expat Posted May 12 · Supporter Share Posted May 12 To continue your Mothers day theme, from the children of Faustina Faustina Sr AR Denarius, RIC 361, RSC 101a, BMC 417, SEAR 4583. DIVA FAVSTINA, with elaborate hairstyle and draped bust right / AVGV-STA, Ceres standing left, long hair tied behind, raising right hand & holding long torch with left. Rome mint, A.D. 141. 3,0 g - 15 mm 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 12 · Member Author Share Posted May 12 Aaaah. David Byrne, the pioneer and perfector of elevating Autism Spectrum to an art form. YAY!!! @Sulla80, if you really are the first one to have posted any of his stuff (and this one is as paradigmatic as you can get), you deserve a medal. ...And the coin is pretty great, too! :<} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 12 · Member Author Share Posted May 12 ...Very much as an aside, it's like, then you get all those bellbottoms and big naturals. Might as well give the nostalgia a minute to itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulla80 Posted May 12 · Supporter Share Posted May 12 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JeandAcre said: Aaaah. David Byrne, the pioneer and perfector of elevating Autism Spectrum to an art form. YAY!!! @Sulla80, if you really are the first one to have posted any of his stuff (and this one is as paradigmatic as you can get), you deserve a medal. ...And the coin is pretty great, too! :<} LOL - that song is about as David Byrne as it gets 😉 Surprising that he hasn't showed up as a Talking Head before this. We did hear from Gabriel Mary Byrne a while ago. Edited May 12 by Sulla80 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted May 13 · Supporter Share Posted May 13 The captives are singing a song to try and keep their spirits up Probus AE Antoninianus. Siscia, 279 AD. IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, radiate bust left, wearing imperial mantle and holding eagle-tipped sceptre / VIRTVS PROBI AVG, trophy standing between two captives. RIC 820, Cohen 942. 22 mm, 4,87 g 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 13 · Member Author Share Posted May 13 Oh, No, @expat, my machine (still with Windows 7) isn't getting the video. But once again, I clicked on the arrow button, and found another bunch of other cool videos. Got it tabbed; hope the page keeps the same links for a minute. ...Solid antoninianus. Am I making it up, or does Probus have more than the usual number of martial reverses, even for the period? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted May 13 · Supporter Share Posted May 13 Along with the quantity of martial reverses @JeandAcre he also has a larger quantity of left facing portraits. A subject there appears to be no conclusive answer to. Sorry you are unable to hear the song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted May 21 · Member Share Posted May 21 Macedonian Kingdom, Reign of Philip V 221-179 BC AE Double Unit (26.3mm, 10.175g, 270o) O: Radiate head of Helios right. R: Winged thunderbolt; ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ / ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ, ΔΙ monogram above, AI monogram below left , P with pellet in center below right, all within oak wreath. Mamroth Bronzemünzen 24b, pl. VII, 13; SNG Alpha Bank 1110 ff. var (monograms below); SNG Cop 1258 ff. var (same); AMNG III/2 25 var (same); Sear 6795v ex Forvm Ancient Coins 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 21 · Member Author Share Posted May 21 (edited) Thanks, @Phil Anthos, for favoring this thread with what amounted to the elephant in the room,as far as George Harrison was concerned. Yes, it needed to happen. Your Macedonian AE makes me nostalgic for the little Rhodes one I had as a kid. As late as the 1st c. BCE, with Helios facing and an improbable incuse square on the reverse. (2nd edit:) And, Yep, a rose in the incuse. Nice condition, with even olive patina. It's easy to imagine your example being much more impressive in hand. ...And, for recent precedent, here's a farthing token posted in this thread back to late April. As well struck as these are, it seemed a likely guess that they were still hammered. Charles II's official London