Cordoba Posted October 15, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) the things i'd do to own this coin LOL. i wonder how much it'll hammer for https://www.biddr.com/auctions/ngsa/browse?a=2978&l=3355836 Edited October 15, 2022 by Cordoba 12 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Di Nomos Posted October 15, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) I could sell my house, car, coin collection, wife and kids.....and still wouldn't be anywhere near it. Actually, I might get paid to keep the wife and kids. Spectacular coin, though the following lot in this sale is anothet dekadrachm, which I actually like more. https://media.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/ngsa/016/image00014.jpg?1665682115 Edited October 15, 2022 by Di Nomos 9 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted October 15, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Di Nomos said: I could sell my house, car, coin collection, wife and kids.....and still wouldn't be anywhere near it. Actually, I might get paid to keep the wife and kids. Spectacular coin, though the following lot in this sale is anothet dekadrachm, which I actually like more. https://media.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/ngsa/016/image00014.jpg?1665682115 The portrait side of this treasure is breathtaking 😮! The signature KIMON on the dolphin is the clearest I have ever seen on a coin of this type ☺️. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted October 15, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 15, 2022 Anybody interested in a kidney? Not in perfect shape (periodically produces stones) but genuine and overall functional. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted October 15, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Incredible coins, thank you for posting! and at least the 20th claim by the seller this year of the "finest known". 😀 The αθλα section in the exergue is far from the best, though I'll still accept it as a gift, albeit with some reluctance! Edited October 15, 2022 by Deinomenid 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientJoe Posted October 15, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Both are undeniably great coins. I personally prefer the art of one particular unsigned die to most signed examples but the Jongkees 1 is a masterpiece. Here's my Kimon for comparison; a grade lower than the NGSA coins but I'm happy with it for the strike/centering/style: Edited October 15, 2022 by AncientJoe 20 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted October 16, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) The remarkably beautiful OP coin is greatly enhanced by the crisp dies, lack of die rust, excellent metal quality and high grade. All these bells and whistles, along with the panache that comes with these Syracuse decadrachms, and by association the tetradrachms, will assure, I am certain, of a very healthy hammer price for the coin, in excess of $100,000 at the least. On 10/15/2022 at 11:15 AM, AncientJoe said: Both are undeniably great coins. I personally prefer the art of one particular unsigned die to most signed examples but the Jongkees 1 is a masterpiece. Here's my Kimon for comparison; a grade lower than the NGSA coins but I'm happy with it for the strike/centering/style: That is a an absolutely beautiful decadrachm! The toning and strike are exceptional. Edited October 18, 2022 by robinjojo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvius Pertinax Posted October 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 These coins are so incredibly, incredibly cool! I had the pleasure of seeing one at the Dresden Royal (Saxonian) Cabinet this summer. The relief is crazy, especially the eyes were very deep and the hair stood out at least 1mm or two! My pictures are terrible, unfortunately, but this is one of the coins one just has to see in person! 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celator Posted October 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Helvius Pertinax said: These coins are so incredibly, incredibly cool! I had the pleasure of seeing one at the Dresden Royal (Saxonian) Cabinet this summer. The relief is crazy, especially the eyes were very deep and the hair stood out at least 1mm or two! My pictures are terrible, unfortunately, but this is one of the coins one just has to see in person! At the ANA summer seminar they took out theirs and passed it around the class and we each spent as much time as we wanted handling it. A nice perk in addition the excellent instructors in the class. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted October 20, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/17/2022 at 12:06 AM, robinjojo said: I am certain, of a very healthy hammer price for the coin, in excess of $100,000 at the least. Starting price is 600k! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted November 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just sold 750k CHF plus comm and the one immediately after 700k. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limes Posted November 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2022 Funny thing is though, those prices are so extraordinary (for me at least...) that I dont know if those prices realised are 'doofus' (dit I type this right?) prices, normal market prices, or bargains...! Berk in their latest podacst commented on the estimates in the NAC sales, saying the previous buyer sold them at insane prices, hence the estimates are absurd as well. I dont know if these decadrachms were from the sjeik too, but the estimates turned out okay, a bit on the low side even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted November 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2022 What's extraordinary to me is the very next lot - pictured here - sold for one sixteenth or just ~6% of the prior lots. I can't fathom that the difference is so vast. I understand that some want and can afford only the very best, price almost no object, but to see them next to each other and have such a price ratio between them is beyond me. To me that's doofus-like, although I thought that term offended some viewers and they were changing the term! It was hardly an awful coin either, especially the Arethusa side - described as "Très bel exemplaire. Almost extremely fine". 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted November 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Limes said: . I dont know if these decadrachms were from the sjeik too, but the estimates turned out okay, a bit on the low side even. I am absolutely in no way precisely knowledgeable about whose coins are whose but I think the Sheik's coins are sold under the name "A Man in Love with Art" so the above coins are not his. Eg these are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted November 14, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Deinomenid said: What's extraordinary to me is the very next lot - pictured here - sold for one sixteenth or just ~6% of the prior lots. I can't fathom that the difference is so vast. I understand that some want and can afford only the very best, price almost no object, but to see them next to each other and have such a price ratio between them is beyond me. To me that's doofus-like, although I thought that term offended some viewers and they were changing the term! It was hardly an awful coin either, especially the Arethusa side - described as "Très bel exemplaire. Almost extremely fine". I can understand the price difference. You're only getting one dolphin, vs in the second example above you get four. Dolphins are important. In the second example, the bottom dolphin has a clear "Kimon" engraved The one you mentioned has a pretty bad flan crack. The portrait is a bit off center, while it's near perfect for the other two. It's not as sharp. A lot of details are missing on the obverse and the strands of hair aren't as visible on the reverse It's hard to say, but it looks like some repairs were done around the edges Granted, as you say, this is a better coin than I'll ever have, but I can see the reasons for the price difference. Top quality coins go for exponentially more because these guys have huge egos and want to say they own the best. What I find interesting is that IMHO the one that sold for 600K is superior to that which sold for 750K. The four dolphins and "Kimon" get me. There is also the 'K' on the crown. I'm guessing what drove the first one higher is the fact that the obverse on the second is a bit off center, the details on the obverse bottom are a bit more corroded, and there's a slight gash across the face. All that being said, I still would have paid more for the second. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glebe Posted November 16, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 16, 2022 Personally I think they could all do with some cleaning - Tarnoff (sulphamic acid & thiourea) would do the trick nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted November 17, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 hours ago, Glebe said: Personally I think they could all do with some cleaning - Tarnoff (sulphamic acid & thiourea) would do the trick nicely. I wouldn't dare cleaning a 100$ coin myself, so cleaning something like the ones above, well, I don't even imagine... Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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