023 Looks like Kition under Pumiathon although I don’t know about authenticity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideofman Posted December 25, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 Thank you! The thing that had me take a second look was the placement of the wreath on the reverse, where Nike is holding it. Every example I have seen online to compare it shows the wreath above Nike's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmarcovan Posted December 26, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 26, 2023 I'm not qualified to assess authenticity, though I will say that nothing looks blatantly wrong to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmarcovan Posted December 26, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 26, 2023 PS- welcome to the forums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonW Posted December 26, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 26, 2023 Hard to tell from these blurry pictures. But why take the risk and spend a lot of money on an expensive coin that the seller is not even willing to take sharp and professional pictures of? 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted December 28, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) I don't think that's how authentication actually works. No information, no metrics, no provenance......yep that's the way to do it!!!!! Meanwhile, ATTICA, Athens. Circa 86-81 BC. Æ (31mm, 9.45 g). Helmeted head of Athena right / Owl standing right, head facing, on amphora; all within laurel wreath. BUT, not always! This if it was silver and weighed c 16.80g would resemble a NewStyle tetradrachm c 135BC. There is no coin of this type of MENED in AEand the weight is a fantasy! This "coin" is probably a modern tourist cast Fake, not even a fouree! No such AE coin of the period 86-81 looks like this having magistrates names and controls nor Asklepios posing!! Also the wreath is often described as a olive wreath! Edited December 28, 2023 by NewStyleKing 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerman Posted December 28, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 28, 2023 The wreath placement is usually like mine from Salamis/ struck under Nikokreon..... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted December 28, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2023 I would never buy such a coin from other than a reputable dealer who guarantees authenticity and would refund should the coin be proven fake ... unless I know very well the said coinage Q 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted December 30, 2023 · Member Share Posted December 30, 2023 I see the egregious fake on NN London . lot 324, has been withdrawn now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted December 30, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, NewStyleKing said: I see the egregious fake o Though few others will see it, as they have hidden the photo (a Leu trick too) so no-one who hasn't screenshotted it can reference it for the undoubted future attempts to sell it. I wish Biddr (et al) had a rule about not allowing that. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor rNumis Posted December 30, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted December 30, 2023 For now, it's still on SixBid Lot: 324 | ATTICA, Athens | Online Auction 43 | N&N LONDON LTD | Sixbid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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