5 Good Emperors • Senatus Consulto Collection

[LONGINUS]

I received my latest Seleucis and Pieria addition the other day.

I spread out my provincial coins on the desk and realized that I had a complete set of 5 Good Emperors with the SC reverse.

Anyway, my latest is the Marcus Aurelius in the lower right of the poster.

 

 

 

Antoninus Pius McAllee reference corrected. Thanks, @Al Kowsky

 

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2023 by LONGINUS

[Nerosmyfavorite68]

Those are some well-presented and very handsome coins!

[Hughie Dwyer]

Very nice series of coins. I'm still working on mine. However, my collection of the '5 Good Emperors' is just denarii - not specific types like yours!

So far, only a Marcus Aurelius eludes me

[Al Kowsky]

1 hour ago, LONGINUS said:

I received my latest Seleucis and Pieria addition the other day.

I spread out my provincial coins on the desk and realized that I had a complete set of 5 Good Emperors with the SC reverse.

Anyway, my latest is the Marcus Aurelius is in the lower right of the poster.

 

 

 

Deacon Ray, That's a wonderful group of coins from Antioch, all of which are in choice condition 🤩! Your example issued by Antoninus Pius is listed by McAlee in his Group 2 listing, so it couldn't be 555(i) because 555(i) has no eagle on the reverse. In fact I have the example of 555(i) pictured in McAlee's book in my collection 😏, see photo below. Instead, your coin appears to be 563(i), a semis that is struck in orichalcum. McAlee's 555(i) is an as that is struck in bronze, as all coins are from Group 1. 

 

 

[Ryro]

Cool set!

Believe it or not, but the SC on your provincials are for "Syria Coele" and not Senatus Consulto as we see on the reverse of many coins from Rome. 

Here are a few that are for Senatus consulto and not the province Syria Coele:

[John Conduitt]

21 minutes ago, Ryro said:

Believe it or not, but the SC on your provincials are for "Syria Coele" and not Senatus Consulto as we see on the reverse of many coins from Rome.

I believe there is ongoing debate about this. There’s doubt about SC being Senatus Consulto because the senate didn’t have jurisdiction, although they could perhaps have ratified an order from the emperor, and because SC appears on silver coins too. Perhaps it was simply copied from imperial issues.

But even if it doesn’t, it might not be Syria Coele, not least because it should really be CS and because Syria Coele wasn’t a thing between 64BC and 198.

[Ryro]

8 minutes ago, John Conduitt said:

I believe there is ongoing debate about this. There’s doubt about SC being Senatus Consulto because the senate didn’t have jurisdiction, although they could perhaps have ratified an order from the emperor, and because SC appears on silver coins too. Perhaps it was simply copied from imperial issues.

But even if it doesn’t, it might not be Syria Coele, not least because it should really be CS and because Syria Coele wasn’t a thing between 64BC and 198.

Thanks! You would know better than I.

I do know that it sure is murky. But I can't get past how strange (and ballsy) it would be for a province to put the stamp of the Senate on its reverse. But I should not have stated so boldly something that is up for debate.

[Roman Collector]

 Wonderful set, @LONGINUS, with a fantastic presentation, as usual! The only one of these I have is a Trajan.

Trajan, AD 98-117.
Roman Provincial Æ 29 mm, 15.86 g, 12 h.
Syria, Seleucis and Pieria, Antioch, AD 115-116.
Obv: ΑΥΤΟΚΡ ΚΑΙϹ ΝΕΡ ΤΡΑΙΑΝΟϹ ΑΡΙϹΤ ϹΕΒ ΓΕΡΜ ΔΑΚ, laureate head, right. Countermark: laurel branch in incuse rectangle, Howgego 378 (69 sp.).
Rev: S·C in laurel wreath; Є below.
Refs: RPC III 3616; cf. BMC 20, p. 185, 286 (with same countermark); Wruck 196; McAlee 489(e).

[Qcumbor]

Cool sideway to honouring the "five good" emperors DR

Q

[Ancient Coin Hunter]

Very nice coins @LONGINUS - I also have a couple starting with Domitian. On the matter of SC I thought it was Coele-Syria after I was corrected on the old forum for saying it was Senatus Consulto. Then I was told in fact, that it was Senatus Consulto. So who knows.