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Marsyas Mike

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  1. Wow! This is an astonishing analysis of my little coin - I'm dazzled. These Provincials often confuse me as I don't have much of a library (Varbanov) so I rely on online auctions, Wildwinds, etc. to kind of triangulate my attributions. Thank you so much @Marcusfor taking the time to fine-tune my iffy attribution. I have but one complaint - how in the world will I fit all that information on a 2" x 2" flip? 😁 Thanks again!
  2. Very interesting post, @Roman Collector. I know a lot more about Trajanopolis than I did before I read it. My only coin from this place came my way recently via eBay - a terrific seller included it for free in a small lot purchase I made. Some people are wonderful, aren't they? Caracalla Æ 16 (c. 198-217 A.D.) Trajanopolis, Thrace AVT K M AVP C[E ANTΩN]EINOC, laureate draped and cuirassed bust right / TPAIANOΠOΛEITΩ[N], garlanded flaming altar. Varbanov 2764-2767; Moushmov 5026. (2.09 grams / 16 x 15 mm) eBay Jan. 2024 Lot @ Free Attribution Notes: Laureate bust, probably. Auctions and other sources are wobbly: Corpus Nummorum: Varbanov 2764-2766 Wildwinds: Varbanov 2767; Moushmov 5026. Hourmo.eu: Varbanov 2767; Moushmov 5026. FOVRM: Varbanov 2766
  3. Here's one issued for Nero I posted a while back Nero Æ 19 Magistrate Gaius Iulius Polyaenus (duovir) Sicyon, Achaea (c. 67 A.D.) See notes. ΝΕ ΚΑΙ ΖΕΥϹ ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΟϹ laureate head right / ΕΠΙ Γ ΙΟΥ ΠΟΛΥΑΙΝΟΥ, ΔΑ-ϹΙ across fields, naked figure wearing cloak standing right. (7.68 grams / 19 x 18 mm) eBay May 2023 $25.00 B.O. Note: RPC I 1242; no other references. Found only 3 of these, all on RPC. Die-Match Obv. & Rev.: Coin no. 1 of RPC I 1242 Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris Inventory No. 665 Coin no. 2 of RPC I 1242 British Museum Inventory No. 1895,0703.9 Die-Match Obv.: Coins 1-4 of RPC I 1240 (horseman rev.) Note: Reverse legend starts at right, under figure's hand (ΕΠΙ), and runs clockwise to head (NOY). Note: "The grant of freedom to Greece at Corinth in 67 is for the most part referred to by naming Zeus Eleutherios in a legend or depicting him....In addition, on all Neronian types of Sicyon the emperor was associated with Zeus Eleutherios by means of the legend NE(ron) K(aisar) ZEUS ELEUTHERIOS." E. Manders & D. Slootjes Here is Hadrian "restoring" Achaea on a sestertius: Hadrian Æ Sestertius (134-138 A.D.) Rome Mint [HADR]IANVS AVG COS III PP laureate, draped bust right / [RESTITVTO]RI ACH[AIAE], Hadrian, togate, standing left, raising up kneeling Achaea; vase with palm between figures. RIC 938; Cohen 1216. (26.17 grams / 31 mm) eBay Nov. 2018
  4. I had no idea this "pacified Province of Dacia" type existed - thank you for the explanation @ambr0zie. Just yesterday I got the sestertius version - it is catastrophically worn, but it was cheap and the type is indeed interesting: This comes in a draped-shoulder version (RIC 621) and bust with aegis (RIC 622). I think mine is the aegis type - those are snakes, I think: Detail:
  5. My most recent Septimius Severus is this sestertius, which kind of baffles me (recent post on my bafflement here): Septimius Severus Æ Sestertius (196 A.D.) Rome Mint L SEPT SEV PE[RT AVG IMP VIII], laureate head right / SECV[RITAS PVBLICA] | SC in exergue | EC and S in field r. (from double-strike/strike-over), Securitas seated r. holding globe RIC IV 729a; Cohen RSC 649. (20.59 grams / 28 x 26 mm) eBay Jan. 2024 Notes: Cuirassed type scarce; no examples of head-only type in OCRE or BM; found only one other head-only, not a die-match, w. slight drapery (but no cuirass): MA-Shops MA-ID: 828500960 Münzhandlung André Cichos Weight: 16.28 g Diameter: 26.00 mm RIC 