Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted August 27, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just received my latest Ebay purchase, took only 8 days from Spain to Montreal by Correos Spain Post. It’s a local imitation of Victorinus with a reverse of Claudius II from Milan. I bought it because I think it could be a DOUBLE-DIE MATCH with another coin in my collection. It doesn’t happen often that you can find two twins specimens of barbaric imitations. But my old eyes could be wrong… So what do YOU think, am I dreaming or what ??? I beg you help me !And please show me your examples of DOUBLE- DIE matching coins. 17 x 19mm 3.09g (full silvering) 19mm 2.31g 11 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry G Posted August 27, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 27, 2023 Neat piece. I would say it is a double die match; the obverse certainly is (looking particularly at the strange N and Victorinus' eyelid), and the reverse probably is too, looking at the slightly joined ends of the C and the angled top of the T 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted August 27, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 27, 2023 I agree - seems to be a double die link. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted August 28, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 Absolutely correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted August 28, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted August 28, 2023 It can’t be easy to find on Gallic Empire coins. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted August 29, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Great find! I think I also have a double die-match of a Victorinus in my collection: Edited August 29, 2023 by Tejas 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted August 29, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tejas said: I think I also have a double die-match of a Victorinus in my collection: I confirm: serial number 145678 and 145679….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted August 29, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Below is what seems to be a threefold double die-match from my collection: These three coins and the two above (+ some others in the same uncirculated condition) come reportedly from a hoard. The coins were sold to me by a French gentleman some 10 or 15 years ago, who was dissolving his collection. As I said, all the coins are in near perfect condition (the coin in the middle has its full silvering) and there are these unusual die-matches, which perhaps suggests that these coins were buried by the mint before ever seeing any circulation. Edited August 29, 2023 by Tejas 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa Posted August 29, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 9:09 PM, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: So what do YOU think, am I dreaming or what ??? I beg you help me ! Not dreaming; it is real 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Posted August 29, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2023 Nice coins. There are no coins of the period in my collection. Even though I do not specifically collect die-matches, I have a few from getting samples in a better state. Below is a threefold double die-match, which could be all three known coins of this variety: DN ANASTAS-IVS RERP AVC (491-492). The first one was part of a lot of two coins. A variety not known previously, so it was natural to buy whatever the state was. Solidus Numismatik. Auction 32. 28/07/2018 Last year this coin appeared. A bit better state - a good reason to get it. Kölner Münzkabinett Tyll Kroha Nachfolger. Auction 117. 28/10/2022 This year, the third appeared still better… Still not ideal… Roma Numismatics Limited. E-Sale 107. 16/03/2023 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryfrog02 Posted August 29, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2023 Definitely a match on the obverse. I'm a little shaky on the reverse but that is probably more due to the orientation of the top coin. I'm going to err on the side of caution and assume it is. If anyone were to know for sure, it'd be you 🙂 Great pick up! You are getting a flock of Victorinus Victories! 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa Posted August 31, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 31, 2023 Double die match of Postumus local imitation 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted August 31, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) @Agrippa: wow, I can't remember to have seen a die match of local imitations ! Here a two double die matches from my Hierocaesareia collection. For rare provincial coins double die matches are not so rare, but I have only these two examples in my collection. Vespasian Bronze Obv.: OYECΠACIANOC KAICAP CEBA, laureate head of Vespasian right Rev: IEPOKAICAPEΩN, stag standing right. Æ, 18mm, 5.15g (upper coin, Ex Gorny&Mosch A271, 531) Æ, 20mm, 3.85g (second coin) Ref.: RPC II, 955, upper coin RPC 955-9 (this coin) double die match of: Lydia, Hierocaesaraea Lucilla (Augusta, 164-182) Bronze, AE 19 Obv: ΛΟVΚΙΛΛΑ СЄΒΑС, Draped bust right. Rev: ΙЄΡΟΚΑΙСΑΡЄΩΝ, Artemis standing right, holding bow and drawing arrow from quiver on back. Æ, 19.2mm, 5.34g RPC IV online 1588-6 (this coin) Æ, 19.3mm, 5.33g RPC IV online 1588-9 (this coin) Edited August 31, 2023 by shanxi 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa Posted August 31, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 31, 2023 @shanxi, great examples of double die matches; thanks for sharing. With regards to double die matches of local imitations please check also the examples Dominic started this topic with 😀; they are also great. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted August 31, 2023 · Member Share Posted August 31, 2023 I've only got one double die link in my collection, but a few others to museum/published coins (always a good confirmation of rarity). These are an unlisted mint-type for Constantine, issued by Maximinus II during his very brief (10 day?) control of the Heraclea mint in 313, which he had seized when Licinius had been away at Milan with Constantine. Coins from this issue are all scarce, and die links are very common. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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