Justinian II Second Reign Follis - Sear 1427

[ela126]

Very recent auction win from biddr (15 minutes ago). Some of you may be familiar with Sol Numismatik. I began my smaller Nummi denomination collection from their offerings last year. 
 

Trying to branch out, I decided to go after this piece among others, as I don’t have many pieces from the early 8th century. I’m a journeyman coin cleaner so not terribly bothered by the dirt, which I’ll evaluate and likely clean. Much of his offerings seem to come from the Antioch region with similar dirt coverings.

From a rarity perspective, is this coin something special as is mentioned? I do trust Vasja’s classifications but wanted a thought or two since there seems to be some major expertise here. I see Berk has one listed for 950 but we know those are usually inflated BIN prices. Otherwise it’s not found much from my brief searches

I paid roughy $145 all in, happy to share that.

thanks

[Ryro]

Awesome! His second reign is after they cut off his nose when he was depose. so he had a false gold nose made that he wore! Coingrats 

[Severus Alexander]

I saw that one!  Glad I didn't bid you up on it.  I decided I didn't need a full follis to add to my half that I picked up earlier this year:

These second reign coins are tough to find at a reasonable cost, it's quite right to call them rare (whether featuring Justinian alone or with his son Tiberius).  I'm not sure if Sol is also talking about the rarity of the officina mark... only a super specialist would care much about that I think.  That said, the officina mark does offer something of special interest: the retrograde R before the gamma, which is very clear on your example.  I wonder what the explanation for this is!

[ela126]

3 hours ago, Severus Alexander said:

I saw that one!  Glad I didn't bid you up on it.  I decided I didn't need a full follis to add to my half that I picked up earlier this year:

These second reign coins are tough to find at a reasonable cost, it's quite right to call them rare (whether featuring Justinian alone or with his son Tiberius).  I'm not sure if Sol is also talking about the rarity of the officina mark... only a super specialist would care much about that I think.  That said, the officina mark does offer something of special interest: the retrograde R before the gamma, which is very clear on your example.  I wonder what the explanation for this is!

i appreciate you not getting into a bidding war with me.. Altho i doubt i would have gone much further.

Upon further light research, the only other SB 1427 i can find in Acsearch or really anywhere recently is the Berk example, which seems to not have sold in their 2020 buy or bid sale for $900, and is up on Ma-shops for $950 or so. seems to be an a close match with the retrograde R and a gamma officina. Wildwinds, Labarum, nor EBCC seem to have examples, so quite rare.

There are 2 other sear 1427 listed in DOC though. 11b and 11c, these actually do carry the retrograde R as well, with officinas A and B, both from the same Swiss collection (1956). R is said to be "entirely enigmatic".. so we may never know... i will continue the search.

 

Wonderful example you have. I very much appreciate the cleaned look of yours and the details on the obverse are all quite clear, which can be a rarity for coins of this era.

Edited September 24, 2023 by ela126

[seth77]

I also had this on watch but completely forgot that Sol was due roughly at the same time with Savoca so I missed all of it. 

[Severus Alexander]

This Naumann coin appears to be a 1427, officina gamma:

Leu sold a lovely 1426 last year:

In retrospect I wish I had bid on that coin!

 

[ela126]

Oh those are quite attractive. Thank you for the research

[Nerosmyfavorite68]

The 1427 is a neat acquisition!  Here's the only second reign coin I have, one which barely survived the post office's tender mercies.

 

Justinian II - 685-695, 705-7011 - AE Follis - 2.84g Sear 1445 Ravenna Year 21

[voulgaroktonou]

Here's my Sear 1426 of Justinian II. Notes are at home, so I lack here weight etc. When I got it on ebay years ago, it was so incrusted as to be unidentifiable. A very patient friend brought it to its present condition for me. (Thank you, Dave!)

[ela126]

1 hour ago, voulgaroktonou said:

Here's my Sear 1426 of Justinian II. Notes are at home, so I lack here weight etc. When I got it on ebay years ago, it was so incrusted as to be unidentifiable. A very patient friend brought it to its present condition for me. (Thank you, Dave!)

wonderful work! thank you for sharing.

[robinjojo]

Nice coins!  

This is my only example.

Justinian II, follis, 2nd reign, Syracuse, IY 5 (AD 706-7).

Cf. BCI 665 variety (no stars); Sear 1299 (1st reign).

4.18 grams

This coin is an apparent overstrike or a die shift strike. A second figure from the under-coin or die shift can be seen at around 2 o'clock on the obverse.

Edited September 25, 2023 by robinjojo

[ela126]

Bit rough with my cleaning but this is the end result. I’m happy with it.

weight is 5.95g

Edited September 30, 2023 by ela126