729, C.649 Selten! (Rare!) Note: Reverse flip-over double strike or struck over another type? Knee, arm and globe repeated at back of throne, as is EC of inscription. Extra S in field behind throne may indicate this was struck over other coin? Obverse has faint doubling on beard at chin. My most recent Julia Domna is also a sestertius - it has the reverse in the accusative case IVNONEM - there is an academic article devoted to why this may be the "case" (ha ha ha - see below) 😁: Julia Domna Æ Sestertius (211-217 / 211-215 A.D.) Rome Mint IVLIA PIA FELIX AVG, draped bust right / I[VN]ONEM, S-C, Juno standing left, holding patera and sceptre; at feet, left, peacock RIC IV Caracalla 585b; BMCRE (Caracalla) 210; Cohen RSC 90. (17.32 grams / 29 x 27 mm) eBay Jan. 2024 Note: Dates, emission info: RIC/OCRE/BM: 211-217 A.D. CNG: 211-215 A.D. Die-Match Obverse: American Numismatic Society Identifier: 1944.100.51365 (OCRE example) Roma Numismatics Limited E-Live Auction 1; Lot 697; 25.07.2018 Note: "CEREREM and IVNONEM. Why the Accusative Case? Two Rare Reverse Legends..." ...In summary, Julia Domna’s coins with the accusatives...IVNONEM (sestertius RIC IV Caracalla 585)... are the first Roman imperial coins in which this grammatical case indicates the fact of consecration of a statue of a god or goddess....these reverses suggest that they possibly present an iconography of real statues..." B. Awianowicz https://www.academia.edu/48992090/CEREREM_and_IVNONEM_Why_the_Accusative_Case_Two_Rare_Reverse_Legends_on_Coins_of_Julia_D…
  6. This one's a hot mess: Barbarous Radiate Æ Antoninianus Gaul / Northern Europe (c. 274-300s A.D.) V I S A (?), cuirassed and radiate bust right (Tetricus?) / APTE retrograde C, unidentified goddess standing (reverse double-struck). (0.84 grams / 16 mm) eBay June 2018 $2.75
  7. Very interesting suggestion, RC. I hadn't been thinking earlier issues, but it makes sense - thank you.
  8. A new Septimius Severus sestertius (say that 3 times fast) recently came my way and I was hoping for a little help with it. First off, I can't find another example of it - OCRE has one noted, but no examples. It is RIC IV 729a, with laureate head (no drapery or cuirass) right and Securitas seated left. numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.4.ss.729a The closest I came is an MAShops (Münzhandlung André Cichos) example. This one has a loop of "slight drapery" so it is not really a "head only" type. https://www.ma-shops.com/cichos/item.php?id=8285 The only other "head only" type I found was an unlisted dupondius (radiate crown): https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1757089 This type with a draped and cuirassed bust is RIC IV 729c is described by OCRE as laureate, draped and "sometimes cuirassed." This draped and cuirassed type is scarce too - OCRE has none, but I found a couple online, auctions, etc. Here is one at Marc Breitsprecher's site: https://mrbcoins.com/cgi-bin/lotinfo.pl?id=56935 Here is the British Museum example: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_R-15750 Here is mine - head only (20.59 grams / 28 mm): My question has to do with the reverse. What is going on here? At first I thought it was a a strike-over or double-strike from the same dies. But what is that S doing in the field? The "original" coin clearly has the SC in the exergue. (Note some of the cuirassed types have the SC in the fields, not exergue - see Breitsprecher example above). Also, Severus's beard on the obverse is faintly doubled. More photos: So is this struck over another type altogether? Something like this happening on Postumus sestertii I've seen, but does this happen on Severan sestertii? Any clarifications greatly appreciated. And if there are any other SS Securitas seated sestertii out there, I'd love to see another one.
