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This is the last "World Coin" I bought about two years ago. I don't buy many modern coins anymore but I found this coin appealing & the price was right, eventually I'll get it slabbed ☺️. The coin pictures Friedrich August III, King of Saxony, & is the last dated coin of this series that was struck for only 3 years. Friedrich led a colorful life, born in 1865 & died in 1932 at the age of 66. He entered the Royal Saxon Army in 1877 as a 2nd lieutenant, despite being only 12 years old 😮! I'm sure coming from a royal family had something to do with this 😏. He quickly rose through the ranks & became Generalfeldmarschall, on Sept. 9, 1912. He married Archduchess Louise of Austria in 1891, & they divorced in 1903 after having 7 children. She ran away pregnant with their last child 🙄 because her father-in-law threatened to have her sent to a mental asylum in Sonnenstein Castle for life 🤣. Emperor Franz Josef of Austria never recognized their divorce 🤨. An amusing incident occurred one day as Friedrich, in full uniform, was standing on a railroad platform; he was asked by a lady to move her trunk 😒. He answered "Madam, I'm not a porter, I just look like one" 🧐. He abdicated the throne on Nov. 13, 1918, after the defeat of the German Empire in WW I.

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GERMAN STATES, Kingdom of Saxony, Friedrich August III, 1904-1918. AR 5 Mark: 1914, 27.86 gm, 38 mm, 12 h. Edge stamped +GOTT+MIT+UNS. Muldenhutte Mint. KM 1266.

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Photo of Friedrich August III taken in 1914. Photo courtesy of Wikipedia.

Members of NVMIS FORVMS are welcome to post any coins of Saxony, or anything relevant to this thread ☺️.

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@Al Kowsky Nice coin and with 38mm quite big.

 

I don't have many modern coins, but happen to have one from Saxony.

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Obv: Bust facing right, ALBERT KOENIG VON SACHSEN, E

Rev:  imperial eagle, DEUTSCHES REICH 1876, * 20 MARK *

7.96g, 22.5 mm

 

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20 minutes ago, shanxi said:

@Al Kowsky Nice coin and with 38mm quite big.

 

I don't have many modern coins, but happen to have one from Saxony.

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Obv: Bust facing right, ALBERT KOENIG VON SACHSEN, E

Rev:  imperial eagle, DEUTSCHES REICH 1876, * 20 MARK *

7.96g, 22.5 mm

 

That's a nice one ☺️! He reigned until 1902, & was also known as Albrecht der Gute, (Albert the Good).

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Conventionsthaler. Frederick Christian was the Prince-Elector of Saxony for fewer than three months in 1763. He was a member of the House of Wettin. He was the third but eldest surviving son of Frederick Augustus II, Prince-Elector of Saxony and King of Poland.

Single year of issue 

Composition Silver (.833)
Weight 28.8 g
Diameter

43 mm

 

 

 

 

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Friedrich August III. was a quite interesting King and there are alot of anecdotes about him. I have the following pieces featuring him in my collection:

Kingdom of Saxony - Medal - 1891 - Wedding of Prince Friedrich August (Later King Friedrich August III.) and Luise of Austria (Called Luise of Tuscany here)

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Kingdom of Saxony - 3 Mark - 1909 - King Friedrich August III.

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2 hours ago, expat said:

Conventionsthaler. Frederick Christian was the Prince-Elector of Saxony for fewer than three months in 1763. He was a member of the House of Wettin. He was the third but eldest surviving son of Frederick Augustus II, Prince-Elector of Saxony and King of Poland.

Single year of issue 

Composition Silver (.833)
Weight 28.8 g
Diameter

43 mm

 

 

 

 

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That's a nice early thaler/marck, & I'm sure quite scarce being a 1 year type ☺️! It looks like Frederick Christian didn't miss any meals 🤣.

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2 minutes ago, Al Kowsky said:

That's a nice early thaler/marck, & I'm sure quite scarce being a 1 year type ☺️! It looks like Frederick Christian didn't miss any meals 🤣.

Sure is carrying a few extra pounds

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2 hours ago, wittwolff said:

Friedrich August III. was a quite interesting King and there are alot of anecdotes about him. I have the following pieces featuring him in my collection:

Kingdom of Saxony - Medal - 1891 - Wedding of Prince Friedrich August (Later King Friedrich August III.) and Luise of Austria (Called Luise of Tuscany here)

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Kingdom of Saxony - 3 Mark - 1909 - King Friedrich August III.

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An excellent coin & medal ☺️! I'll bet the medal was a handout for those who attended the wedding, & therefor quit scarce 😉.

