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TIMUR (or Tamerlane) is it???


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This silver coin was represented to me as Timur (or Tamerlane) from 1370.

I have no knowledge in this area at all, so my question is, "was it correctly represented or not?"

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18 minutes ago, Bailathacl said:

Always a challenge when dabbling inIslamic Dynasties coins!!  Wish I could help.  
 

You might find something similar if you slog through the various Tamerlane coins on Zeno.ru however. 

@Bailathacl  I have done as you suggested and as a result I believe that this coin is not from the time of Tamerlane but from the time of his son Shah Rukh I.

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3 minutes ago, John Conduitt said:

I think your images are upside down.

@John Conduitt  You may well be right. I have tried checking with some reference material but I received little help there as their photographs are 'all over the shop'. It would undoubtedly help if I could read Islamic characters.

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5 minutes ago, Topcat7 said:

@John Conduitt  You may well be right. I have tried checking with some reference material but I received little help there as their photographs are 'all over the shop'. It would undoubtedly help if I could read Islamic characters.

The text on these is probably very similar from ruler to ruler. The first image has the mint on it, I think, as it says ‘struck in’ at the top. So the ruler is likely on the other side, although it might not be as it looks like the kalima.

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Timurids, yes, but not Timur himself. Rather it's his son Shahrukh, 1405-1447, AR tanka, Yazd mint, dated AH 830(?). Album 2405.

The first image, if rotated 180°, reads: "struck at Yazd / the sultan the very great / Shahrukh Bahadur may Allah preserve / his kingdom and his sultanate / year [8]3x.

The date is very weak. Only the 3 is visible but 830 is likely.

The reverse is the Sunni Kalima within the central square; the names of the four Rashidun caliphs in the surrounding petals.

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@DLTcoins  I have posted an image of the first coin rotated 180 degrees (thank you). Your comments are much appreciated. I think I should stay clear of here. I read some posts about Tamerlane, recently, and he wasn't a nice fellow (by all reports), so I thought I would get one of his. Maybe not.

The seller will refund.

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I managed to get a coin that covers both Timur (Tamerlane) and his son Shah Rukh... the undertype is a Timur tanka dated AH 800 (Shiraz mint, A2386), and the countermark is Shah Rukh:

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Timur himself, of course, wasn't really a 2-birds-with-one-stone kinda guy. More like 100,000 birds with a million arrows...

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