  9. Similar to the lovely Danish and Brunswick gold posted by @panzerman Prussia also featured a couple of rather relaxed Wildmen leaning against the coat of arms on this Napoleonic-era thaler. Sorry for the lousy photo, but I haven't seen the sun in well over a week and my photos just don't work at all in cloudy weather. Hope that's not poison ivy those guys are wearing!
  10. Terrific coin and write-up @DonnaML. It so happens I too recently caught Wildman fever (er, I guess you could call it that?)when a $7.50 "deal" came my way on eBay - probably too much given the hole. But I used to have a thaler, but I sold it years ago and I regret it now, so this is my only Wildman (future George III, though he didn't put his name on cruddy little coppers). I really like the various renditions of the Wildman on these coins - yours seems wilder than mine because of the stance and despite the Christmas wreath loin cloth. Mine seems a bit more relaxed: Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg-Hannover Pfennig 1794 Wildman standing facing, holding tree, P.L.M in exergue / 1 | PFENN | SCHEIDE | MÜNTZ . | 1794 KM 330.3. (3.34 gram / 20.5 mm) eBay Sep. 2023 Thanks for giving me an excuse to post this!
  11. It's very nice to see a date run of a single emperor/reverse type like this @maridvnvm. It inspired me to look for Probus Egyptian eagles in my own collection - I had more than I thought: L-H Milne 4655; Emmett 3984 (8) R2;. Curtis -. L-Є Milne 4610; Dattari 5553; Emmett 3984-5. L-Z Milne 4640; Dattari 5555; Emmett 3984. L-Δ Milne 4587; BMC 2440.
  12. Thanks for sharing that, @Roman Collector. I immediately looked for my avatar, but @antwerpen2306 got there first (and with a very nice example, I must say). It's at 2:02 in the video. I really like the Marsyas type, and the gruesome legend that goes with it. Here are mine:
  13. Great FF as always @Roman Collector. Here's mine: Faustina II Denarius (January-August 156 A.D.) Rome Mint FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AV[G P]II F, bare-headed and draped bust right / PVDICITIA, Pudicitia standing left, sacrificing over lit altar to left. RIC III Antoninus Pius 508a; BMCRE 1092; Cohen 184. (3.20 grams / 18 x 16 mm) eBay Apr. 2022 Notes: "In January AD 156, the FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F legend was introduced...The filiation AVGVSTI PII FIL...was moved to the reverse of her coins about August 156, two-thirds of the way through Antoninus' TR P XIX... indicating that the type was issued as late as August of that year...I therefore date these coins to January-August AD 156. Roman Collector, NF Oct. 2022
  14. Very interesting countermark @Broucheion. I have one for Heraclius, same general area, but different - @Curtis JJ already linked the Schulze article: Byzantine Empire Æ Follis Heraclius (c. 633-636 A.D.) cm on Tib. II Con. (578-582 A.D.) Nikomedia / Palestine Mint Host coin: DM T[Ib CONSTANTS PP], crowned facing bust cruciger & shield / M, ANNO left, cross above, IIII [date] right, B below; NIK[O] in exergue. SB 440, DOC 27b. (?) (11.86 grams / 31 x 27 mm) eBay Sep. 2019 (Israel) Countermark: HRC cruciform monogram in 9 mm circle. Schulze HCM type 1b "Heraclian countermarks on Byzantine copper coins in seventh-century Syria" by Wolfgang Schulze, Ingrid Schulze and Wolfgang Leimenstoll discusses finds near Caesarea Maritima, where this example was found, and concludes, "During the military conflict between the Byzantine Empire and the Muslim Arabs in Syria in the years 633-36 Byzantine coins were countermarked by the Byzantine military with a Heraclius monogram. Countermarking most probably was exercised predominantly in Palestine I and was carried out to revalue the few circulating copper coins in order to remedy the general supply gap and disastrous shortage of cash." Here's the countermark with some enhancements:
