nikitov Posted June 9, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 9, 2022 Archaic coins are until ~480 BC. I know their designs aren't natural looking but I just _adore_ their rigid & stiff looking designs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrachyEnjoyer Posted June 9, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, nikitov said: Archaic coins are until ~480 BC. I know their designs aren't natural looking but I just _adore_ their rigid & stiff looking designs. Hi Nikitov 👋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted June 9, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) Two small coins before 500BC Ephesos (550-500 BC) AR Hemiobol Obv.: Bee Rev.: Incuse square punch. Ag, 0.44g, 7.20mm Ref.: Rosen 572 Lydia, Kings of Lydia, Kroisos circa 560-546 BC Obv.: On the left, forepart of lion with open mouth to right confronting, on the right, forepart of bull to left. Rev.: Incuse square Ag, 7x8mm,0.87g Ref.: Berk 26–7. Traité I 413. SNG Kayhan 1020-1. SNG Aulock 8213. Edited June 9, 2022 by shanxi 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 9, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) Troas Assos 500-450 BCE AR Tetartemorion 6.4mm 0,21g Griffin r Astragalos incuse Klein 475 Rare Kolchis 5th-4th C BCE BI hemidrachm 11.5mm 1.8g Archaic female head possibly Georgian goddess Dali - Bull head border SNG Cop 98 Kebren AR Obol Archaic hd Apollo Left - Hd Ram in Incuse sq 5th C BCE 7.65mm 0.64g SNG Ash 1086 Ex: @Steve Ionia Kolophon AR Tetartemorion 530-520 BCE Archaic Apollo Incuse Punch 0.15g 4.5mm- SNG Kayhan 343 Left old Persia Achaemenid Empire Darius I 510-486 BC AR 0.11g 5mm 1-32nd Siglos Persian hero-king in running incuse Klein 758 R Edited June 10, 2022 by Alegandron 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 9, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) THRACO-MAKEDON TRIBES- MYGDONES or KRESTONES 480-470 BCE AR Obol 0.79g 11mm Goat Quadripartite incuse square AMNG III 14 Makedon Alexander I 498-454 BCE AR Obol 10mm 0.75g Horse - Quadripartite incuse sq SNG ANS 32 Rare ARGOLIS Argos 490-470 BC AR Triobol 14mm 2.9g Forepart of wolf lying - A 2 incuse sqs pellet crossbar within shallow sq incuse BCD Peloponnesos 1009 RARE Ionia AR Tetartemorion 4mm 0.13g 530-500 BCE Rosette - Incuse sq punch 5 pellets SNG von Aulock 1807 Ionia Klazomenai 480-400 BC AR Drachm Pentobol 3.5g 13mm Forepart winged boar r gorgoneion incuse sq Cf SNG Copenhagen 12 Rare Edited June 9, 2022 by Alegandron 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikitov Posted June 9, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, TheTrachyEnjoyer said: Hi Nikitov 👋 Hi TheTrachyEnjoyer 👋😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikitov Posted June 9, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, shanxi said: Two small coins before 500BC Ephesos (550-500 BC) AR Hemiobol Obv.: Bee Rev.: Incuse square punch. Ag, 0.44g, 7.20mm Ref.: Rosen 572 Lydia, Kings of Lydia, Kroisos circa 560-546 BC Obv.: On the left, forepart of lion with open mouth to right confronting, on the right, forepart of bull to left. Rev.: Incuse square Ag, 7x8mm,0.87g Ref.: Berk 26–7. Traité I 413. SNG Kayhan 1020-1. SNG Aulock 8213. I adore the Croesus coins! It's so weird to me that a semi-mythical figure is actually a real historical person 1 hour ago, Alegandron said: Troas Assos 500-450 BCE AR Tetartemorion 6.4mm 0,21g Griffin r Astragalos incuse Klein 475 Rare Kolchis 5th-4th C BCE BI hemidrachm 11.5mm 1.8g Archaic female head possibly Georgian goddess Dali - Bull head border SNG Cop 98 Kebren AR Obol Archaic hd Apollo Left - Hd Ram in Incuse sq 5th C BCE 7.65mm 0.64g SNG Ash 1086 Ionia Kolophon AR Tetartemorion 530-520 BCE Archaic Apollo Incuse Punch 0.15g 4.5mm- SNG Kayhan 343 Left old Persia Achaemenid Empire Darius I 510-486 BC AR 0.11g 5mm 1-32nd Siglos Persian hero-king in running incuse Klein 758 R The Kebren obol is my favorite. I can't get enough of those Archaic portraits with almond eyes & elongated