madhatter Posted November 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 Hi All, Recently bumped on this, lets say interesting example of Fausta. What do you think about it - real or fake? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenfool Posted November 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 I say real but the stubborn encrustations have been quite clumsily cleaned (especially on the obverse) before the venture was abandoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, madhatter said: Recently bumped on this, lets say interesting example of Fausta. What do you think about it - real or fake? Needed is also the Diameter and the weight of the coin to say more... 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter Posted November 28, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 well, i do not own it. Acording to the seller its 20mm, 3,41gr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 28, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2022 ..lQQks like maybe a touch of phony desert patina on a legit coin to me...:D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 28, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2022 ..is this coin for sale from a seller who has either an A or a Z in their name?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenfool Posted November 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, ominus1 said: ..lQQks like maybe a touch of phony desert patina on a legit coin to me...:D If so, he accidentally poured the whole bottle on . 😂 Quote .is this coin for sale from a seller who has either an A or a Z in their name?.... It's AC&B on UK eBay. They are a good dealer with weekly auctions (and then long breaks). I've bought from them before and I've only saw them sell real coins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter Posted November 28, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 I did not mention who the seller is, or the source, because I do not want to point the discussion in ebay direction. I bought from the seller before, with no issues. But there is something else in the coin, which makes it questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 28, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Steppenfool said: If so, he accidentally poured the whole bottle on . 😂 It's AC&B on UK eBay. They are a good dealer with weekly auctions (and then long breaks). I've bought from them before and I've only saw them sell real coins. ..haha..well, yeah, the coin looks legit and (could) be real desert patina too...i give it a 'real' vote! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted November 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 29, 2022 The legendary Eid Mar lol UNRESEARCHED ANCIENT GREEK TETRADRACHM EID MAR COIN | eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter Posted November 29, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) My thougths on subject: For some time Im trying to find a descent example of Fausta, priced according my budget, for my one per ruler ( + wifes, sons, daughters, cousins, usurpers and other relatives) collection. Its not my top priority, but still I would like to have one. And finally,few days ago, I become very happy to see, that seller I bought from, listed that beauty. Immediately decided that it will be the goal for next week ( how cool is that feeling huh?). So I started to track how the price moves: I usually do not pre-bid, but as many, waiting untill the very last moment to hit. Next day, at work, I finaly decided - man, im gonna get that, no matter what! These were happy 10 minutes - imaginin how other members of my little Constantinian dinasty, will be together with their wife, mother, and the b**ch, because of who, Crispus got executed. But, sometimes, all good comes to an end. I remembered reading, in some forum, 2-3 years ago, about Helena and Fausta forgeries. Major discussion was about some veeery good made fakes, with Fausta obverse, and Helena (Securitas) reverses.... I checked the ofered coin one more time, and the entusiasm about gettin it disappeared in 2 seconds. All this made me do a little research - maybe they realy exist - some magical hybrid between Helena and Fausta? Fingers crossed... But no....unfortunately, after reading couple of other discusion, most of them came to conclusion, that the hybrid, is actually forgery. Such a disappointment. Couple of photos of others of the type: Well, I must admit, that Im not 100% sure its a forgery. Beside the lot of (fake?) desert patina, it is a pretty convincing piece. But the major rule I follow, when buying coins - If you doubt it - leave it. Maybe, thats the reason i do not own any Sponsians haha! Edited November 29, 2022 by madhatter 9 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenfool Posted November 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) @madhatter Well researched, those dies are way too close for comfort for me, I'd say identical. Goes to show you should trust no-one, even those you trust. Deceptive enough to fool Kunker and someone with a £250 war chest! I see it's already up to £16 which is quite rare for those AC&B auctions as they usually shoot up in the final hour. Maybe it is worth contacting the dealer? A previous thread with some good insight into how deceptive they are. I actually remember reading this thread previously but had in my head they were all SPES types. I think it was because that was my Fausta reverse target. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/fausta-and-helena-antioch-nicomedia-forgeries.318092/ Edited November 30, 2022 by Steppenfool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenfool Posted December 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 1, 2022 @madhatter The coin has been removed from sale thankfully. Did you contact the seller? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter Posted December 1, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) @Steppenfool Yes, I wrote him short message with links to this topic and the one from cointalk. Hope that it will go straight to the dealer black cabinet. Edited December 1, 2022 by madhatter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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