  15. Duplicates! Oh yeah, I buy duplicates. Just in this week, my third Gordian III antoninianus with FORTVNA REDVX on the reverse, minted in Antioch. It's the portraits that get me - with ancients (unlike Jefferson nickels) you get different artwork with each one. My new one (which to my surprise weighs 5.2 grams, quite heavy for the type): Two others, same old same old:
  16. Interesting write-up and coin @expat - those were troubled times indeed. A Valerian II came my way in an undescribed eBay lot recently, in a flip that said "Valerian" only Faithfulness of the army - ha! I had the usual difficult time with Valerian-Gallienus era attributions - the mint locations wobble all over Europe and Asia Minor: Valerian II Antoninianus (c. 254-258 A.D.) Samosata (Antioch RIC) Mint VALERIANVS NOBIL CAES, radiate, draped bust right / FIDES MILITVM, Aquila between two signa; at base, crossed shields. RIC V Valerian II 46; Göbl MIR 1692b; Cohen 24. (3.64 grams / 22 x 20 mm) eBay Nov. 2023 Lot @ $3.89 Mint and Dates: OCRE: Antioch, 254-255 A.D. CNG: Samosata, 1st emission 255-256 A.D. (MIR 1692; all others 1692b) Leu, Heritage, etc.: Samosata; 256-258 A.D.
  17. Great coins in this post. I really like Valerian's coins - so many types, such an interesting, tragic history. Here's a recent Provincial I got - the portrait is charming, I think, if looking nothing like he usually does on the Imperial types: Valerian I Æ 22 Antioch, Pisidia (c. 253-260 A.D.) IMP C P LICINNIVS VALERIANVS AV, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / ANTIOC CHLCO, vexillum surmounted by eagle between two standards | SR in exergue. RPC X (unassigned; ID 63326); (5.44 grams / 22 mm) eBay Dec. 2023 $9.99 Attribution and Note (RPC): RPC: Krzyżanowska I/Vol. 12, Emil 4, 1-5 and var. rev. Note: Krzyżanowska recorded 5 rev. dies, one shared with Volusian and one with Aemilian Numismatik Naumann Cf. SNG France 1314... Provenance: Littleton Coin Co. generic "Valerian I (A. D. 253-260) Provincial Bronze Coin of Ancient Rome" Die-Match Obverse: RPC X (unassigned ID 63326); Numismatik Naumann Auction 46; Lot 426; 11.09.2016 RPC X (unassigned ID 63326); Peus 369; Lot 1358; 31.11.2001 RPC X (unassigned ID 63326); American Numismatic Society Inventory No. 1944.100.51116 RPC X (unassigned ID 63326); Leeds University Library Inventory No. 907
  18. Prussia issued a Franco-Prussian War commemorative thaler in 1871. Called a "Siegestaler" it has a mintage of 800,000 (sieges is German for "victory.") The lady on the reverse is "Borussia (female personification of Prussia)" according to Numista. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15907.html The mintage isn't as huge as some Prussian thalers of the era, but they are still very common - like Columbian and Kennedy half dollers, etc., people probably hoarded them, vaguely thinking they might be valuable. A few years later (1875-1918) the German Reich went to a Marks denomination - the 3 marks silver coin being the equivalent of the old verinsthaler (I read somewhere once that Germans referred to the new 3 mark coins as "thalers" for years). These "siegestalers" also circulated, as you can see from my worn example - I'm sure somebody out there has a better one.