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Nice 5 mark piece! My coins from Saxony are all somewhat older. I won't post the medieval ones here since this is the "world coin" section, but fortunately I also have some early modern ones:

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Electorate of Saxony, Johann Georg I, Groschen (1/24 Taler), 1624 AD, Dresden mint. Obv: IOHAN GEORG DG DUX SAX IVL CEM; oval shield with the arms of the Electorate of Saxony. Rev: SAC ROM IMP ARCHIM ET ELEC; 16-24; moneyers mark: crossed hooks; arms of Kleve, Jülich, and Berg crowned by imperial orb; in fields, H-I for moneyer Hans Jakob Koch. 23mm, 1.83g. Ref: Slg. Merseburger 1122.

 

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Electorate of Saxony, Johann Georg I, Groschen (1/24 Taler), 1638 AD, Dresden mint. Obv: IOHAN. GEORG. D:G. DUX. SAX. IVL. CL. ET MON; oval shield with the arms of the Electorate of Saxony. Rev: SA. ROM. IMP: ARCHIMAR: ET ELEC:; 16-38; arms of Kleve, Jülich, and Berg crowned by imperial orb; in fields, S-D (moneyer’s initials). 23mm, 1.99g. Ref: Clauß/Kahnt 214.

 

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Electorate of Saxony, Johann Georg IV, Doppelgroschen (1/12 Taler), 1694 AD, Dresden mint. Obv: IOH. GEORG. IV. DG. DUX. SAX. I. C. M. A. &. W; arms of the Electorate of Saxony; below, IK for moneyer Johann Koch. Rev: SAC. ROM. IMP. ARCHIM. &. ELECT; .12./EINEN/../THAL./1694; crossed arrows for moneyer Johann Koch. 25mm, 3.24g. Ref: Slg. Merseburger 1343.

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3 hours ago, Ursus said:

Nice 5 mark piece! My coins from Saxony are all somewhat older. I won't post the medieval ones here since this is the "world coin" section, but fortunately I also have some early modern ones:

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Electorate of Saxony, Johann Georg I, Groschen (1/24 Taler), 1624 AD, Dresden mint. Obv: IOHAN GEORG DG DUX SAX IVL CEM; oval shield with the arms of the Electorate of Saxony. Rev: SAC ROM IMP ARCHIM ET ELEC; 16-24; moneyers mark: crossed hooks; arms of Kleve, Jülich, and Berg crowned by imperial orb; in fields, H-I for moneyer Hans Jakob Koch. 23mm, 1.83g. Ref: Slg. Merseburger 1122.

 

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Electorate of Saxony, Johann Georg I, Groschen (1/24 Taler), 1638 AD, Dresden mint. Obv: IOHAN. GEORG. D:G. DUX. SAX. IVL. CL. ET MON; oval shield with the arms of the Electorate of Saxony. Rev: SA. ROM. IMP: ARCHIMAR: ET ELEC:; 16-38; arms of Kleve, Jülich, and Berg crowned by imperial orb; in fields, S-D (moneyer’s initials). 23mm, 1.99g. Ref: Clauß/Kahnt 214.

 

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Electorate of Saxony, Johann Georg IV, Doppelgroschen (1/12 Taler), 1694 AD, Dresden mint. Obv: IOH. GEORG. IV. DG. DUX. SAX. I. C. M. A. &. W; arms of the Electorate of Saxony; below, IK for moneyer Johann Koch. Rev: SAC. ROM. IMP. ARCHIM. &. ELECT; .12./EINEN/../THAL./1694; crossed arrows for moneyer Johann Koch. 25mm, 3.24g. Ref: Slg. Merseburger 1343.

Those are 3 handsome small change coins,  thanks for posting 😊!

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Let me see what I have photographed from Saxony...

2/3 Thaler Saxony 1767 (ex-jewelry mounted?)898447792_23ThalerSaxony1767.jpeg.dfe9f8eae38cea2977e2e6af556ccc12.jpeg

Saxony 1/24 Thaler 16241372094016_Saxony124Thaler1624.jpg.36a7111e88e9f6d54b57dac7e6bb6a59.jpg

1/24 Thaler 1763 Saxony Albertine Frederick Christian1052800721_124Thaler1763SaxonyAlbertineFrederickChristian.jpg.65f612a3df223f83c36b2169a8bc4ae9.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/48 Thaler 1807 Friedrich August I1376511104_Saxony-Albertine148Thaler1807FriedrichAugustI.jpg.ed98b6e63610124c392cbac8a39566b2.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/6 Thaler 17631741904699_Saxony-Albertine16Thaler1763.jpeg.3e0e2b469b4af93b0b74a9b95f7b7379.jpeg

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4 minutes ago, The Eidolon said:

Let me see what I have photographed from Saxony...