issues weren't consistently milled until after 1666 (and at least on smaller modules, some of his late hammered AR isn't bad, either). Enter this 1811 penny token, of 'Bristol and South Wales.' Another municipal issue, but verging beyond the more typical halfpenny Conder tokens of the 1790s. Along with an early-19th-century update of the ship and castle motif (even the ship's rigging is more elaborate), this one gives as much emphasis to South Wales as it does to Bristol. VIRTUTE ET INDUSTRIA (Strength and Industry). (...If anyone with any references could help out with what's happening at 12 o'clock, you would summarily have my cordial gratitude. --Anything available online? Please, Holler!) With the main motif surrounded by a garter; likely a reference to the Order of the Garter, founded by Edward III in 1348. Three plumes; the main crest of Edward the Black Prince, son of No. III. (Oh, No, Edit #3:) With his motto, "Ich dien" ('I serve.') A leading participant in the battles of Crecy (1346) and Poitiers (1356), and founding member of the Order. ...Right, and Prince of Wales. Going back to this one being milled, it seemed like a good enough pretext for some Leo Kottke. Edited May 21 by JeandAcre 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted May 21 · Member Share Posted May 21 (edited) Any pretext is good enough for Leo Kottke. 😉 Edited May 21 by Phil Anthos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 21 · Member Author Share Posted May 21 Thank you! Why it took me that long.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 21 · Member Author Share Posted May 21 On 5/13/2024 at 10:15 AM, expat said: The captives are singing a song to try and keep their spirits up Probus AE Antoninianus. Siscia, 279 AD. IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, radiate bust left, wearing imperial mantle and holding eagle-tipped sceptre / VIRTVS PROBI AVG, trophy standing between two captives. RIC 820, Cohen 942. 22 mm, 4,87 g ...Well, wait a minute, could you post who and what it is? Maybe I could find it elsewhere. (...In the hope that I was the only one this happened to in the first place.) Promising you, the eclecticism of the tunes people come up with is really mind-expanding. Right, I might be the biggest fan of my own --Um, Derivative-- thread. No one here is arguing.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted May 21 · Supporter Share Posted May 21 can you see this version @JeandAcre 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 21 · Member Author Share Posted May 21 Huge Thanks, @expat! Wow. The, can we just say, affinities between the lead vocalist's and Jim Morrison's voices never registered before. And that video is Stompin' on some stuff!!! :<} Want some full disclosure? Your initial description of the tune had me thinking of a chorus from some late-Tsarist-era opera. Watching my head do a summary 180 was fun all by itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted May 21 · Member Share Posted May 21 Thanks for the Leo Kottke @JeandAcre Pamphylia, Perge. Otacilia Severa Æ26 Obv: ΜΑΡ ⲰΤΑ ϹƐΟΥΗΡΑΝ ϹƐΒ / diademed and draped bust of Otacilia Severa, r., crescent at shoulders. Rev: ΠƐΡΓΑΙΑϹ ΑΡΤƐΜΙΔΟϹ, ΑϹΥΛΟΥ / temple with two columns enclosing cult statue of Artemis Pergaia between star and crescent; in pediment, eagle. RPC VIII, — (unassigned; ID 21051) Here's a band my mother wouldn't let me see when I was in high school. "Don't you know what a cheap trick is?" 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 22 · Member Author Share Posted May 22 (edited) Oh, nnnNo, now I like Cheap Trick more than I ever thought I would. You guys are a corrupting influence!!! (Instant edit:) And what's she doing eating the strawberry? Edited May 22 by JeandAcre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 22 · Member Author Share Posted May 22 Two examples of Hataz (Aksum /Axum, c. late 6th c.), which just might have never been posted in the same place before. Starting with the second acquisition, for the portrait rather than the legends. Unlike Munro-Hay, Hahn provides transliterations of the original Ge'ez, along with translations. All you need is the merest acquaintance with Ge'ez (and modern Amharic, and, why lie, Rasta) to get that little bit more traction from Hahn. Obv. Hataz facing; legend transliterated 'ngs Htz' ('Negus Hataz,' with the conventional Ge'ez elision of vowels; cf. Hebrew and Arabic). Rev. Cross in a diamond, with arms terminating in crosslets (as in the AR Type 137), or their approximate equivalent. ...The reverse legend is beyond me; translated 'Mercy to the people.' (Jensen/) Munro-Hay Type 141 (citing 137); Hahn (citing both types), nos. 502-7. Some vintage Burning Spear. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted May 22 · Member Share Posted May 22 (edited) M. Sergius Silus 116-115 BC AR Denarius (17mm, 3.76g) O: Helmeted head of Roma right; ROMA and * behind, EX.S.C before. R: Horseman galloping left, holding sword and severed head of Barbarian; Q in field, M SERGI below, SILVS in ex. Crawford 286-1; Sydenham 534; RSC Sergia 1; BMC Italy 517 ex Francis J. Rath Edited May 22 by Phil Anthos 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 22 · Member Author Share Posted May 22 Quint-Essential Gentle Giant! YAY! ...But, Oh No, where's the coin? Looking forward to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted May 22 · Member Share Posted May 22 Oops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 22 · Member Author Share Posted May 22 (edited) Sustained, commiserative chuckling ensues. ...I could be making this up, and couldn't begin to cite Gallic coins to either side of the chronology, but somewhere I got the notion that the hair style on the severed head amounted to a Roman stereotype for Gauls. (Instant edit:) ...Or are the wild locks below the head supposed to be blood issuing from the neck? (Another one: Had to hear the tune again. Say whatever you want, but after Gentle Giant, you won't hear anything like them again.) Edited May 22 by JeandAcre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted May 22 · Member Share Posted May 22 27 minutes ago, JeandAcre said: Sustained, commiserative chuckling ensues. ...I could be making this up, and couldn't begin to cite Gallic coins to either side of the chronology, but somewhere I got the notion that the hair style on the severed head amounted to a Roman stereotype for Gauls. (Instant edit:) ...Or are the wild locks below the head supposed to be blood issuing from the neck? (Another one: Had to hear the tune again. Say whatever you want, but after Gentle Giant, you won't hear anything like them again.) Amen. Five guys, 30 different instruments! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted May 23 · Member Share Posted May 23 Phrygia, Cotiaeum. Philip I AE26 Kyble. C. Julius Ponticus, Archiereus Phrigia, Cotiaeum. Between 244 and 249 Obverse. M IOYLIOS P'ILIPPOS AYG Reverse. EPI G IOYL PONTIKOY ARC'IER EWS KOTIAEWN Kyble on stool being pulled by biga of lions. Polos / Tympanon SNG AUL 3787(1). BMC 17 S174,78(2) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted May 23 · Member Share Posted May 23 Caria, Trapezopolis. AE24. Demos/Aphrodite Obv: ΔΗΜΟϹ ΤΡΑΠƐΖΟΠΟ (Ζ reversed) / Laureate head of the Demos (youthful), r. Rev: ƐΠΙ ΑΡ ΑΙ ΑΠΟΛΛΩΝΙΟV / Aphrodite standing, facing, head, r., resting arm on short column, holding apple. Ai. Apollonios (archon) c. 150-200 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted May 23 · Member Author Share Posted May 23 @AncientOne, this thread is expanding my horizons left and right. For one, it's finally starting to register why so many people are so engaged with Roman provincial issues ...along with the added interest of the later ones, like this. And, Dang, I doubt I even knew Sniff 'n' the Tears did this. Knew the name, and the tune; might never have put them together. But during my first undergrad years (majoring in Philosophy and frankly lousy Mexican), this was getting plenty of airplay on American top 40 radio (before the genre effectively went extinct). I'd completely forgotten how much I liked it then, even prearticulately. (I was already gravitating to blues, blues-rock (you can include Hendrix) and reggae. And the budget for lps, even used, was pretty minimal.) ...Thanks forthe reminder of how good this is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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