  19. Great post, informative and attractive examples. Here's a pair from Septimius Severus, both with bound captives, only one with a trophy:
  20. Great coin and write-up about the Paris Commune, @robinjojo. That "trident" type five francs is something I'd like to luck into someday. Until then, I do have an array of the 5-francs types issued in 1870 - first the best of the lot, a Hercules type issued by the Government of National Defense: "FRANCE, Gouvernement de Défense Nationale (1870-1871), AR 5 francs, 1870 A, Paris. Type Hercule. Beau à Très Beau. (France, government of National Defense (1870-71), silver five francs of 1870, Paris mint, Hercules type. Fine to very fine.)" From the old CoinFactsWiki site (unfortunately defunct nowadays) Here is that one with three others from 1870 (but no trident, alas): "The Paris mint issued four types of five francs in 1870, reflecting the political chaos; first the Napoleon III "laureate head," then the Cérès head, without reverse legend, then Cérès head, with the reverse legend and finally the Hercules type, which was used until the five francs was terminated in 1878. Recorded mintage: 1,185,100 (with and without legend) plus 335,609 (Hercules) plus 6,246,264 (Napoleon III)" (Again, CoinFactsWiki, broken link) You might've noticed I cheated a little - the Cérès head without legend has a K mintmark, not A for Paris. Off the numismatic track, another obtainable relic from that era is the huge French Model 1866 "Chassepot" Yataghan Sword Bayonet which was used by the French during the Franco-Prussian War. These are terrifyingly long, and marked with the arsenal and date of manufacture (just like a coin, sorta). Here's mine from 1866 - maybe it was "repurposed" by the Commune? Or by a Prussian hussar? Where ever it's been, it is a real pig-sticker! "This is the most widely copied of all the sword bayonets. Many countries - including the United States, Egypt, Belgium, and Argentina - have manufactured or used very similar bayonets. The French model was designed to fit on the French Model 1866 Chassepot Rifled Infantry Musket (the musket was revolutionary in itself). It was manufactured from 1866 to about 1874 and was replaced by the French Model 1874 "Gras" Bayonet. This bayonet is brass-hilted with a spring steel latching arrangement on the right side. The crossguard is iron (steel) and has a screw-type tightening arrangement on the muzzle-ring. The lower quillon is a hooked "blade-breaker" type. The blade is steel, single-edged, fullered (both sides), with a re-curved or "yataghan-shape." The blades are usually marked on the back-edge (opposite the cutting edge) with the arsenal, month, and year of manufacture; this is done in engraved cursive fashion and will appear something like, "Mre d' Armes de Chatellerault Janvier 1866" or perhaps "Mre d' Armes de St. Etienne 8bre [October] 1868". Contrary to novice speculation, these inscriptions are not the name of a lieutenant or major, nor is it a presentation date. Additionally, these were not used during the American Civil War. Arsenals encountered may be such as Chatellerault, Mutzig, St. Etienne, Paris-Oudry, Tulle, and perhaps Steyr (not confirmed on the 1866). There are numerous variations of this bayonet and they were produced in the many-many thousands. The scabbards are usually blued sheet-rolled steel with a ball finial." http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/fren1866.htm
  21. Nice FF as always @Roman Collector. I seem to have missed this one first time around. My Faustina II Pudicitia in silver is a later type with different legends and an altar - dating and related notes courtesy of one of your other Faustina posts: Faustina II Denarius (January-August 156 A.D.) Rome Mint FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AV[G P]II F, bare-headed and draped bust right / PVDICITIA, Pudicitia standing left, sacrificing over lit altar to left. RIC III Antoninus Pius 508a; BMCRE 1092; Cohen 184. (3.20 grams / 18 x 16 mm) eBay Apr. 2022 Notes: "In January AD 156, the FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F legend was introduced...The filiation AVGVSTI PII FIL...was moved to the reverse of her coins about August 156, two-thirds of the way through Antoninus' TR P XIX... indicating that the type was issued as late as August of that year...I therefore date these coins to January-August AD 156. Roman Collector, NF Oct. 2022
