ambr0zie Posted December 11, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 11, 2022 As I mentioned in the past, completing a 12 Caesars set is not one of my main targets, but this doesn't mean I refuse adding denarii of the 12 Caesars whenever possible. One of the missing ones was added today, I was stalking it since it was published. I knew it will not be cheap, despite its flaws, but I strongly think it is one of my my best Imperial additions in 2022. Nero AD 54-68. Rome. Denarius AR. 20 mm, 2,65 g Struck circa AD 64-65. NERO CAESAR AVGVSTVS, laureate head right / [AVGVSTV]S AVGVSTA, Nero, radiate and togate, standing left, holding patera in right hand and long scepter in right; to right, empress, veiled and draped, standing left, holding patera in right hand and cornucopia in left. RIC I 45; WCN 55; RSC 43; BMCRE 54-5; BN 201. There were some reasons I wanted this coin. First - the obverse portrait is very decent, good centering, fully readable legend. The reverse, although it is bad (in the first second I saw it, I thought there are 3 characters on the reverse) has a main advantage for me. It is rarer than the average Nero denarius. Perhaps it's just me, but when I see a type of coin too often (even if it's not cheap) I don't want it. Perhaps it's just a false impression, but I saw too many Nero denarii with IVPPITER CVSTOS or Salus. I have a similar feeling about Vitellius coins with altar and dolphin and - especially - Augustus denarii with Gaius and Lucius. And of course I liked the reverse scene, with the empress included. But this is the tricky part with this coin. When I attributed it I found various descriptions about the empress on the reverse. Some sellers describe it as Poppaea. Others as Statilia Messalina, Nero's third wife. Some describe it as Livia (?!). Most of them just leave it as "empress" and the attribution "RIC 45 or 57" This confusion has a core reason ... the ambiguity (as I see it) in RIC, where the empress is not even named... and the coin has 2 entries. ... and This complicates things as if the coin was struck in 64-65 Poppaea could have been alive. But if the coin is struck in 65 after her death or 66, the Augusta is Statilia Messalina. Is there a Nero specialist here who can distinguish RIC 45 and RIC 57? The footnote sheds some light ... but not enough A difference in style for the obverse perhaps? The description is identical also in OCRE and what makes me more confused is that both RIC types have the reference BMC 52 (similar situation with the aureii) Of course, please post Nero coins (preferably denarii but I will not protest about imperial bronzes or provincials) 25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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