galba68 Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 Septimius Severus limes denarius, 2.15 gr.. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 On a related note, I picked up this rather random (for me) Elagabalus AE last year, that I suppose is also a limes denarius. What caught my attention was the small size. This one is 17.5x16mm, 2.3g (haven't verified the weight). I'm not at all familiar with limes denarii - the small size and good bust style made me wonder if it could even be a quadrans (obviously unlikely). How much is known about who cut the dies and struck limes denarii? Is there any principled way one would distinguish a limes denarius from a quadrams? I see coin below (not mine - ex. Leu Web # 16) has been attributed as a quadrans, and it a bit larger in size at 18mm 2.39g. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted December 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2022 @galba68...Another neat find! Looks to have very nice detail remaining... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
septim Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Heliodromus said: Is there any principled way one would distinguish a limes denarius from a quadrams? I see coin below (not mine - ex. Leu Web # 16) has been attributed as a quadrans, and it a bit larger in size at 18mm 2.39g. A quadrans should have S C somewhere (at least most have); a denarius never does. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted December 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2022 its black...you might do a small test cut on it to make sure it not silver 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLTcoins Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) The so-called "limes" denarii were typically cast in molds made from genuine coins. The process of mold-making results in shrinkage. Edited December 31, 2022 by DLTcoins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted December 31, 2022 · Patron Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DLTcoins said: The process of mold-making results in shrinkage. Edited December 31, 2022 by Roman Collector 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted December 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2022 Interesting coin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughie Dwyer Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 Nice coin! (However, what are 'limes denarii'?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted January 1, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 1, 2023 Limes denarii were phoney coins or emergency coinage, depending on the theory. Probably emergency coinage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted January 1, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) The term "Limes Denarii" is a misnomer. Limes implies that the castings were made on the edges of the Empire as emergency money. However, the finding locations of the cast denarii and the casting forms are distributed over the entire territory of the Empire, even rather than on the edges. Also these cast denarii were made of white metal to deceive people. For coins of necessity there would have been no need to deceive. These white metal cast denarii were in almost all cases nothing but forgeries. The situation is different with cast sestertii. These are real coins of necessity, produced in remote regions as emergency money. No one was deceived or cheated by them. Edited January 1, 2023 by shanxi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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