2/3 Thaler Saxony 1767 (ex-jewelry mounted?)898447792_23ThalerSaxony1767.jpeg.dfe9f8eae38cea2977e2e6af556ccc12.jpeg

Saxony 1/24 Thaler 16241372094016_Saxony124Thaler1624.jpg.36a7111e88e9f6d54b57dac7e6bb6a59.jpg

1/24 Thaler 1763 Saxony Albertine Frederick Christian1052800721_124Thaler1763SaxonyAlbertineFrederickChristian.jpg.65f612a3df223f83c36b2169a8bc4ae9.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/48 Thaler 1807 Friedrich August I1376511104_Saxony-Albertine148Thaler1807FriedrichAugustI.jpg.ed98b6e63610124c392cbac8a39566b2.jpg

Saxony-Albertine 1/6 Thaler 17631741904699_Saxony-Albertine16Thaler1763.jpeg.3e0e2b469b4af93b0b74a9b95f7b7379.jpeg

Nice variety, thanks for posting 😊. Many of these old German coins were used for jewelry. 

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Here are the only coins I believe I own from Saxony (including Saxe-Altenberg). If I recall correctly, I bought them at a coin show back in the 1980s. Probably from Karl Stephens, Inc.

Saxe-Altenburg, AR Broad Thaler 1624, Four Dukes (the sons of Friedrich Wilhelm I). Obv. Johann Philipp /Rev. his three brothers, Friedrich, Johann Wilhelm, & Friedrich Wilhelm II. Davenport 7371.

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Saxony (Albertine Line), AR Broad Thaler 1626, Johann Georg I, Elector of Saxony. Davenport 7601.

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Saxony Johann Georg 1626 Rev. 1.jpg
 

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9 hours ago, Al Kowsky said:

I did find photos of an early thaler I sold at Heritage 10 years ago for $375.00 😊. It's a very common type coin of the "3 brothers".1086862297_PCGSSaxonthaler15923brothers.jpg.03bd802a77227573716c04a051629c87.jpg

Nice example of the "Dreibrüdertaler"-type! Since I am from Saxony myself, I know a bit about saxon coins and its cool seeing the coins of all the other members! This example you sold isn't really common, in fact, it's the rarest of the Dreibrüdertalers, showing the three brothers in equal height on the obverse. The type was only minted in 1592, the dies were changed the same year to show the brother in the middle higher than the others (I hope this makes sense 😂). Its a great type, one of my favourites from Saxony!

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1 hour ago, Helvius Pertinax said:

Nice example of the "Dreibrüdertaler"-type! Since I am from Saxony myself, I know a bit about saxon coins and its cool seeing the coins of all the other members! This example you sold isn't really common, in fact, it's the rarest of the Dreibrüdertalers, showing the three brothers in equal height on the obverse. The type was only minted in 1592, the dies were changed the same year to show the brother in the middle higher than the others (I hope this makes sense 😂). Its a great type, one of my favourites from Saxony!

H.P. Thanks for the info, it's good to hear from a specialist ☺️! I've seen at least a 1/2 dozen "3 brother" thalers & never took notice of their heights 🤔. At one time I had a good collection of thalers, mostly Austrian, but gradually liquidated them for other interests.

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6 hours ago, DonnaML said:

Here are the only coins I believe I own from Saxony (including Saxe-Altenberg). If I recall correctly, I bought them at a coin show back in the 1980s. Probably from Karl Stephens, Inc.

Saxe-Altenburg, AR Broad Thaler 1624, Four Dukes (the sons of Friedrich Wilhelm I). Obv. Johann Philipp /Rev. his three brothers, Friedrich, Johann Wilhelm, & Friedrich Wilhelm II. Davenport 7371.

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Saxe-Altenburg 1624 4 Dukes Rev. 1.jpg

Saxony (Albertine Line), AR Broad Thaler 1626, Johann Georg I, Elector of Saxony. Davenport 7601.

Saxony 1626 Johann Georg Obv. 1.jpg

Saxony Johann Georg 1626 Rev. 1.jpg
 

Donna, Two lovely thalers ☺️! The "family" thalers are always interesting & eye-catching 😍.

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1 hour ago, Al Kowsky said:

H.P. Thanks for the info, it's good to hear from a specialist ☺️! I've seen at least a 1/2 dozen "3 brother" thalers & never took notice of their heights 🤔. At one time I had a good collection of thalers, mostly Austrian, but gradually liquidated them for other interests.

Thank you, I am always happy to share the small bit of knowledge I have 😁 

And since today i got my grade papers and was released into summer break, I thought I'd buy myself a coin in celebration. It happens to fit right in, so ill share it here 😅

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A coin minted in Saxony by a Saxonian monarch, bought by a native Saxonian and currently housed in Saxony!

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1 hour ago, Helvius Pertinax said:

Thank you, I am always happy to share the small bit of knowledge I have 😁 

And since today i got my grade papers and was released into summer break, I thought I'd buy myself a coin in celebration. It happens to fit right in, so ill share it here 😅

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A coin minted in Saxony by a Saxonian monarch, bought by a native Saxonian and currently housed in Saxony!

H.P. Great score, & we all need to be good to ourselves 😊. Enjoy the summer break 😉.

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