  22. I too only have a Caligula portrait on a Provincial, and it is does not particularly look like him - vaguely Julio-Claudian, but without any Caligulian malice: Caligula Æ 15 Magistrate Kleandros Philokaisar Philadelphia, Lydia (37-41 A.D.) ΓΑΙΟϹ ΚΑΙϹΑΡ; bare headright / ΦΙΛΟΚΑΙϹΑ[Ρ ΦΙΛΑΔƐ]ΛΦƐ[WΝ ΚΛƐΑΝ-ΔΡΟϹ], capricorn left with cornucopia on its back, [ΠΑ]Ε (?) monogram in left field. RPC I 3028; LS 118, no. 18 cf. SNG von Aulock 3072 (4.15 grams / 15 x 14 mm) eBay May 2023 The magistrate's unusual title, Philokaisar, literally translates, "friend of the emperor"... In 17, the city suffered severely from an earthquake, and Tiberius relieved it of having to pay taxes...Evidence from coinage reveals that Caligula also helped the city." FORVM Die-Match Characteristics: Obv: P at tip of nose, etc. Rev: Top leg curved. Die-Match Obv. & Rev.: Coin no. 11 of RPC I 3028 H.I. Coll. DEMOS Auction 10; Lot 484; 14.05.2022
  23. Some fantastic provenances in this thread for sure. My eBay purchases generally don't come with a lot of background to them, but this one was kind of interesting. No plates, but a fraternity gift letter from the 1950s: Calabria, Tarentum AR Nomos ΛYKΩN Magistrate (c. 280-272 B.C.) Helmeted, nude warrior on horse right, spearing, crowned by Nike flying left, ΣI behind, ΛYKΩN under horse / Taras astride dolphin left, holding kantharos and trident, GU in right field. Vlasto 730; SNG ANS 1096. (6.18 grams / 19 mm) Provenance: Presented as gift to (Army) Chaplain Luther W. Evans for naming Tau Kappa Epsilon Fraternity magazine The Tidewater-Blue Ridge Teke in 1958 (see letter from Harry Donnelly and Sept. 1958 article in The Tidewater-Blue Ridge Teke, page 3)
  24. Thank you so much @seth77 @Roman Collector @Al Kowsky for the clarifications, additional information and encouragement. This is the kind of detail I was hoping to find - thanks again @seth77. Severan titular stuff is definitely something I need to learn more about. My knowledge about Provincials could at best be described as fledgling - my bewilderment over that CAR for example - I'm so used to seeing the "KAI" abbreviation on these the CAP threw me for a loop (thanks again @Roman Collector). I was starting to suspect the same thing - I think Pautalia was a fairly robust coin-issuing entity but this obverse bust just isn't turning up very often. The lot this came in consisted of two coins - barely a "lot" - but the seller threw in a cute little Caracalla from Trajanopolis as a freebie (I really, really like this seller). The other coin in the purchase is also from Thrace and also apparently fairly scarce. Thanks to finding a die-match in Corpus Nummorum, it wasn't nearly as difficult to attribute since I could just use the CN example. Here it is: Septimius Severus Æ 27 Hadrianopolis, Thrace (c. 193-211 A.D.) ΑV Κ Λ ϹΕΠΤΙ ϹΕVΗ[ΡΟϹΠ], laureate head right / ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΙΤΩΝ, Hermes, nude standing left, holding purse and caduceus; at his feet, ram. Jurukova 207; Varbanov 3374; Corpus Nummorum type 5927. (11.25 grams / 27 x 26 mm) eBay Jan. 2024 Die-Match Obverse and Reverse: Corpus Nummorum type 5927; Jurukova p. 152, nr. 207; Varbanov p. 278, nr. 3374 Similar Type: CNG E-Auction 323; Lot 212; 26.03.2014 has cuirassed bust with possible hegemon name T. S. Barbarus (196-198 A.D.) Here is mine again with the CN example obverse-reverse die-match - this is the only other example anywhere I could find: https://www.corpus-nummorum.eu/types/5927
