galba68 Posted September 17, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 17, 2023 *FUROR TEUTONICUS*, by Serbian painter Paja Jovanovich...The monumental oil painting, 24 square meters, made in 1899, describes the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest..It went missing after being in the Chilean National Museum of Fine Arts, though this sketch has survived... 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted September 17, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 That's a really stirring piece of art! Gives one a slight sense of what it must have been like. Terrifying. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 kool G68...i wonder where it is presently....:) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, ominus1 said: kool G68...i wonder where it is presently....:) https://maps.app.goo.gl/cGbNZunFZNrhd1Zj7 Q Edited September 18, 2023 by Qcumbor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 And the Wikipedia page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest Q 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Qcumbor said: https://maps.app.goo.gl/cGbNZunFZNrhd1Zj7 Q ..thanks Q...but i meant the painting that's missing 9_9...:P ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, ominus1 said: ..thanks Q...but i meant the painting that's missing 9_9...:P ^^ Oh, I see, sorry for my misunserstanding 😞 Q 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted September 18, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 18, 2023 19 hours ago, galba68 said: 24 square meters, How does something that big get lost/stolen?! Maybe 4x6m = 12x18 feet in size! It seems it'd be hard to sell something so large and unique - maybe stolen to order perhaps, and now adorning some millionaire's mansion ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Qcumbor said: Oh, I see, sorry for my misunserstanding 😞 Q Well, in theory it could be in that Forrest. We cant rule anything out 😉 P.S. I love these kinds of misunderstandings. I make them with my wife all the time. If I could have a ancient coin for every 'sigh' she makes, I would have collected them all by now 😁 Edited September 18, 2023 by Limes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Limes said: Well, in theory it could be in that Forrest. We cant rule anything out 😉 P.S. I love these kinds of misunderstandings. I make them with my wife all the time. If I could have a ancient coin for every 'sigh' she makes, I would have collected them all by now 😁 ..seems to my memory, which dims with age, that one of the South Am. countries had a big fire some time back..i ain't sure if it was Chile...@Heliodramus Edited September 18, 2023 by ominus1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted September 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 ..it might take Sherlock Holmes on this one This is a list of museums in Chile. This list is incomplete; you can help by adding missing items. (September 2011) List[edit] Chilean National Museum of Fine Arts Museum of Memory and Human Rights Centro Cultural Palacio de La Moneda Archaeological Museum of La Serena Anthropological Museum R. P. Sebastián Englert Museo Nacional Aeronáutico y del Espacio Palacio Cousiño Museo Arqueológico de Santiago Museo Campesino de Colima Museo de Santiago Museo Catedral Metropolitana Museo Colonial San Francisco Museo Chileno de Arte Precolombino, Santiago Chilean National History Museum Museo de Arte Contemporáneo Valdivia Museo de Arte Contemporáneo (Santiago, Chile) Museo Artequin Museo Artequín Museo de Ciencia y Tecnología Museo Ferroviario Museo de la Solidaridad "Salvador Allende" Museo Interactivo Mirador Museo Mapuche Chilean National Museum of Natural History Museo Nao Victoria Museo Regional de la Araucanía La Chascona, Pablo Neruda's house, now a museum Museo La Sebastiana (Casa Pablo Neruda) Casa de Isla Negra, Isla Negra Museo Fuerte Niebla Museo de la Exploración Rudolph Amandus Philippi Museo Histórico y Antropológico Maurice van de Maele Museo de Arte Precolombino Open Air Museum Viña del Mar R. P. Gustavo Le Paige Archaeological Museum Martin Gusinde Anthropological Museum Palacio Baburizza re out which museum has it...here's a 'incomplete' list of some in Chile... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galba68 Posted September 18, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, Heliodromus said: How does something that big get lost/stolen?! Maybe 4x6m = 12x18 feet in size! It seems it'd be hard to sell something so large and unique - maybe stolen to order perhaps, and now adorning some millionaire's mansion ? The painter Paja Jovanovic was known for some truly monumental paintings..Just look at this oil painting * The Proclamation of Tzar Dusans Law Codex* and its size... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted September 19, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2023 5 hours ago, ominus1 said: hat one of the South Am. countries Nat Museum of Brazil about 5 years ago 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapphnwn Posted September 19, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2023 Back in 2017 I visited the site of the battle now believed to have been fought at Kalkriese. The day I arrived was a day with leaden skies but with no rain. One of the coins found on the site Aureus of Augustus Some of the artifacts found and where they would have been originally The Roman Parade mask The ground leading up to the German positions Reconstruction of the German field works 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted September 19, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 12:47 AM, galba68 said: *FUROR TEUTONICUS*, by Serbian painter Paja Jovanovich...The monumental oil painting, 24 square meters, made in 1899, describes the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest..It went missing after being in the Chilean National Museum of Fine Arts, though this sketch has survived... These historical depictions of ancient battles are really interesting, because they show how our understanding of the past has improved. For example, the Germanic warriors would not have worn furs, but tailored wool, linen and leather clothing and leather shoes. Many of the Germanic warriors were Roman auxiliaries, who would have been hardly distinguishable from the legionaries. The fallen Germanic warrior is wearing an arm ring, which is out of place by about 1000 years. The winged helmet seen in the center is complete fantasy. However, two Germanic warriors are wearing what looks like wolfskins over their head and shoulders. They could be regarded as an unintended reference to Ulfhednar warriors, meaning wolfskin warriors, a type of elite warrior similar to the Berserkers (= bearskin warriors). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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