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Geta, Roman Empire, denarius, 200–202 AD, Rome mint. Obv: P SEPT GETA CAES PONT; bust of Geta, bare-headed, draped, r. Rev: PRINCIPI IVVENTUTIS; Geta, holding baton and sceptre, standing l. next to trophy r. 18mm, 3.40g. Ref: RIC IV Geta 18.

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CARACALLA AR Denarius. Victoria - VICT PART MAX.
Obverse: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust to right.
Reverse: VICT PART MAX. Victory advancing left, holding palm and wreath.
 A good example of this interesting coin, celebrating the roman victory over the Parthian empire during the reign of Septimius Severus.
RIC IV-1 144a. RSC 660. Rome mint, A.D. 204.  3,2 g - 18 mm.

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18,2 mm, 3 g.
Elagabalus 218-222. Ӕ limes denarius. Rome.
IMP ANTONINUS AVG, bust of Elagabalus, laureate, draped, right / LIBERTAS AVGVSTI, Libertas, draped, seated left, holding pileus in extended right hand and sceptre in left hand.
Cf RIC IV Elagabalus 115.

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Caracalla Contemporary Counterfeit Denarius, 198-217
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Imitating Rome. Silver-plated bronze, 2.74g. Laureate, draped and cuirassed right, seen from behind; ANTONINVS - PIVS AVG. Pietas standing left at altar, raising both arms; PIETAS PVBLICA. The reverse is typical of Julia Domna’s coins from 198-200. Found near Andover, Hampshire in 2019. Portable Antiquities Scheme: CAM-C08C4B.

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10 hours ago, ambr0zie said:

There is a slight problem here as the last threads followed the Uno pattern. Including mine. 

Oh, I thought you just said what you wanted next above the photo instead of below. But that was you saying what yours was 🤣

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Faustina Jr, AD 147-175.
Roman Æ as, 10.30 g, 24.1 mm, 5 h.
Rome, c. August AD 156.
Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: S C, Diana, standing facing, head left, holding arrow in right hand and bow set on ground with left hand.
Refs: Unlisted; mule of obverse of RIC 1389-91 and reverse of RIC 1405c.

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Imitation Dang from the time of Dmitry Donskoi, 1389-1390
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Grand Duchy of Muscovy. Silver, 1.43g (1.5 weight). Obverse: Copy of a Golden Horde Uzbek Khan Dang. Reverse: Copy of the reverse of Dmitry Donskoi’s Janus denga (GP 111B). Made for trade with the Golden Horde.

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Sri Lanka Ancient Indo-Roman Imitative AE

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Date: 5th century AD
Obverse: Bust right
Reverse: Cross with star at center
Size: 12.2 mm
Weight: 0.44 grams

ex. Marc Breitsprecher

 

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56 minutes ago, John Conduitt said:

Imitation Dang from the time of Dmitry Donskoi, 1389-1390
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Grand Duchy of Muscovy. Silver, 1.43g (1.5 weight). Obverse: Copy of a Golden Horde Uzbek Khan Dang. Reverse: Copy of the reverse of Dmitry Donskoi’s Janus denga (GP 111B). Made for trade with the Golden Horde.

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Is that a hybrid?? Because that's what we're on. 

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7 hours ago, Roman Collector said:

Is that a hybrid?? Because that's what we're on. 

A hybrid is coin that has a mismatched obverse and reverse.  For example, a Roman coin of one emperor and the reverse of another emperor or family member is a hybrid. A modern day comparison would be a coin with the obverse (heads) of a US Penny and the reverse (tails) of a US Dime. Most ancient Roman hybrids are unofficial, ancient counterfeits or imitatives. The term mule is often used synonymously with hybrid but mule should only be used to describe hybrids that are official mint issues.”

So an imitative coin featuring an obverse usually found on a coin from a Mongol ruler and a reverse usually found on a coin from a Muscovite prince seems to fit the definition precisely, no?

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3 hours ago, John Conduitt said:

A hybrid is coin that has a mismatched obverse and reverse.  For example, a Roman coin of one emperor and the reverse of another emperor or family member is a hybrid. A modern day comparison would be a coin with the obverse (heads) of a US Penny and the reverse (tails) of a US Dime. Most ancient Roman hybrids are unofficial, ancient counterfeits or imitatives. The term mule is often used synonymously with hybrid but mule should only be used to describe hybrids that are official mint issues.”