  25. Well, this one made my head spin and this post might be a bit granular for general interest, but I'm locked down in a "polar vortex" with slippery sidewalks to boot, so I'm going to share today's adventure in ancient coin attribution sleuthing. From an un-attributed lot from eBay came this big low-grade Æ from Pautalia issued for Caracalla. It has some issues, as you can see (har), but although I was able to find three obverse die-matches, I could not find a reverse type to match this one, which is where the journey begins. Here's my coin (13.83 grams / 27 x 26 mm): *** As usual I started digging around the Internet, acsearch, etc. to try and figure it out. I was fairly certain it was Caracalla - what I found a little peculiar was the CAP part of the inscription - does anybody knows what that stands for? Surely not CARacalla - as that was a nickname and not found on coins. Anyway, after digging, I found no matches to the reverse type - but several obverse die-matches. My primary source was a post on FORVM by member archivum, who had a similar attribution to mine, same obverse die, but a reverse figure he couldn't figure out. "Caracalla, Pautalia, Thrace, magistr. Sicinnius Clarus, AE 27, 13,72g, Laur. cuir. bust r. / ? standing nude l. with staff, chlamys draped on l. arm. Though this coin's reverse legend is lost, it is clearly from the same obverse die as scarce Sicinnius Clarus issues Varbanov 4956-4957 (coins pictured below). The staff actually looks like a trident, but this is an untypical pose for Poseidon, and Pautalia had no marine access; the figure may also be wearing a Phrygian cap. Any theories on whom this reverse represents?" https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=111264.0 In his query, "archivum" helpfully posted three obverse die-matches to his coin, with Asclepius and Homonoia reverses. He also guided me in the right direction with the hegemon, Sicinnius Clarus - whose name is visible (mostly) on mine (more about him below). Another FORVM member ("clueless") posted one with what looks like Athena on the reverse, but had no idea what it was. All of these obverse die-match mine. Here they are (less the Homonoia types - which see below): mine; Asclepius; Minerva/Athena?; Neptune?: *** The FORVM query also included one with a Homonoia reverse. After doing some more digging, I tracked down the Homonoia reverse, which came from a CNG auction which was a Varbanov plate coin: "–; Varbanov 4957 corr. (this coin illustrated); Mouchmov 4247." This in turn seems to be the example coin in Wildwinds - rather confusingly, the Varbanov number changed between CNG/Wildwinds, despite being the same coin. Classical Numismatic Group, Inc. (same coin as Wildwinds) Electronic Auction 344; Lot 265; 12.02.2015 THRACE, Pautalia. Caracalla. AD 198-217. Æ (27mm, 16.77 g, 7h). C. Sicinius Clarus, hegemon. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Homonoia standing left, holding cornucopia and sacrificing with patera over lighted and garlanded altar to left. SNG Copenhagen –; Varbanov 4957 corr. (this coin illustrated); Mouchmov 4247. Good VF, green-brown patina, minor roughness on the reverse. From the Dr. George Spradling Collection. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3318281 Wildwinds (same coin as CNG) Caracalla, AE28 of Pautalia, Thrace. (AY KA)ICAP ANTWNINOC, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right / HG (CIKIN KLA)POU OUL PAUTALIAC, Homonoia standing left by altar, holding patera and cornucopiae. Varbanov 4940 var (legends); Moushmov 4247. ebay sale 1999 https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/thrace/pautalia/t.html and https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/caracalla/_pautalia_Moushmov_4247.txt On acsearch I also found another obverse die-match with Homonoia reverse: Münzen & Medaillen GmbH (DE) Auction 15; Lot 161; 21.10.2004 Description SLG. J. - P. RIGHETTI, TEIL IV THRAKIEN PAUTALIA. No.: 161 Schätzpreis/Estimate: EUR 75.- d=27 mm Caracalla, 197 - 217. Bronze des Q. Sicinius Clarus, 202 - 205. Drap., gep. Büste mit L. n. r. Rv. OULPIAC PA YTALIAC HG CIKINIOU KLAROU Homonoia im langen Gewand frontal stehend, Kopf mit Kalathos n. l., in der Linken Füllhorn haltend, mit Patera in der Rechten über einem Rundaltar zu ihren Füssen opfernd. 