heads 1 hour ago, Alegandron said: THRACO-MAKEDON TRIBES- MYGDONES or KRESTONES 480-470 BCE AR Obol 0.79g 11mm Goat Quadripartite incuse square AMNG III 14 Makedon Alexander I 498-454 BCE AR Obol 10mm 0.75g Horse - Quadripartite incuse sq SNG ANS 32 Rare ARGOLIS Argos 490-470 BC AR Triobol 14mm 2.9g Forepart of wolf lying - A 2 incuse sqs pellet crossbar within shallow sq incuse BCD Peloponnesos 1009 RARE Ionia AR Tetartemorion 4mm 0.13g 530-500 BCE Rosette - Incuse sq punch 5 pellets SNG von Aulock 1807 Ionia Klazomenai 480-400 BC AR Drachm Pentobol 3.5g 13mm Forepart winged boar r gorgoneion incuse sq Cf SNG Copenhagen 12 Rare Nice pentobol! The gorgon head is great. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapphnwn Posted June 9, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2022 Athens Ar Tetradrachm 500/490-485/480 BC, Obv Helmeted head of Athena right. Rv Owl standing right head facing Seltman Group Gi HGC 1590 17,09 grms 19 mm Photo by W. Hansen According to the most recent information available to me Athens commenced issuing the iconic "owl" coinage circa 525 BC, My coin exhibits a number of interesting features that interest me however as I have thus far been unable to examine contemporary Athenian issues the question remains moot. Perhaps the most interesting feature is that my coin looks as if the metal needed to create the coin was folded over in order to create a thicker flan. This may indicate that this coin was at one time part of somebodies dinner set. It is an interesting question, one that I need to resolve. 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted June 9, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2022 Yes, there is something so very special about the archaics! I wish I could afford beautiful great honking ones like @kapphnwn's amazing tet! However I was pretty excited to receive this archaic "hemiobol" in the mail this week (7mm, 0.30g) : The tiny unwreathed fractions from this early are generally all around 7mm but with a wide range of weights without much in the way of central tendencies... seems they were probably just used as bullion? I think this one would fit Seltman group H or L, although Jasper Burns (The Early Coins of Athens) argues that the separation of unwreathed fractions into Seltman groups is impossible, and in fact doubts that any group H fractions were minted. He would classify this coin as “AO-2”. Still, the reversed organization on the reverse, non-standard berry + leaf (or 2 berries?), and nicely styled Athena would place this among the earlier fractions. Maybe c. 500 BCE? Although if you're right, Terence, that the owls go back as far as 525 it could well be earlier... which I'd like. There are very few left-facing unwreathed fractions on acsearch, all very expensive. My winning bid: 65 EUR!! 🥳 Tail end of the archaic period, Mysia: Cyzicus (525-475 BCE) - I also like throwbacks to archaic style. This Mytilene hekte c. 454-427 BCE pairs a classical style river god with an archaic style one: 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Di Nomos Posted June 9, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 9, 2022 I really like archaic coins, and have a few I've already shown in other threads, and kapphnwn beat me to showing an archaic Athens tetradrachm (very nice by the way), but I have something I haven't shown yet. A drachm from Knidos in Caria in Asia Minor. c. 500 - 495 BC. Roaring lion on obverse and Aphrodite, wearing hair in a sakkos, within incuse square on the reverse. I think the image of Aphrodite is in very attractive, though obviously archaic style. 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted June 9, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Di Nomos said: and kapphnwn beat me to showing an archaic Athens tetradrachm Believe me, we want to see yours too!! And don't be shy about posting coins multiple times, especially beauties like yours. ☺️ What a fabulous Knidos Aphrodite! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted June 9, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 9, 2022 This is an old timer from the collection, acquired in 1992 from Harlan Berk. Athens archaic owl ,520-490 BC, ex M&M #6 1946 664. 17.52 grams And one more, from my local coin dealer. Athens archaic owl circa 480 BC. 17.5 grams 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Di Nomos Posted June 9, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Severus Alexander said: Believe me, we want to see yours too!! And don't be shy about posting coins multiple times, especially beauties like yours. ☺️ What a fabulous Knidos Aphrodite! Haha, ok Severus, you've talked me into it! Here's my archaic Athens tetradrachm. This is the coin that actually set me on the path to having a smaller collection of higher quality coins. It's rare in so much as it is well centred and struck on quite a broad flan, with virtually complete design elements on obv. & rev. Has a few dings and marks, but very attractive for the type. The photo isn't the greatest, but it's ok. 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted June 9, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) Man, those are great examples, coin-gang ... winners Here are a few of my old coins (I will update the info after I get back from date-night) Hi Mysia, Kyzikos AR Hemiobol (below) Date: 600-480 BC Diameter: 6.51 mm Weight: 0.23 grams Obverse: Tunny fish right Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square References: Other: Some deposits Ex-stevex6 … but now it’s a Doug Smith/Mentor coin Lydia AR Siglos (below)Date: 545-520 BC Diameter: 15.6 mm Weight: 4.9 grams Obverse: Confronted lion and bull. Reverse: Two incuse square punches Ex-stevex6 ISLANDS off THRACE, Thasos (below) AR Sixteenth Stater – Hemiobol Circa 500-480 BC Diameter: 8 mm Weight: 0.56 grams Obverse: Two dolphins swimming in opposite directions; pellets around Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square Reference: Le Rider, Thasiennes 9; HGC 6, 337 Other: toned, light porosity Ex-stevex6 Thasos, AR Archaic Stater. Satyr & Struggling Nymph (below)Islands off Thrace, Thasos c.525 - 463 BC Diameter: 21.5 mm Weight: 8.60 grams Obverse: Satyr carrying off a struggling nymph, who raises her arm in protest Reverse: Quadrapartite incuse square Reference: SNG Cop 1010 Other: Nice metal with good facial detail. A classic archaic Greek type! Ex-stevex6 Troas, Assos (below) AR Obol? => Hemiobol? => Tetartemorion? Date: 500-450 BC Diameter: 6.92 mm Weight: 0.23 grams Obverse: Griffin Reverse: Head of lion Reference: Other: Awesome Ex-stevex6 IONIA, Ephesos, AR Tetartemorion (below) Circa 500-420 BC Diameter: 5 x 8 mm Weight: 0.17 grams Obverse: Bee Reverse: Head of eagle right within incuse square Reference: Karwiese Series IV; SNG Kayhan 126–34 Other: 12h … toned, Exceptional for issue Ex-stevex6 Edited June 10, 2022 by Steve 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 10, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 ARGOLIS Argos 490-470 BC AR Triobol 14mm 2.9g Forepart of wolf lying - A 2 incuse sqs pellet crossbar within shallow sq incuse BCD Peloponnesos 1009 RARE 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted June 10, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 Here's one from Selinus approx 530BC. Silver. Weight: 9.05g Diameter: 21.00mm Mint: Selinus. Obv.: ivy leaf. Rev.: Eight-field quadratum incusum. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Theodosius Posted June 11, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 11, 2022 This one is at the tail end of the archaic period. I really like the style of both Apollo and Lion head. Sicily, Leontini AR Tetradrachm, 450-430 BC, 17.18g Obverse: Fine archaic style laureate head of Apollo right. Reverse: Lion head right surrounded by four barley corns, LEONTININ around. References: SNG ANS 247. Ex: ECIN, 1/11/2013, Winter FUN Show John 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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