So an imitative coin featuring an obverse usually found on a coin from a Mongol ruler and a reverse usually found on a coin from a Muscovite prince seems to fit the definition precisely, no?

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Julia Domna, AD 193-217, wife of Septimius Severus. Barbaric Imitation AR Denarius (18mm, 3.65g, 6h). Obv: IVLIA DOM-INA AVG; Draped bust right. Rev: VE-S-TA; Vesta seated left wearing full-length cloak, holding the Palladium and spear (?). Ref: Cf. Rome mint, 193-196 AD, RIC 538; BMCRE 57; RSC 221.

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Imitation doesn't mean just barbarous. Here is a coin from Mylasa that is imitating a Rhodes coin 

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16,7 mm, 1,95 g.
Caria, Mylasa. Imitating Rhodes coinage. AR drachm. Circa 170-130 BC.
Facing head of Helios; to left, eagle standing right, superimposed on cheek / Rose with bud to right.
Ashton, Mylasa 69d; SNG Copenhagen 721; SNG Kayhan I 833-4.

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MELDES, MELDI (Meaux region, Northern Gaul)(1st century BCE, around 60-40 BCE) EPENOS,

CELTIC IMITATIONS OF MAGNA GRAECIA, AE, 16.6mm, 2.8g.

Obv: Male head facing left, “EPENOS” to left, long, curly hair.

Reverse legend: EPHNOS.

Reverse description: Horse galloping to the right, wavy tail, surmounted by a facing bird/winged rider(?) with outstretched wings, a ringlet pointed below; legend under the horse globule surmounted by a crescent.

No. in reference works: LT.7617 - DT.587 - BN.7616-7630 - RIG.163 - Sch/GB.512

Unearthed 2023 Burgundy region of France. Purchased from Normand-tik.

The bird which surmounts the horse may be a distortion of a winged rider, present for example on certain Gallic silver and bronze coins. The attribution of this coinage is confirmed to the Meldes despite a very important distribution map on the territories of the Suessions and the Bellovaques. These coins were first reported in Meaux with ROVECA epigraph coins. B. Fischer proposes a ligature between an I and the P; which would give a legend EIPENOS, EPIENOS or even EPLENOS; she opts, in view of various examples of epigraphies, for the legend EPIENOS.

History: The Meldes are only mentioned once in Caesar's work. This small people lived between the Seine and the Marne in the Brie plain with Meaux as its capital. The Meldes emancipated themselves late from the tutelage of the Suessions and the Remes at the time of the Gallic War. Having become independent in 57 BC, the Meldes chose to ally themselves with the Romans. Caesar had sixty ships built among the Meldes, in 55 BC, for the expedition to Brittany. Caesar (BG. V, 5).

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It's hard to guess if most people wouldn't like a particular coin, but I think in general most classical coin collectors find Aes Grave rather boring. I , however have always had a special affinity for these hefty pieces.

here is a RR sextans...

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next,  more Aes Grave...

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Roman Republic. Anonymous. Circa 225-217 BC. Cast Æ Grave Triens (45mm, 96.85g, 12h). Prow right, libral cast series. Rome mint. Obv: Helmeted head of Minerva left; •••• (mark of value) below. Rev: Prow of galley right; •••• (mark of value) below; all on a raised disk. Ref: Crawford 35/3a; ICC 78; Sydenham 74; RBW 87. Green patina. Very Fine. From the D.K. Collection. Ex CNG e523 (7 Sept 2022), Lot 390.

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18 mm, 2,63 g.
Marcus Aurelius, as Caesar 139-161. AR denarius. Rome. 148-149 AD.
AVRELIVS CAESAR AVG PII F, head of Marcus Aurelius, bare, right / TR POT III COS II, Minerva, helmeted, draped, standing right, holding vertical spear in right hand and resting left hand on round shield set on ground. RIC III Antoninus Pius 444; BMC 683; RSC 618.

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Volusian, AR Antoninianus, Antioch.. AD 251-253. 22 mm, 4,30 g
IMP C V AF GAL VEND VOLVSIANO AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right, three dots beneath bust / ADVENTVS AVG, Volusian on horseback, riding left, holding spear and raising right hand. RIC IV 224a; RSC 2a.

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