14,80 g. Ruzicka, P. 139, 521var. (Variante der Av. - Legende). Selten. Dunkelbraune Patina. Knapp sehr schön https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=194364 The Münzen & Medaillen GmbH (DE) coin is also on a FORVM member's gallery (rennrad12020) here: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3126&pid=60093 Here are photos of all the Homonoia reverses with obverse die-matches; the CNG/Wildwind example is shown three times because one of them had Varbanov notes, and the Wildwinds coin, though the same as the CNG/Varbanov example, has a very different color, but I am pretty sure it is the CNG example. The bottom coin is from the Münzen & Medaillen auction (FORVM rennrad12020 not shown): *** So what (who) is that reverse type? Here is a photo with my "enhancements" showing what I can make out - a figure standing left, holding a sceptre (not a cornucopiae as Homonoia does in the die-matches), altar at left. Here is the reverse on mine, with some "enhancements" I made showing what of the reverse figure I can make out. Note that the bronze disease'd area has been cleaned up since this photo was taken: These characteristics generally match one from Pautalia issued for Commodus that I found, with Hera on the reverse: THRACE. Pautalia. Commodus, 177-192. Pentassarion (Bronze, 29 mm, 16.16 g, 12 h), struck under the legate Caecilius Maternus. ΑVΤ ΚΑΙ ΜΑΡ ΑYΡ ΚΟΜΟΔΟC Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Commodus to right. Rev. ΗΓΕ ΚΑΙ ΜΑΤΕΡΝΟY ΟYΛΠΙΑC ΠΑYΤΑΛΙΑC Hera standing left, holding patera in right hand over altar at her feet to left, and long scepter in left. RPC IV.1 Online, 8864 (temporary). Ruzicka 190. Very rare - only one specimen noted in RPC Online. Of fine style and with a green patina with earthen highlights. Very fine. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8070464 So Hera seems to be a good guess, if not fer sure. *** And now for some information on the guy whose name is on the reverse of these coins, Quintus Sicinnius Clarus. As it turns out there is an article on the guy on Bulgarian Wikipedia (you got to love the Internet, really). Here it is in the English translation: "Quintus Sicinnius Clarus (in Latin : Quintus Sicinnius Clarus , in Greek : Κόϊντος Σικίνννιος Κλᾶρος) was a Roman governor of the province of Thrace ( legatus Augusti pro praetore Thraciae ) at the time of Augustus Septimius Severus in the period 201-204 . He came from the noble Roman family of Sicinius He participated in the issuing of coin issues through the city government of Hadrianopole (now Edirne ), Augusta Traiana (now Stara Zagora ), Pautalia (now Kyustendil ) and probably Anchialo (now Pomorie ). Clarus is the last governor of Thrace whose name appears on the coins of the city governments of the province. Participated in welcoming the imperial family to the province in 202 on his return from Antioch to Rome. He organized the founding of the Emporium Pizos marketplace near the present-day village of Dimitrievo in 202." https://bg-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Квинт_Сикиний_Клар?_x_tr_sl=bg&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Квинт_Сикиний_Клар This really cool broken inscription in Greek is part of the article: Also, I found an old Harlan J. Berk auction on Internet Archives with additional information, which I think references the inscription above: "Full text of "Harlan J. Berk, Ltd. 181st Buy or Bid Sale" An inscription proves that Sicinnius Clarus was governor of Thrace during the consulship of Septimius and Caracalla, i.e. in 202 AD. Coins of Plautilla naming Clarus at several mints prove a similar date: Clarus’ governorship must have overlapped with Plautilla’s years as Augusta, between her engagement and marriage in 202 and her fall and exile early in 205." https://archive.org/stream/harlanjberkltd180181harl/harlanjberkltd180181harl_djvu.txt The full text of the inscription came up in a Google Books result, but I'll spare you the details. *** Whew. That was exhausting. But fun too (for me anyway). So as far as I can tell, my new coin is unpublished/unlisted, but of course there are probably some others floating around out there. In any case, this obverse die was used for a variety of reverse types, apparently, none of them common (the Homonoia is the only type I could find with more than a single example). A special issue? The portrait is rendered in a fine style, finer than the typical Provincial of the era, I think. If anybody has any ideas on this reverse type, or what CAP means in the obverse legend, or anything else about Sicinnius Clarus, I'd be thrilled to hear them. Feel free to share mystery coins, stuff from Thrace issued by Sicinnius Clarus etc.
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