Amarmur Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2023 Was thinking of getting a Julius Caesar after saving up. I think this one looks authentic. The dealer said it was a metal detector find in Sirmium. It weighs 2.6 grams. It dates from 44 bc Jan-Feb It has a bankers mark on the obverse. Hope it's the real deal. My apologies for asking for so much help. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted September 3, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2023 That is a really light weight, though it could just be heavily crystallized in addition to the wear. The coin doesn't scream fake to me but I'd be very cautious about a portrait JC denarius just because they're so popular to fake. Is it an established and trusted dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, CPK said: That is a really light weight, though it could just be heavily crystallized in addition to the wear. The coin doesn't scream fake to me but I'd be very cautious about a portrait JC denarius just because they're so popular to fake. Is it an established and trusted dealer? I did talk about the weight he said it's likely underweight due to being underground and the cleaning process He seems pretty reputable, he has his own online store outside of eBay. The dealer is based in Serbia. I know Bulgarian fakes are extremely convincing. He showed me pics of the edge as well and there is no sign of casting. None of his other coins strike me as fake either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted September 3, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2023 Im no expert, and this one does not scream fake, but it would make me uncomfortable. You could check the database on Forum Ancient Coins, and try to find a matching die pair on ACsearch. Maybe that can help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted September 3, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2023 I really don't like the look either. Plenty of porosity and the weight issue...I would recommend against it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 The weight is low but it isn't alarming I seen a JC portrait coin being sold by eternitycoin on eBay that is 2.9 grams. I kind of have faith here that it's genuine. paxromanacoins.com is the sellers website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2023 I wouldn't trust it, mainly for the weight. Mine has a yucky surface, but the weight is decent and it was from a very popular Vcoins dealer.Julius Caesar (February-March 44 B.C) AR Denarius Lifetime Issue O: Wreathed head of Caesar right; CAESAR downward to right, DICT PERPETVO upward to left. R: Venus Victrix standing left, holding Victory in outstretched right hand and vertical scepter in left; L • BVC[A] downwards to right. L. Aemilius Buca, moneyer. Rome Mint 3.92g 17mm Crawford 480/8; Alföldi Type XIV, 62–3, 67, and 69 (A13/R22); CRI 105; Sydenham 1061; RSC 23; RBW 1683. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted September 3, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2023 2,6 grams is VERY low. I would be very cautious too Q 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2023 That coin is not worn/flan-damaged enough to be so underweight, unless it's a fourrée. RR coins ought to firmly be in the 3-4g(+/-) range. Anything well under 3g, throws up flags. After looking at the seller's 'website', it would be a big "nope" for me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 Well, I guess that's a blues moment for me. I was really looking forward to getting a Caesar denarius. I was even willing to shell out $500 for it! I'm not really looking forward to gambling for a possible fake. I hope one will come on the market eventually that is $500 or less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted September 3, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Herodotus said: That coin is not worn/flan-damaged enough to be so underweight, unless it's a fourrée. RR coins ought to firmly be in the 3-4g(+/-) range. Anything well under 3g, throws up flags. After looking at the seller's 'website', it would be a big "nope" for me. Are there other fakes on his website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted September 4, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2023 21 hours ago, Amarmur said: Are there other fakes on his website? I think he has real coins on there. But that doesn't mean the $500 one isn't fake. I wouldn't risk anything I wouldn't be prepared to lose, particularly if the seller is in Serbia. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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