Gavin Richardson Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 So back on September 12 I ordered two coins from the Vcoins dealer Opisthodomos. The invoice was marked paid but it was never marked shipped. On October 8th I sent them a note asking if they had shipped the coins yet since there had been no update to the invoice status. I never heard anything. Today I went to follow up and saw that they weren't listed as a Vcoins dealer anymore. I don't have a good feeling about this. Am I missing something? Does anyone know anything about the disappearance of Opisthodomos? Is someone on a beach somewhere drinking ouzo with my 95 quid? I paid with PayPal. Does anyone know offhand if I have any recourse through PayPal or Vcoins? I haven't completely given up yet. It's only been a little over a month for a package from the UK. I'm actually less troubled by the coins not showing yet than by the lack of communication. Any information here would be helpful. Gavin 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 Have you ask the VCoins support? If you want I can ask the admins directly…?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwyler Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 Gavin, I just replied to the "basililikons" thread below about Opisthodomos. I had a problem about 2 months ago with them- heard nothing from them but my coins eventually arrived after 3 weeks (I'm in the UK). Also noticed today that they've gone from vcoins though, and that doesn't look too hopeful. I was lucky I guess... I think you'll be financially OK with PayPal, from what I've heard. My fingers are crossed for you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 I had a similar experience with a vanishing seller on another platform. I open a claim with PayPal and they gave me my money back. It took about 1 month, and you have until 180 days to ask them to intervene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Richardson Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Prieure de Sion said: Have you ask the VCoins support? If you want I can ask the admins directly…?! If you know them and it wouldn’t be too much trouble, yes, I would be grateful for any information you might find out from VCoins admins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Richardson Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: I had a similar experience with a vanishing seller on another platform. I open a claim with PayPal and they gave me my money back. It took about 1 month, and you have until 180 days to ask them to intervene. That’s helpful info. Thank you. I’m still hoping for a positive resolution and hoping it’s just bad communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor LONGINUS Posted October 19, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 19, 2022 I’m sorry to hear of an issue like this — I feel your frustration. Both VCoins and PayPal have excellent customer service response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Gavin Richardson said: If you know them and it wouldn’t be too much trouble, yes, I would be grateful for any information you might find out from VCoins admins. I will ask. When I get feedback - i tell you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 I had to get Vcoins involved to get them to ship my coins to me. I would start with the VCoins admins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Richardson Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, maridvnvm said: I had to get Vcoins involved to get them to ship my coins to me. I would start with the VCoins admins. Interesting. Now that they are no longer a VCoins dealer, I wonder if VCoins will have any leverage in the matter. 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, Gavin Richardson said: If you know them and it wouldn’t be too much trouble, yes, I would be grateful for any information you might find out from VCoins admins. Gavin … I have send you an Private Message - I get feedback and they wait for you contact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Richardson Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Thanks to Prieure de Sion's intercession, I got a quick response from VCoins admins. In a nutshell, the Opisthodomos shop is closed and I should pursue a refund via PayPal. Too bad. I really wanted the coins. G. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted October 19, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 19, 2022 That's really unfortunate, even if a refund will be some consolation. What country were they in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted October 19, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 19, 2022 FWIW, this was a response on another thread considering Opisthodomos. (not sure how to quote cross posts) Opisthodomos is run by two persons. One of them disappeard completely a few months ago and the other one does either not care about handling invoices and shipping coins or is not capable to. Not sure if the guy who did the work is back as new items have been listed, but I wouldn't bet any money that you actually will see any of the coins you buy from them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Richardson Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Donna, I think they were based in London. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted October 19, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 That's a shame. I only bought one coin from them, awhile ago, and I didn't have any issues at all. I hope @Gavin Richardson you can at least get your money back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarmur Posted October 19, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 19, 2022 I have the same problem I'm on the same boat $50 down the toilet because I can't get into contact with that store. I paid with credit card so now I gotta call to get a refund 😞 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted October 19, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 Phew, I'm glad I got my misidentified AE from them at a good price. Seems like I lucked out and hit the perfect window of opportunity. Sorry you got scammed, @Gavin Richardson! However I will pm you the name and address that I pulled from the package I received. Perhaps if you write to them directly you'll get your coins? Here's the Leo III follis (NOT Constantine V with Leo IV as listed) I got from them that I'm very happy with: 2 hours ago, LONGINUS said: I’m sorry to hear of an issue like this — I feel your frustration. Both VCoins and PayPal have excellent customer service response. I can't agree about PayPal, from the seller's end. Their customer service when I was doing AMCC was appallingly bad and unresponsive. They're still holding money of mine that I haven't been able to retrieve. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted October 19, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2022 Yes spoke with a few friends I have in London and they were quite, let's say, ambitious!....Shame really as their inventory was pretty good and sold at a decent price... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted October 20, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 20, 2022 Good thing I didn't go back for more seals . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted October 20, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 20, 2022 Too bad Gavin. Sometimes deadbeats show up, sorry it had to be with your coins. Anyway, I have not been on CT or Numisforums too much over the last couple of months, hope to get more involved again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfp7375 Posted October 21, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 21, 2022 I had a similar experience with them, got a really good deal on a RR denarius, I paid the invoice and heard nothing. Emailed a couple times and no response. 12 days later they shipped the coin, but the tracking number didn't work. More emails, still no responses. About 20 days later the package just showed up. May be similar for you but it doesn't bode well that they were removed from Vcoins so I'd just pursue a refund via Vcoins and/or Paypal. bummer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadie Posted October 21, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) I bought this bronze from Opisthodomos on September 9th and though the experience was less than ideal I still got the coin in the end. Good to see VCoins take action! Provincial coins of the Republican era. Gaius Sosius or Augustus (?). Æ, struck at an uncertain mint either Asia Minor or Syria. Head of a man right / Prow. Q below. 17 mm, 5.4g. RPC 5411 Edited October 21, 2022 by zadie 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Richardson Posted November 7, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Update: PayPal has refunded the purchase price for the coins from Opisthodomos, whose operators seem to have absconded with no little amount of cash. I am out 10 pounds shipping. Not sure why; I asked to be compensated for it in my discursive notes. But the PayPal protocol simply asks you to list the purchase price of all items; they do not ask for shipping charges. So maybe they just process those inputted costs. At any rate, I’m not happy about being out 10 pounds and going through the hassle. But it could be worse. I got almost all of my money back. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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