John060167 Posted April 30, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 30, 2023 Anyone likes denarii of Caligula? I do! I really like collecting coins of infamous people as much as I do respectable, famous people…perhaps even more lol. Here is an upgrade to my current Caligula denarius, a nice example with the portrait of Agrippina the elder on the reverse. According to RIC, there is “practically no doubt” these issues were struck in Rome, although more modern authors contest this and say they were struck in Lugdunum. For RIC, the main difference between silver/gold issues struck in Lugdunum and Rome is that Lugdunum issues were struck only in 37-38 and show a bare head of Caligula, and later issues struck in Rome depict him with a wreath. So who knows where these were really struck! Caligula’s precious metal coins are rare as he didnt reign too long for a julio claudian & his issues were melted down in mass after his death, by Nero during his reforms & possibly as a part of his damnatio memoriae(?) So they demand a heavy premium, along with Claudius. 😞 Anyway happy to have this one! Have any coins of lil’ boots? Please share! Cheers 24 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted April 30, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2023 I've only one Caligula denarius and it's a holed fourrée. Coin: Silver (fourrée) Denarius C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT COS - Bare head of Caligula right - Radate head of Augustus right, between two six-pointed stars Mint: Lugdunum (37 AD) Wt./Size/Axis: 3.62g / 18mm / 6h References: RIC 2 BMC 4 Cohen 11 Giard/L2. 157 /13a Acquisition: CGB Online 23-Mar-2012 ATB, Aidan. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John060167 Posted April 30, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, akeady said: I've only one Caligula denarius and it's a holed fourrée. Coin: Silver (fourrée) Denarius C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT COS - Bare head of Caligula right - Radate head of Augustus right, between two six-pointed stars Mint: Lugdunum (37 AD) Wt./Size/Axis: 3.62g / 18mm / 6h References: RIC 2 BMC 4 Cohen 11 Giard/L2. 157 /13a Acquisition: CGB Online 23-Mar-2012 ATB, Aidan. Thats neat, thanks for sharing! It has a great style & the surfaces have no breakage in the plating, & weight is on point for a silver issue! Is it really a fourree? Wonder if the “base metal” exposure is actually just deposit/dirt. Cheers Edited April 30, 2023 by John060167 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Collector Posted April 30, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, John060167 said: Thats neat, thanks for sharing! It has a great style & the surfaces have no breakage in the plating, & weight is on point for a silver issue! Is it really a fourree? Wonder if the “base metal” exposure is actually just deposit/dirt. Cheers I was going to say the same thing. The gash on the obverse even looks like oxidized silver. Maybe you got lucky and got the real deal!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted April 30, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2023 That's a great denarius of Caligula. How did your previous one look like, since this is the upgrade? Unfortunately, a denarius of Caligula indeed demands a big bag of money these days. Well, maybe not just these days. Anyway, I was lucky to score this budget example for a modest price. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted April 30, 2023 · Patron Share Posted April 30, 2023 Wow, @John060167! That's quite an acquisition for your collection! I only have provincial issues of Little Boots. This one is my favorite. Caligula, AD 37-41. Roman provincial Æ 20 mm, 6.74 g. Peloponnese, Corinthia, Corinth, Ae. P. Vipsanius Agrippa and M. Bellius Proculus, duoviri, AD 37-38. Obv: C CAESAR AVGVSTV, bare head right. Rev: M BELLIO PROCVLO IIVIR / COR, Pegasus flying right. Refs: RPC I 1173; Amandry (1988) XVII; BCD Corinth 405-6. This one, though, never fails to make me laugh at its naive artistic style. Caligula AD 37-41. Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm. Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38. Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, r. Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus r., SAL AVG across field. Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted April 30, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 hours ago, The_Collector said: I was going to say the same thing. The gash on the obverse even looks like oxidized silver. Maybe you got lucky and got the real deal!! @John060167 also Thanks - it was sold as fourree by CGB but maybe they were too hasty in condemning it. I'll dig it up and maybe to measure its relative density. ATB, Aidan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John060167 Posted April 30, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 38 minutes ago, akeady said: @John060167 also Thanks - it was sold as fourree by CGB but maybe they were too hasty in condemning it. I'll dig it up and maybe to measure its relative density. ATB, Aidan. Yeah, typically fourrees aren’t that heavy and despite wear/cuts, no breaks so…i believe it’s probably official! good luck and let us know what you find 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John060167 Posted April 30, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Limes said: That's a great denarius of Caligula. How did your previous one look like, since this is the upgrade? Unfortunately, a denarius of Caligula indeed demands a big bag of money these days. Well, maybe not just these days. Anyway, I was lucky to score this budget example for a modest price. I love wreathed reverses, they are among my favorite designs, for their simplicity and beauty….I always seek ones like that out. Amazing coin! Here is the example i upgraded from, still attractive but yeah…this example has Germanicus on the reverse, so it goes along with RIC 14, and has looking portraits despite its issues. Cheers! 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John060167 Posted April 30, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Roman Collector said: Wow, @John060167! That's quite an acquisition for your collection! I only have provincial issues of Little Boots. This one is my favorite. Caligula, AD 37-41. Roman provincial Æ 20 mm, 6.74 g. Peloponnese, Corinthia, Corinth, Ae. P. Vipsanius Agrippa and M. Bellius Proculus, duoviri, AD 37-38. Obv: C CAESAR AVGVSTV, bare head right. Rev: M BELLIO PROCVLO IIVIR / COR, Pegasus flying right. Refs: RPC I 1173; Amandry (1988) XVII; BCD Corinth 405-6. This one, though, never fails to make me laugh at its naive artistic style. Caligula AD 37-41. Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm. Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38. Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, r. Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus r., SAL AVG across field. Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503. Cool coins, especially like the pegasus on the reverse, coins from corinth are awesome! Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeady Posted April 30, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, John060167 said: Yeah, typically fourrees aren’t that heavy and despite wear/cuts, no breaks so…i believe it’s probably official! good luck and let us know what you find http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/41532.php I noted it was heavy in 2012, but no more - will look again. Thanks for the input! Aidan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted May 1, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2023 A selection of denarii of Caligula... Two with his mother Agrippina, one with his father, Germanicus , and one with his great grand father Augustus... 9 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted May 1, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2023 This one has yet to arrive. Roman Provincial CAPPADOCIA. Caesarea. Caligula (37-41 AD) AR Drachm (17.5mm 3.53g) Obv: C CAESAR AVG GERMANICVS - bare head right Rev: IMPERATOR PONT MAX AVG TR POT - simpulum and lituus. RIC 63; RPC 3624. Olympus Auctions 2nd April 2023. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John060167 Posted May 1, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Octavius said: A selection of denarii of Caligula... Two with his mother Agrippina, one with his father, Germanicus , and one with his great grand father Augustus... That’s one awesome collection you have there! Is Caligula one of your favorites? Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted May 1, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted May 1, 2023 9 hours ago, John060167 said: That’s one awesome collection you have there! Is Caligula one of your favorites? Cheers Yes - Caligula and Nero are my favorites (from empire). I've been looking out for them since 1967. Also, love aes grave. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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